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skybluetony176

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  • Nov 4, 2022
  • #23,661
shmmeee said:
Wait. Did he drop out … for the good of the party??
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More like it was starting to look like hard work.
 
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PVA

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  • Nov 4, 2022
  • #23,662
Guys, the Tories haven't actually been in charge for 12 years. I think it's about time they got a chance to govern.


 
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chiefdave

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  • Nov 4, 2022
  • #23,663
PVA said:
Guys, the Tories haven't actually been in charge for 12 years. I think it's about time they got a chance to govern.

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There's been a lot of dumb things posted on this thread, most of them from twitter, but that has to be up there as the dumbest.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Nov 4, 2022
  • #23,664
PVA said:
Guys, the Tories haven't actually been in charge for 12 years. I think it's about time they got a chance to govern.


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His get out is the Tories barely had a majority for the past 12 years. Problem is when they didn’t have a majority they were markedly better than they have been since they’ve had a majority. Even under May they were more effective at governing. I don’t think that is the defence he thinks it is.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Nov 4, 2022
  • #23,665
The 2 years of Covid thing is bollocks too. If ever there’s an opportunity for a government to shine in government it’s in a time of crisis. The problem is the crisis is the government.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Nov 4, 2022
  • #23,666
shmmeee said:
Wait. Did he drop out … for the good of the party??
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Nope.

IF he did have enough votes he was definitely given or promised something pretty good to drop out. No way does someone like Johnson do something for the good of others. he does things for his own benefit and gratification - nothing else.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2022
  • #23,667

Rishi Sunak’s Russian Hypocrisy Shows Who he is Really Protecting

The Chancellor told UK firms to cut ties with Russia, while his own family kept hundreds of millions of pounds of shares in a company still operating in Moscow, reports Adam Bienkov
bylinetimes.com
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 4, 2022
  • #23,668
CCFCSteve said:
Is that you Tony ?! . There might be a small part but probably tiny in grand scheme of things

This was on a finance programme I saw the other day (im a dull man I know !) I think France and Spain are around 7-8% due to government assistance/suppression of energy costs. I’ve not fact checked but recognise the Holland and Germany numbers


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What about the other countries? It looks a bit selective.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 4, 2022
  • #23,669
PVA said:
What a wonderfully diverse audience.
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Wtaf these people live and breathe amongst us
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #23,670
Sick Boy said:
What about the other countries? It looks a bit selective.
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Yeah, I presume they were showing the worst hence my additional comment about France and Spain.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #23,671
When are the Tories going to take responsibility for what their demonisation of asylum seekers results in?

Dover migrant centre attack driven by right-wing ideology - police

Andrew Leak threw up to three incendiary devices at the site in Dover, Kent, last Sunday.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #23,672
Brighton Sky Blue said:
When are the Tories going to take responsibility for what their demonisation of asylum seekers results in?

Dover migrant centre attack driven by right-wing ideology - police

Andrew Leak threw up to three incendiary devices at the site in Dover, Kent, last Sunday.
www.bbc.co.uk
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They should but they won't and I would be amazed if the rhetoric changes. It's shameful.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Nov 6, 2022
  • #23,673
Gavin Williamson a bully and Sunak appointed him a minister anyway. Same old Tories.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 6, 2022
  • #23,674
skybluetony176 said:
Gavin Williamson a bully and Sunak appointed him a minister anyway. Same old Tories.
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Not just that but he was absolutely terrible in all his other Cabinet roles. Sacked for criminal incompetence at the MoD and so bad as Education minister that even Johnson had to let him go.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Nov 6, 2022
  • #23,675
skybluetony176 said:
Gavin Williamson a bully and Sunak appointed him a minister anyway. Same old Tories.
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Sir Gavin please Tony
 
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clint van damme

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  • Nov 6, 2022
  • #23,676
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Not just that but he was absolutely terrible in all his other Cabinet roles. Sacked for criminal incompetence at the MoD and so bad as Education minister that even Johnson had to let him go.
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The morals of Alan Bastard and the cunning of Mr. Bean.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Nov 6, 2022
  • #23,677
clint van damme said:
Sir Gavin please Tony
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He just sounds like a nasty piece of work….chief whip is the only role for him (if he’s got to be around cabinet at all)
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 6, 2022
  • #23,678
See the latest polling has Labour up again and Sunak just below Starmer in best PM. Blip or honeymoon over?
 

