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Rcn union to strike first time in their 106 year history, my wife has sent hers in for unison to strike
Rcn union to strike first time in their 106 year history, my wife has sent hers in for unison to strike
Bloody extremists.!!Meanwhile, in Scotland.
That's big. Have we got dates yet?
Worrying though isn't it, that we get to this point.Not sure as it didn’t say.
My wife has just messaged me delighted saying it’s great news.
Such a big statement about the state of the country. I’m old enough to remember the 70’s and how bad that was but the nurses didn’t strike even then.Rcn union to strike first time in their 106 year history, my wife has sent hers in for unison to strike
Such a big statement about the state of the country. I’m old enough to remember the 70’s and how bad that was but the nurses didn’t strike even then.
Worrying though isn't it, that we get to this point.
Worrying for those of us who have people in that care system who depend on nurses, too. To be clear, I'm not suggesting they're wrong to strike etc. just that it's worrying!
Very selfish. Did she not see Tory MP’s clap for them on their doorsteps?My wife has been a nurse for 20 years and at the start said she would never strike but after years of people taking the piss on wages she has changed. Even her pension which was final salary got taken away and we looked back at an old wage slip and her pension contributions were 4% they are now over 9%.
Unfortunately I can't see a way around that, though. As it is, the NHS needs more staff (my Mum was stuck in an ambulance outside casualty for half a day the other week). By definition withdrawing needed labour will cause issues.They will strike but won’t take risks with patient care.
Unfortunately I can't see a way around that, though. As it is, the NHS needs more staff (my Mum was stuck in an ambulance outside casualty for half a day the other week). By definition withdrawing needed labour will cause issues.
Again, I don't blame nurses for that.
Unfortunately I can't see a way around that, though. As it is, the NHS needs more staff (my Mum was stuck in an ambulance outside casualty for half a day the other week). By definition withdrawing needed labour will cause issues.
Again, I don't blame nurses for that.
So probably only a few days from the govt blaming them for the entire health care crisis and endangering lives with their excessive demands.Rcn union to strike first time in their 106 year history, my wife has sent hers in for unison to strike
Rcn union to strike first time in their 106 year history, my wife has sent hers in for unison to strike
Not all over the country, just in the districts where turnout met the threshold. Teachers' strike ballot not doing great on turnout so far, but a long way to go till the deadline.
Interesting time to be a union rep
Saw that a bit later but still a lot of areas.
Crazy that people are not voting either way and then those people will be the first to moan if it doesn’t go their way.
Exhibit Z of Lindsay Hoyle being pointless
Tory MP criticised after using 'outdated' racial slur in Commons (msn.com)
Most don’t realise how tight the anti union laws are. The ballot has to be postal and even if you win, the turnout has to be at least 50%. If we held local elections to the same standard even with ballot stations most councillors wouldn’t get elected.
If you jump through those hoops and get enough numbers, you then have to give 2 weeks notice of strike days and only 6 union members are allowed to be on the picket at once. Yet the Tories want to go even further than these rules to the point where striking would practically be illegal in all but name
What’s the picket line bit about? Seems randomly arbitrary. Not that it all isn’t but that in particular. How do they even police that?
Two reasons, firstly to make it look weaker and secondly to prevent harassment of strike breakers. Which as Mick Lynch said before is nonsense as all you do is ask the strike breaker not to cross but if they do then you let them through.
In practice the other unions in a given area will send their members as ‘bystanders’ to boost the numbers on the picket and show support. I went to a few RMT pickets in that capacity in the summer. If you try to break the rules there are inspectors and of course anyone in the general public who can report it to police and your picket is shut down.
When you look at how far the law goes on this and other union issues you can really see how cynical the Conservatives are about the rights of the working people they claim to champion.
Sunak in PMQs claiming the Tories are on the side of working people because Labour support strikes was certainly a take.
As someone currently between jobs, I'd happily be a civilian bystander on an RCN picket line, if I was welcome.Two reasons, firstly to make it look weaker and secondly to prevent harassment of strike breakers. Which as Mick Lynch said before is nonsense as all you do is ask the strike breaker not to cross but if they do then you let them through.
