That’s a quarter of what the government is going to pay in extra interest on the countries current debt this year due to it’s mismanagement of the economy just in the last week. On that basis I’m going to say £2.5B to Ukraine is money well spent.You’ve been the wrong side of every political vote since you could vote haven’t you surely?
Regarding Ukraine do you support another £2.5 billion on more arms for Ukraine? I’m sure many Uk people could benefit from that?
the 2016 referendum and the general elections are not the only time people have voted since 2010, dimwitWell did you vote Tory or for Brexit?
Well did you vote Tory or for Brexit?
Of course he does, he’s a moron.Ah so you think voting for the winning side is the same as voting for the right one
the 2016 referendum and the general elections are not the only time people have voted since 2010, dimwit
also it's not as if the 2.5 billion has been removed from any departments discretionary spending so it's a bullshit comparisonThat’s a quarter of what the government is going to pay in extra interest on the countries current debt this year due to it’s mismanagement of the economy just in the last week. On that basis I’m going to say £2.5B to Ukraine is money well spent.
Of course he does, he’s a moron.
it was the breakdown of that top five percent meana that shocked me. £1bn for fewer people than go to a CCFC League Cup first round game
some people have predicted thisDid I hear correctly on the radio this morning? Talk of needing to call the IMF in to stabilise the collapsing economy.
some people have predicted this
Britain heading for IMF bailout, warns Dr Doom
Warning comes as fears grow that pound will hit dollar paritywww.telegraph.co.uk
They’d be better putting the energy into chasing non-voters I reckon.Whole lot do work for Labour to do to convince ex Tory voters still…
type of shit some people post on hereThese people are deranged.
The pound crashed because Labour might win the next election. Amazing
(He babbles on for a bit longer that just the tweet below, but I can't be bothered to post them all.)
Most aren’t in my experience
curtis has form for not being able to read a data tableWhole lot do work for Labour to do to convince ex Tory voters still…
Most aren’t in my experience
They’d be better putting the energy into chasing non-voters I reckon.
Well it is a strategy by attracting people that wouldn’t ordinarily vote to do so because you’ve given them incentive to do so.Non-voters look the same as voters. It’s not a strategy. You win elections by convincing people who vote to vote for you, and if you convince a Tory voter that’s worth double.
And the default voter in the U.K. is a Tory voter after all, so it’s a bit hard to avoid them.
Well it is a strategy by attracting people that wouldn’t ordinarily vote to do so because you’ve given them incentive to do so.
Might not be a strategy that you can measure to be fair.
You can. We have numbers.
This is a breakdown of a hypothetical 2017, which shows the task required:Could Corbyn win an election by mobilising non-voters? Not if he doesn’t win over Conservative supporters too
Basically we’d need record and world beating turnout and all new voters to vote Labour to overturn the Tories.
The right method is to let Lib Dem’s and Greens take votes from the Tories in the particularly right wing bits of the country, and get back the lost seats in places with low levels of University education.
Doubling down on the base just gives you numbers where you don’t need them and is more likely to turn off non partisan voters.
This is why I strongly believe you need activists, including economic activists, making the case in the media, and politicians tacking to the public and plucking ideas once the ground is set.
There are so many people looking for an excuse not to vote Tory, trust me on that. The problem is, and you can see it even in this thread which is a highly left leaning one, that there is very little self-critique. I well and truly agree that the Tories, for example, are generally a bunch of pricks and their behaviour, policies, and the like do not deserve to be rewarded with support from the general public. Yet, the opposition isn't doing enough to pull the swing voters away.
Look at Sweden and Italy, almost no mention of that here at all. If there is, it is just some sound bites about 'the far right'. Unfortunately, the left is being rejected everywhere at a time where they should be clearing up. I know people on here will try to argue that I am wrong, but I don't know how many times I can say it as someone who falls into the category of a swing voter myself. The left need to stop blaming everyone else and sort themselves out, they'll then win easily and probably stay in power for a considerable length of time. A large chunk of people voting for the Tories come election time aren't coming out of the polling stations with massive grins on their faces but they'll keep voting for them until they have another party to vote for that they can relate to better on all matter of levels.
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