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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (35 Viewers)

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Frostie

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  • Sep 30, 2022
  • #21,736
I mean, really?
Are they that detached from reality or just think Joe public are gullible?

 

robbiekeane

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  • Sep 30, 2022
  • #21,737
Frostie said:
I mean, really?
Are they that detached from reality or just think Joe public are gullible?

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The funniest thing about that is they think a first time buyer earning 30k a year can buy a terraced house in London
 

JAM See

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  • Sep 30, 2022
  • #21,738
Frostie said:
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"When there is not enough to eat people starve to death. It is better to let half of the people die so that the other half can eat their fill."

Sounds eerily familiar.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 30, 2022
  • #21,739
Best answer to that

 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Sep 30, 2022
  • #21,740
Liquid Gold said:
Best answer to that

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To be fair there may be a second earner contributing (which still makes it very disingenuous), but it's still nothing like the reality for even people that do earn that.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Sep 30, 2022
  • #21,741
JAM See said:
"When there is not enough to eat people starve to death. It is better to let half of the people die so that the other half can eat their fill."

Sounds eerily familiar.
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Except with this lot it's "better to let 90% of the population starve or freeze to death so the remaining ten percent can buy a new yacht."
 

Ian1779

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  • Sep 30, 2022
  • #21,742
JAM See said:
"When there is not enough to eat people starve to death. It is better to let half of the people die so that the other half can eat their fill."

Sounds eerily familiar.
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 30, 2022
  • #21,743
None of this is surprising based upon Britannia Unchained, you lazy idlers!
 
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SkyBlueCharlie9

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  • Sep 30, 2022
  • #21,744
CCFCWilson said:

an actual disgrace
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You are an actual angry gammon, snowflake, bed wetter. Grow up.
 
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JAM See

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  • Sep 30, 2022
  • #21,745
Ian1779 said:
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Fuck me! I've only just realised that Marvel (and by extension Disney) are Maoists at heart.

This is proper deep state stuff.

You've blown the whole conspiracy wide open Ian.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 1, 2022
  • #21,746
Just heard Robert Buckland suggesting that banks will be paying more tax as a result of changes made as a result of legislation 2021-2022.
There is a surcharge on profit's over £25M this surcharge is dropping from 8% to 3% over a £100M.
I'm confident this was on the assumption Corporation tax was due to increase conventional CT from 19% to 25% which of course is now not happening.
CT for banks will now be approx 22% instead of 28% .
Doesn't stack up for me?
Edit:- even Sunak's legislation was predicted to reduce the take from £1.6B to £500M.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Oct 1, 2022
  • #21,747

This doesn’t quite sound like it did in the speech
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 1, 2022
  • #21,748
Ian1779 said:
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This doesn’t quite sound like it did in the speech
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So what is it then? A bank?

PFI2 Electric Boogaloo?

Fucks sake Kieth
 

Ian1779

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  • Oct 1, 2022
  • #21,749
shmmeee said:
So what is it then? A bank?

PFI2 Electric Boogaloo?
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I’m not sure - I was expecting a public company to buy energy from that would in theory trump the others with it’s cheaper energy costs.
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 1, 2022
  • #21,750
Ian1779 said:
I’m not sure - I was expecting a public company to buy energy from that would in theory trump the others with it’s cheaper energy costs.
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Well it can’t buy energy cheaper

He’s pledged by 2030 we will be a net exporter hadn’t he?
 

chiefdave

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  • Oct 1, 2022
  • #21,751
Ian1779 said:
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This doesn’t quite sound like it did in the speech
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Seems like an open goal missed. Unless he's hoping nobody pays any attention to the details and just goes with the headlines from his speech.
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 1, 2022
  • #21,752
chiefdave said:
Seems like an open goal missed. Unless he's hoping nobody pays any attention to the details and just goes with the headlines from his speech.
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It was hardly going to start competing against 6 established energy suppliers was it
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 1, 2022
  • #21,753
Ian1779 said:
I’m not sure - I was expecting a public company to buy energy from that would in theory trump the others with it’s cheaper energy costs.
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I was expecting a company that owns the renewable generation in this country and ideally sells it locally.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 1, 2022
  • #21,754
Grendel said:
It was hardly going to start competing against 6 established energy suppliers was it
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Why?
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 1, 2022
  • #21,755
shmmeee said:
Why?
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Setting up an independent supplier of energy from scratch? How’s that going to actually work unless you monopolise an established supply route and sell at substantially below the purchasing price - which means you are borrowing to fund the gap or regaining shortfalls through tax