In practice the other unions in a given area will send their members as ‘bystanders’ to boost the numbers on the picket and show support. I went to a few RMT pickets in that capacity in the summer. If you try to break the rules there are inspectors and of course anyone in the general public who can report it to police and your picket is shut down.
When you look at how far the law goes on this and other union issues you can really see how cynical the Conservatives are about the rights of the working people they claim to champion.
As someone currently between jobs, I'd happily be a civilian bystander on an RCN picket line, if I was welcome.
How do I sign up?
While I'm in agreement that there is wastage (there is everywhere, including the private sector) you have to look at why a lot of these inefficiencies are there.I know it's only part of the issue but money wastage needs sorting out.
If there are people in the NHS, teaching, universities, councils who are happy to take £50k + a year and do as little as possible then there's clearly something wrong. Public sector pay should be related to visible performance. There are middle managers in the NHS who take home £50k + a year and all they can do is come up with shit ideas like team coffee mornings.
Suppliers is another big money wastage issue. Why is the NHS renting furniture from companies for thousands of pounds a week when it's probably cheaper to buy it outright?
The gravy train has to be derailed but that involves the people at the top curtailing their greed. Going to happen anytime soon?
I know it's only part of the issue but money wastage needs sorting out.
If there are people in the NHS, teaching, universities, councils who are happy to take £50k + a year and do as little as possible then there's clearly something wrong. Public sector pay should be related to visible performance. There are middle managers in the NHS who take home £50k + a year and all they can do is come up with shit ideas like team coffee mornings.
Suppliers is another big money wastage issue. Why is the NHS renting furniture from companies for thousands of pounds a week when it's probably cheaper to buy it outright?
The gravy train has to be derailed but that involves the people at the top curtailing their greed. Going to happen anytime soon?
You're having a laugh arent you. Iess than 5-10 max% of people in the NHS, teaching, universities, councils get paid £50k+ a year. And they certainly don't do as little as possible. You need to stop reading the daily mail.I know it's only part of the issue but money wastage needs sorting out.
If there are people in the NHS, teaching, universities, councils who are happy to take £50k + a year and do as little as possible then there's clearly something wrong. Public sector pay should be related to visible performance. There are middle managers in the NHS who take home £50k + a year and all they can do is come up with shit ideas like team coffee mornings.
Suppliers is another big money wastage issue. Why is the NHS renting furniture from companies for thousands of pounds a week when it's probably cheaper to buy it outright?
The gravy train has to be derailed but that involves the people at the top curtailing their greed. Going to happen anytime soon?
The problem is the wrong people are earning the money and it's those same people, the ones at the top on big salaries, who are charged with implementing any cuts. They aren't going to turn round and say their own job isn't needed so you end up with cuts to the frontline workers.I know it's only part of the issue but money wastage needs sorting out.
If there are people in the NHS, teaching, universities, councils who are happy to take £50k + a year and do as little as possible then there's clearly something wrong. Public sector pay should be related to visible performance. There are middle managers in the NHS who take home £50k + a year and all they can do is come up with shit ideas like team coffee mornings.
Suppliers is another big money wastage issue. Why is the NHS renting furniture from companies for thousands of pounds a week when it's probably cheaper to buy it outright?
The gravy train has to be derailed but that involves the people at the top curtailing their greed. Going to happen anytime soon?
CluelessI know it's only part of the issue but money wastage needs sorting out.
If there are people in the NHS, teaching, universities, councils who are happy to take £50k + a year and do as little as possible then there's clearly something wrong. Public sector pay should be related to visible performance. There are middle managers in the NHS who take home £50k + a year and all they can do is come up with shit ideas like team coffee mornings.
Suppliers is another big money wastage issue. Why is the NHS renting furniture from companies for thousands of pounds a week when it's probably cheaper to buy it outright?
The gravy train has to be derailed but that involves the people at the top curtailing their greed. Going to happen anytime soon?
Clueless
NHS rents furniture because it doesn't have the capital to buy it, simple really.
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