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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 17, 2022
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Otis said:
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Well he is now PM, isn't he.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #22,542
Sunak in to 6/4 for next tory leader.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Oct 17, 2022
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Well he is now PM, isn't he.
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In all but name. He’s pretty much reversed the whole mandate on which she was elected by members
 
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chiefdave

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  • Oct 17, 2022
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Quick scan seems to show we're not getting the cut in income tax anymore, the energy price guarantee has been cut to 6 months but lenders are already saying its unlikely to have a significant impact on mortgage rates.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 17, 2022
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chiefdave said:
Quick scan seems to show we're not getting the cut in income tax anymore, the energy price guarantee has been cut to 6 months but lenders are already saying its unlikely to have a significant impact on mortgage rates.
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Think at the moment the aim is to ensure GB PLC doesn't go bust!
 

skybluetony176

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #22,546
Tee hee hee

 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 17, 2022
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So announcement increases borrowing for everyone and now it’s all been cancelled borrowing is still increased ffs
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #22,548
Sky Blue Pete said:
So announcement increases borrowing for everyone and now it’s all been cancelled borrowing is still increased ffs
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Yeah that’s the thing. This whole episode has been for nothing and the end result is we are the ones that have to pay for it.

It’s utterly scandalous. There is no way she can carry on.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 17, 2022
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Kwasi Kwarteng’s Budget is a moment in history that will radically transform Britain

With one move, Britain’s competitiveness, its investor friendliness and its attractiveness to top talent has been hugely amplified
www.telegraph.co.uk

They weren't wrong...
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 17, 2022
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Debatable, tbf

 
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Ian1779

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  • Oct 17, 2022
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wingy

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #22,552
Time to break out the Covid card I reckon.
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #22,553
He makes a good point...


 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 17, 2022
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shmmeee said:

Lowest ever amount of Tory MPs if it happened. Seeing people saying no election until 2025
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Is Labour gaining from SNP in that?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 17, 2022
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PVA said:
He makes a good point...


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tbf, just about everybody agrees this is a car crash caused by a mentalist hopelessly out of their depth.

Even Tory MPs agree with that!

So not sure there's any firther to go if it were a Labour govt.
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #22,556
Deleted member 5849 said:
So not sure there's any firther to go if it were a Labour govt.
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Then you have a higher opinion of the right wing press in this country than I do!
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #22,557
Nice line from Starmer...

'The lady is not for turning... up.'
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 17, 2022
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Is Labour gaining from SNP in that?
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I assume so, Union vote going Labour I’d assume.
 

chiefdave

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #22,559
Penny Mordaunt continues hitting back at the leader of the opposition.

She says Sir Keir Starmer's arguments are "against the national interest" adding that he has "abandoned" pledges which he ran on during his leadership race.
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Not sure that's an argument she's going to win. Truss has already abandoned everything she ran on in her leadership campaign.
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #22,560
Mordaunt going full @Ian1779 I see

Wonder when she’ll call for the Forde Report
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #22,561
PVA said:
Nice line from Starmer...

'The lady is not for turning... up.'
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It was a decent line !

I agree with NW, I don’t think there would be much difference in media treatment if this had happened under Labour. Truss has been slaughtered, and rightly so, by pretty much everyone inc all media I’ve seen.

The difference might be later if/when a new leader takes over, it will be swept under the carpet by some papers ‘nothing to see here’ whereas they would continue to link it to Labour if it happened under them.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #22,562
CCFCSteve said:
It was a decent line !

I agree with NW, I don’t think there would be much difference in media treatment if this had happened under Labour. Truss has been slaughtered, and rightly so, by pretty much everyone inc all media I’ve seen.

The difference might be later if/when a new leader takes over, it will be swept under the carpet by some papers ‘nothing to see here’ whereas they would continue to link it to Labour if it happened under them.
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People still believe the lies of the 2010 election
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #22,563
CCFCSteve said:
It was a decent line !

I agree with NW, I don’t think there would be much difference in media treatment if this had happened under Labour. Truss has been slaughtered, and rightly so, by pretty much everyone inc all media I’ve seen.

The difference might be later if/when a new leader takes over, it will be swept under the carpet by some papers ‘nothing to see here’ whereas they would continue to link it to Labour if it happened under them.
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The one thing I’ve noticed is far less introspection than we got with Corbyn and he never got near power let alone was PM. The fact is both listened to fringe outlets, we heard all about the hard left especially Momentum but commentary on the IEA or the TPA for example whose fingerprints are all over this seems non-existent.
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #22,564
Mordaunt is so much better than Truss. Head and shoulders above.

But then I realised that's not quite the compliment I originally thought it was when I remembered that Liz Truss looks set to be outwitted by a lettuce.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #22,565
shmmeee said:
The one thing I’ve noticed is far less introspection than we got with Corbyn and he never got near power let alone was PM. The fact is both listened to fringe outlets, we heard all about the hard left especially Momentum but commentary on the IEA or the TPA for example whose fingerprints are all over this seems non-existent.
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Fair point, I just think people have assumed the crazy ideas came from a nutter of a PM. Who knows.
 

JAM See

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #22,566
Where is the Prime Minister?

The smart money is on Ukraine apparently.

What a dereliction of duty if that is correct.
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #22,567
JAM See said:
Where is the Prime Minister?

The smart money is on Ukraine apparently.

What a dereliction of duty if that is correct.
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Nope she is in parliament apparently. But too busy to attend the UQ.

Resigning?


 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #22,568
PVA said:
Mordaunt is so much better than Truss. Head and shoulders above.

But then I realised that's not quite the compliment I originally thought it was when I remembered that Liz Truss looks set to be outwitted by a lettuce.
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Agreed. She’s good. more than capable at the dispatch box. Rumours of Mordant and Sunak teaming up to take over from Truss would certainly help the Tories but ultimately both want to be PM so can’t see it happening.
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 17, 2022
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She's just strolled in to the commons. How convenient that the urgent business and 'very good reason' for not attending the UQ finishes just as the UQ finishes.

Hoyle being an absolute wet blanket as always too.
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #22,570
Erm, is she OK?

She genuinely doesn't look all there...

 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #22,571
CCFCSteve said:
Fair point, I just think people have assumed the crazy ideas came from a nutter of a PM. Who knows.
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Maybe I’m being paranoid, maybe it’s because the Right of Labour was quicker to push it, maybe it’s because Corbyn lasted longer and the media had to respond with people with his views.

But for me this should spell the end of the BBC having the likes of the IEA and TPA on as independent experts for anything and everything. Their ideas have been shown to be ridiculous and their talking heads should be treated as such.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #22,572
PVA said:
Erm, is she OK?

She genuinely doesn't look all there...

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Looks knackered and almost nodding off…not sure if that’s a culmination of recent events or due to Hunts chat
 

JAM See

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #22,573

Kwasi Kwarteng’s Budget is a moment in history that will radically transform Britain

With one move, Britain’s competitiveness, its investor friendliness and its attractiveness to top talent has been hugely amplified
www.telegraph.co.uk

archive.ph
(As above, with paywall removed)


Well that aged well.
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #22,574
JAM See said:

Kwasi Kwarteng’s Budget is a moment in history that will radically transform Britain

With one move, Britain’s competitiveness, its investor friendliness and its attractiveness to top talent has been hugely amplified
www.telegraph.co.uk

archive.ph
(As above, with paywall removed)


Well that aged well.
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He’s still pedalling it, amazingly:Britain's zombie economy is crumbling and the real culprits are getting off scot-free
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #22,575
Reeves is a decent speaker as well
 
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