David O'Day

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  • Nov 6, 2022
  • #23,679
shmmeee said:
See the latest polling has Labour up again and Sunak just below Starmer in best PM. Blip or honeymoon over?
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i'd say the 2nd as any bounce he had was at best tiny
 

Ian1779

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  • Nov 6, 2022
  • #23,680
CCFCSteve said:
He just sounds like a nasty piece of work….chief whip is the only role for him (if he’s got to be around cabinet at all)
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He’s got to have some serious shit on some people.
 
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JAM See

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  • Nov 6, 2022
  • #23,681
 
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Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon

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  • Nov 6, 2022
  • #23,682
Ian1779 said:
He’s got to have some serious shit on some people.
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That's certainly the feeling regarding his inexplicable ability to fuck everything up repeatedly and somehow stick around.
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 7, 2022
  • #23,683
Genuine question. Is there a single metric of success that has gone up under the Tories? Just one?

Edit: unemployment I guess? Though they did take over just after a global recession.

 

chiefdave

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  • Nov 7, 2022
  • #23,684
shmmeee said:
Genuine question. Is there a single metric of success that has gone up under the Tories? Just one?

Edit: unemployment I guess? Though they did take over just after a global recession.

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I'm always slightly dubious of the unemployment figures, seems to be regular changes to how they're measured and not sure they really allow you to make much of a comparison. You can be on a zero hours contact barely getting any hours and be classed as employed as far as the figures go.

The different sets of figures, unemployment, employment, payrolled, economically inactive etc don't always seem consistent with each other.

For example in the latest figures the employment rate fell but the number of payrolled employees and self employed rose
 

skybluetony176

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  • Nov 7, 2022
  • #23,685
chiefdave said:
I'm always slightly dubious of the unemployment figures, seems to be regular changes to how they're measured and not sure they really allow you to make much of a comparison. You can be on a zero hours contact barely getting any hours and be classed as employed as far as the figures go.

The different sets of figures, unemployment, employment, payrolled, economically inactive etc don't always seem consistent with each other.

For example in the latest figures the employment rate fell but the number of payrolled employees and self employed rose
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Like you say, it depends on how you measure it with things like zero hours contracts screwing the data. When you quote the employment rates zero hours contracts should be quoted hand in hand as should the amount of people working who claim in work benefits at it tells you a lot about the quality of employment in the UK.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Nov 7, 2022
  • #23,686
I see another one of Boris’ madcap vanity projects has been dumped. The Royal Yacht is no more. Was set to cost at least £250M. Wonder if it’s already cost us millions without happening like most of his hare-brained ideas.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 7, 2022
  • #23,687
skybluetony176 said:
I see another one of Boris’ madcap vanity projects has been dumped. The Royal Yacht is no more. Was set to cost at least £250M. Wonder if it’s already cost us millions without happening like most of his hare-brained ideas.
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I’d like to know how much we’ve spent in total on the Brexit department since creating it
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Nov 7, 2022
  • #23,688
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 7, 2022
  • #23,689
CCFCSteve said:
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Red briefcase wanker
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Nov 7, 2022
  • #23,690
chiefdave said:
There's been a lot of dumb things posted on this thread, most of them from twitter, but that has to be up there as the dumbest.
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He's a fucking idiot, to be fair.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Nov 7, 2022
  • #23,691
shmmeee said:
Red briefcase wanker
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Brexit bus wanker too.
 

Mcbean

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  • Nov 7, 2022
  • #23,692
Could do worse than stop HS2
 
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clint van damme

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  • Nov 7, 2022
  • #23,693
Mcbean said:
Could do worse than stop HS2
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Think a watered down version is already been discussed though I've no idea what that entails
 

JAM See

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  • Nov 7, 2022
  • #23,694
clint van damme said:
Think a watered down version is already been discussed though I've no idea what that entails
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H2O?
 
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chiefdave

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  • Nov 7, 2022
  • #23,695
clint van damme said:
Think a watered down version is already been discussed though I've no idea what that entails
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its seems to mean finishing the bit connected to London and then abandoning the rest of the project.
 
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