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duffer

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,826
SBAndy said:
Instead we get Charter Cities. The joy.
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Don't forget pounds, ounces, noggins and groats. We shouldn't sell Brexit short now...
 
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shmmeee

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,827
Not that anyone needed the data to prove it but here it is:

 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,828
shmmeee said:
Not that anyone needed the data to prove it but here it is:

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The bit about Doctors is telling. 30,000 people apply to be a doctor in a year but only 7,500 people get a placement. Investment in the NHS is stalling the number of doctors in the UK not a lack of ambition in the young compared to countries like India.

The case for industry is obvious as well. Again a lack of investment, which has been falling dramatically under the Tories. The longer the Tories have been in power the further investment in the UK has fallen, especially since 2016. For some reason.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,829
SBAndy said:
Instead we get Charter Cities. The joy.
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Another idea that only benefits a wealthy few and will corrode the rights of the average working man and woman.


I'm getting to the point where I'm going to have to vote for Starmer because despite my misgivings this lot really are disaster for all but a small percentage of the population.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,830
clint van damme said:
Another idea that only benefits a wealthy few and will corrode the rights of the average working man and woman.


I'm getting to the point where I'm going to have to vote for Starmer because despite my misgivings this lot really are disaster for all but a small percentage of the population.
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It’s Starmers overriding quality. He’s not a Tory. Well, not a Tory party member

I’m just going to vote tactically next GE. Will probably mean Labour but if by any small chance it’s Lib/Dem I’ll be voting Lib/Dem. Either way living in a safe Tory seat I doubt my vote will count for anything and fully expect Mark Pawsey to get in again.

Vote tactically to either keep the Tories out or kick them out.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,831
I see the rescheduled train strike date’s have just been confirmed for the 1st and 5th of October. Coincidently the first and last days of the Conservative and breaking up the Union’s party conference.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,832
first by-election of the truss era, pretty safe labour seat
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,833
clint van damme said:
Another idea that only benefits a wealthy few and will corrode the rights of the average working man and woman.


I'm getting to the point where I'm going to have to vote for Starmer because despite my misgivings this lot really are disaster for all but a small percentage of the population.
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Thats the Labour spirit!!
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,834
She is an absolute cúnt.

Liz Truss defends plan to lift cap on bankers’ bonuses

The prime minister tells the BBC lifting a cap on bonuses is part of a plan to increase growth.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,835
Philosorapter said:
She is an absolute cúnt.

Liz Truss defends plan to lift cap on bankers’ bonuses

The prime minister tells the BBC lifting a cap on bonuses is part of a plan to increase growth.
www.bbc.co.uk
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But energy firms profits must still be protected, the fucking cow
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,836
Philosorapter said:
She is an absolute cúnt.

Liz Truss defends plan to lift cap on bankers’ bonuses

The prime minister tells the BBC lifting a cap on bonuses is part of a plan to increase growth.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Funny how she didn't think that when it was a green levy to develop renewable energy. Which would have given us energy security.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,837
Who knew we'd end up with a more left president of the USA than our own Prime Minister!
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,838
Deleted member 5849 said:
Who knew we'd end up with a more left president of the USA than our own Prime Minister!
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Truthful, the word is truthful.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,839
Bloody hell listening to Radio 4 and the presenter is a total loon, banging on about trickle down economics and it being a moral thing. They don’t even pretend any more.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,840
shmmeee said:
Thats the Labour spirit!!
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Winning by default, the best kind of winning
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,841
Philosorapter said:
She is an absolute cúnt.

Liz Truss defends plan to lift cap on bankers’ bonuses

The prime minister tells the BBC lifting a cap on bonuses is part of a plan to increase growth.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Are we allowed to say it’s stupid to vote for this party unless you’re a banker?
 

JAM See

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,842
shmmeee said:
Bloody hell listening to Radio 4 and the presenter is a total loon, banging on about trickle down economics and it being a moral thing. They don’t even pretend any more.
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The narrative seems to be that the very rich are Viv Nicholson's.

They're not, they're more Ingvar Kamprad's.

Trickle down DOES. NOT. WORK.
 
