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PVA

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #23,101
Support for Johnson is waning, looks like it'll be little Rishi.

Best result for the country I guess, though I would've enjoyed seeing Johnson getting utterly annihilated at an election.
 
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djr8369

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #23,102
PVA said:
Support for Johnson is waning, looks like it'll be little Rishi.

Best result for the country I guess, though I would've enjoyed seeing Johnson getting utterly annihilated at an election.
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BBC reporting he has hit 100. If he goes for it he’s back. Unbelievable.
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #23,103
djr8369 said:
BBC reporting he has hit 100. If he goes for it he’s back. Unbelievable.
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According to 'sources'. Actual backers is much lower. It's possibly a case of leaking that to try and create some momentum for people to jump on the bandwagon. Other Tory MPs say it's nonsense he has 100.

Nobody knows really
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #23,104
Of I was Aunak Id be getting supporters to tell Johnson they’re on board in private only to not vote that way.
 
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djr8369

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #23,105
PVA said:
According to 'sources'. Actual backers is much lower. It's possibly a case of leaking that to try and create some momentum for people to jump on the bandwagon. Other Tory MPs say it's nonsense he has 100.

Nobody knows really
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Yeah they rowed it back after. Looks like it’s as you say, a ruse to try and get a few more votes over the line. Desperate move which makes me think it’s all over and Sunak takes it without the vote being needed.
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #23,106
The fucking state of it


 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #23,107
Sick Boy said:

Gen Z are more right-leaning than you might think - in this economy who can blame them?

We shouldn’t be shocked when young people like Molly-Mae Hague repeat Thatcherite ideas
inews.co.uk
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Obviously this won't apply across the board but it seems that in terms of social issues they're to the left but things like wealth are more important to them. But I guess when they've very little prospect of getting on the property ladder etc stuff like that will matter to them.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #23,108
Terry Gibson's perm said:
There seems to be a real push to get that cretin Johnson back in. If he does he will be ridiculous as he will think he is indestructible and just continue to do what he wants and take the piss out of the British public.
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Part of me feels (or maybe hopes) that that would be the straw that broke the camels back and we'd actually start seeing movement - protests, civil disobedience etc.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #23,109
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Obviously this won't apply across the board but it seems that in terms of social issues they're to the left but things like wealth are more important to them. But I guess when they've very little prospect of getting on the property ladder etc stuff like that will matter to them.
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The reality show style of Boris' presentation would surely appeal to them as well.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #23,110
Some pundits on sky this afternoon carrying on that the market is too powerful and plenty of shit for the Central Banks.
Now of course Pension funds are free currently to buy bonds/gilts but I'd wary of the desire/, direction of both Boris and Sunak trying to drive/ induce the industry to direct it into British /home ventures without a veto regards risk of doing this personally.
 

Sick Boy

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #23,111
Can Johnson actually make a return? It’s a disgrace that he’s even being considered - he really has no shame.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #23,112
Sick Boy said:
Can Johnson actually make a return? It’s a disgrace that he’s even being considered - he really has no shame.
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Imagine if he comes back, gets found guilty of misleading parliament by the Privileges Committee and has to resign. We could have another leadership election before Christmas!
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #23,113
Conservative Party members...
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #23,114

This old quote from Boris Johnson feels very relevant right now

We’re not quite sure how we got back here, but Boris Johnson is reportedly set to run for Prime Minister once again.It was just a matter of weeks ago that Johnson stood outside Number 10 and told the nation “them’s the breaks” and informed them he would be leaving under the weight of numerous...
www.indy100.com
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #23,115
Some suggestion tonight that Boris’ team are trying to bullshit there way to 100 votes by saying they’ve already got 100. The idea it builds momentum. Trouble is MP’s that would have been considered a given for Boris are lining up to to back Rishi Sunak. Obviously we won’t know until we know but Boris bullshitting for personal gain is bang on form.
 
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Otis

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #23,116
skybluetony176 said:
Some suggestion tonight that Boris’ team are trying to bullshit there way to 100 votes by saying they’ve already got 100. The idea it builds momentum. Trouble is MP’s that would have been considered a given for Boris are lining up to to back Rishi Sunak. Obviously we won’t know until we know but Boris bullshitting for personal gain is bang on form.
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Boris lying? Surely not.

What an absolute shock.
 
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duffer

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #23,117
Sick Boy said:
Can Johnson actually make a return? It’s a disgrace that he’s even being considered - he really has no shame.
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I'm moving to the opinion that I'd quite like him back. Show the Tory party for what they really are, corrupt, incompetent, and chaotic.