By the time it’s set up 2030 will be here. It’s aim I would assume is to create a renewable policy in the country. Hasn’t he pledged to remove all fossil fuel driven electricity by 2030 anyway?
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 1, 2022
  • #21,756
Grendel said:
Setting up an independent supplier of energy from scratch? How’s that going to actually work unless you monopolise an established supply route and sell at substantially below the purchasing price - which means you are borrowing to fund the gap or regaining shortfalls through tax

By the time it’s set up 2030 will be here. It’s aim I would assume is to create a renewable policy in the country. Hasn’t he pledged to remove all fossil fuel driven electricity by 2030 anyway?
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Why would they be buying energy? The point is it’s a vehicle for the required renewables investment required over the next few decades.
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 1, 2022
  • #21,757
shmmeee said:
Why would they be buying energy? The point is it’s a vehicle for the required renewables investment required over the next few decades.
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My impression is the big 6 will continue supplying current energy and this company will encourage British private enterprise investment in renewable energies and facilitate that strategy so by 2030 it can supply clean energy across the uk from private uk companies
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 1, 2022
  • #21,758
Grendel said:
My impression is the big 6 will continue supplying current energy and this company will encourage British private enterprise investment in renewable energies and facilitate that strategy so by 2030 it can supply clean energy across the uk from private uk companies
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No its an investment fund in itself and ultimately self sustaining financially, the whole point is to compete with the existing suppliers they said:

12ft
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 1, 2022
  • #21,759
shmmeee said:
No its an investment fund in itself and ultimately self sustaining financially, the whole point is to compete with the existing suppliers they said:

12ft
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Ians quote suggests otherwise doesn’t it?
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 1, 2022
  • #21,760
Grendel said:
Ians quote suggests otherwise doesn’t it?
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That’s why I’m asking. Reading the NS piece, which you assume was briefed, it sounds like it’ll invest in renewable generation, but I don’t see how that doesn’t make it a supplier. Is it just a green bank?

Would be good to get more detail, I’m sure once things calm down with the government the media will start picking it apart.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 1, 2022
  • #21,761
Oh man this is impressive.

 

chiefdave

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  • Oct 1, 2022
  • #21,762
shmmeee said:
Oh man this is impressive.

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The most impressive one is more people see the tories divided than labour!
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 1, 2022
  • #21,763
You’re not supposed to say this out loud!

 

stupot07

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  • Oct 1, 2022
  • #21,764
They don't even try to hide it any more.


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Deleted member 9744

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  • Oct 1, 2022
  • #21,765
chiefdave said:
The most impressive one is more people see the tories divided than labour!
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Certainly doesn't apply on here though!
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 2, 2022
  • #21,766
For those asking about don’t knows @Brighton Sky Blue (?)

 
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wingy

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  • Oct 2, 2022
  • #21,767
That's interesting.
Charlie famous for his Climate opinion's should not go to COP in Egypt.
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 2, 2022
  • #21,768
stupot07 said:
They don't even try to hide it any more.


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This really needs to make it into main stream news. Everyone needs to hear about this.

If it does it'll be the end of KK. And the end of the Tory party for a good while.

Imagine actually voting for these cunts.
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 2, 2022
  • #21,769
It's clear Sunak was the superior candidate, membership completely out of touch getting this dopey bitch in. Should be dragged out and marched through the streets Cersei Lannister style.

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 2, 2022
  • #21,770
TomRad85 said:
It's clear Sunak was the superior candidate, membership completely out of touch getting this dopey bitch in. Should be dragged out and marched through the streets Cersei Lannister style.

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There needs to be an election, they’ve had more than enough chances and pick somebody worse each time. The whole electorate needs a say now.
 
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