It might be the fastest way to get to a general election. Just a thought...
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #23,118
Sick Boy said:
Can Johnson actually make a return? It’s a disgrace that he’s even being considered - he really has no shame.
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It'll be the fastest way of getting a Labour government. Sunak will erode the current lead and generally steady the ship-the country in the short term needs Sunak, in the long term it probably bizarrely needs Boris
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #23,119
skybluetony176 said:
Some suggestion tonight that Boris’ team are trying to bullshit there way to 100 votes by saying they’ve already got 100. The idea it builds momentum. Trouble is MP’s that would have been considered a given for Boris are lining up to to back Rishi Sunak. Obviously we won’t know until we know but Boris bullshitting for personal gain is bang on form.
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Spot on. Read an article yesterday talking about this and how Truss (Johnson) supporters bluffed Truss to victory by overstating her support and popularity and that this is what’s going on with Johnson now. MPs/members just jump on the bandwagon. Embarrassing really if true, but wouldn’t surprise me
 

skybluetony176

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #23,120
Someone has just pointed out that team Boris keep listing Shaun Bailey on their list as a backer. Shaun Bailey is a member of the London assembly not a member of parliament. He doesn’t have a vote. Might be some merit to this Bullshitting the numbers story.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #23,121
CCFCSteve said:
Spot on. Read an article yesterday talking about this and how Truss (Johnson) supporters bluffed Truss to victory by overstating her support and popularity and that this is what’s going on with Johnson now. MPs/members just jump on the bandwagon. Embarrassing really if true, but wouldn’t surprise me
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They all just go with who they think is the winning horse and then who offers them the better Cabinet positions. Reminds me of that quote from Catch Me If You Can:

Why do the Yankees always win? Because the other teams can't stop staring at the pinstripes
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #23,122
Sums the man up that he's been on holiday for 3 months, not bothering to serve his constituency, not bothering to turn up to parliament. As soon as there's a hint of power and personal gain he jumps on the plane.

He is interested in one thing and one thing only, himself. It's absurd that people genuinely think he has their interests at heart. Anyone who genuinely believes that is frankly fucking thick.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 23, 2022
  • #23,123
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It'll be the fastest way of getting a Labour government. Sunak will erode the current lead and generally steady the ship-the country in the short term needs Sunak, in the long term it probably bizarrely needs Boris
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Not sure how Sunak will come across during an election campaign. I don't care that he has money (does he want to buy a football club?), but he does say things every now and again that are out of touch with the average working man. The non Dom and US stuff is an easy stick, too.

I'd have been (relatively!) comfortable with him as leader, but his desperate lurch to the right towards the end of the last contest to curry favour suggests he isn't that principled himself!
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Oct 23, 2022
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Philosoraptor

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  • Oct 23, 2022
  • #23,125
The fifth horseman of the apocalypse, Steve Baker, has come out for Sunak.

One thinks he was made Northern Ireland secretary to get him as far away from Westminster as possible.
 

Terry_dactyl

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 23, 2022
  • #23,126
PVA said:
Sums the man up that he's been on holiday for 3 months, not bothering to serve his constituency, not bothering to turn up to parliament. As soon as there's a hint of power and personal gain he jumps on the plane.

He is interested in one thing and one thing only, himself. It's absurd that people genuinely think he has their interests at heart. Anyone who genuinely believes that is frankly fucking thick.
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I’m not sure that people do think he cares about them. Just that he’s perceived as a ‘winner’ and someone who wont take any shitso will get us the best deal/won’t be bossed around etc etc etc.
All absolute horseshit of course.
It’s the same bollocks that was fed to get us out of Europe…”I don’t want someone telling me what to do/here’s someone who won’t have people telling him what he’s got to do”.
It’s the stuff of pantomime.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 23, 2022
  • #23,127
Loadsamoney’s description of him on Friday night was spot on - haha!
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 23, 2022
  • #23,128
If it's correct that he asked Sunak to acquiesce for a ministerial spot in his favour it just shows the ludicrous levels of hubris and delusion he carries IMO.
 
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Marty

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  • Oct 23, 2022
  • #23,129
BoJo is a man of the people, give him a chance (again)!!

Seriously though, we just need an election now, the Tories are a shambles.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Oct 23, 2022
  • #23,130
Those photos of him half asleep in front of the flags pretending to be on the phone pretty much sum him up.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Oct 23, 2022
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skybluetony176

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  • Oct 23, 2022
  • #23,132
Even Steve Baker gets it


I’m still kinda hoping he does win though.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 23, 2022
  • #23,133
Deleted member 5849 said:
Not sure how Sunak will come across during an election campaign. I don't care that he has money (does he want to buy a football club?), but he does say things every now and again that are out of touch with the average working man. The non Dom and US stuff is an easy stick, too.

I'd have been (relatively!) comfortable with him as leader, but his desperate lurch to the right towards the end of the last contest to curry favour suggests he isn't that principled himself!
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I think he has a grip on economic reality that the others don’t. Though like the others, he wants to smash the unions even more and would probably try to revoke the right to strike
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 23, 2022
  • #23,134
skybluetony176 said:
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Yeah but is his cap on straight?
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 23, 2022
  • #23,135
Fucking hell. The absolute brass neck on these pricks.

Within 24 hours of becoming chancellor he demanded Johnson's resignation. Now he thinks that stepping down for covering for a sex offender and ruining the government's reputation is an example of getting the big calls right?

Just unbelievable. The contempt they have for the general public. Imagine voting for people like this.


 
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