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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,843
shmmeee said:
Bloody hell listening to Radio 4 and the presenter is a total loon, banging on about trickle down economics and it being a moral thing. They don’t even pretend any more.
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I thought he seemed to be sneering at the idea that Governments should act in a moral way. The argument was that morality gets in the way of growth, which in itself is nonsense.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,844
Deleted member 9744 said:
I thought he seemed to be sneering at the idea that Governments should act in a moral way. The argument was that morality gets in the way of growth, which in itself is nonsense.
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Ah you may be right. But yeah very strange tack to take. Seems the BBC have had their lines though and the gotcha question to Labour will be “why are you so against people getting rich” and not “what’s the best way to grow the economy”
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,845
shmmeee said:
Ah you may be right. But yeah very strange tack to take. Seems the BBC have had their lines though and the gotcha question to Labour will be “why are you so against people getting rich” and not “what’s the best way to grow the economy”
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‘I’m not I support higher wages for all’

Next
 
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PVA

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,846
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Are we allowed to say it’s stupid to vote for this party unless you’re a banker?
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Not just allowed, but actively encouraged.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,847
https://twitter.com/NadineDorries
https://twitter.com/JEGullis
https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,848
Deleted member 5849 said:
https://twitter.com/NadineDorries
https://twitter.com/JEGullis
https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns
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‘Something went wrong. Please try again.’

Should be Labour’s election slogan
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,849
Brighton Sky Blue said:
‘Something went wrong. Please try again.’

Should be Labour’s election slogan
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Gullis's one suspended, the other pair appear to have deleted their accounts.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,850
Deleted member 5849 said:
Gullis's one suspended, the other pair appear to have deleted their accounts.
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Are they the original accounts not parodies?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,851
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Are they the original accounts not parodies?
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Gullis and Dorries real - can't be bothered to check the other nonentity
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,852
Deleted member 5849 said:
Gullis and Dorries real - can't be bothered to check the other nonentity
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Honest Gav will confirm

 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,853
Jenkyns' is her's too, as seen by it linking on her own website.

Portal | Dame Andrea Jenkyns

Dame Andrea Jenkyns -Mummy, Former MP, Minister, Singer, Songwriter, and Outspoken Northerner.
www.andreajenkyns.co.uk
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,854
Maybe they're all off to Truth Social, or whatever it's called...
 

SomersetSB

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,855
Philosorapter said:
She is an absolute cúnt.

Liz Truss defends plan to lift cap on bankers’ bonuses

The prime minister tells the BBC lifting a cap on bonuses is part of a plan to increase growth.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Not a clue, I thought bring an ex Lib Dem she would have a bit of one!
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,856

Her body language gives her away. It’s the head nodding. Just reminds me of this

 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,857
JAM See said:
The narrative seems to be that the very rich are Viv Nicholson's.

They're not, they're more Ingvar Kamprad's.

Trickle down DOES. NOT. WORK.
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Well they're refusing to publish the economic forecasts. I guess because they've seen them and it doesn't show what they want it to so they'll just ignore it to go with the bullshit that hasn't worked since the 80's yet they desperately cling to.

It doesn't even make sense saying that companies having more money creates more jobs. People buying products and services creates more jobs. If your policies make the vast majority of people have less money, they buy fewer goods and services. And so will more likely cost jobs not create them.

Isn't it about time we tried Spring Up economics rather than Trickle Down?
 
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BodicoteSkyBlue

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,858
Deleted member 5849 said:
Honest Gav will confirm

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I thought they’d already got Brexit done??
 
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Ian1779

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,859
skybluetony176 said:

Her body language gives her away. It’s the head nodding. Just reminds me of this

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Such a powderpuff interview too - the alleged ‘journalist’ didn’t challenge one ounce of her bullshit. Might as well have been a party political broadcast.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Sep 20, 2022
  • #20,860
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Well they're refusing to publish the economic forecasts. I guess because they've seen them and it doesn't show what they want it to so they'll just ignore it to go with the bullshit that hasn't worked since the 80's yet they desperately cling to.

It doesn't even make sense saying that companies having more money creates more jobs. People buying products and services creates more jobs. If your policies make the vast majority of people have less money, they buy fewer goods and services. And so will more likely cost jobs not create them.

Isn't it about time we tried Spring Up economics rather than Trickle Down?
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The devil is obviously in the detail but from what she’s said in interviews she seems completely economically illiterate. She’s been banging on about our debt to GDP ratio desperately trying to justify borrowing by saying we’re not as bad as other G7 countries. Which as a comment in isolation is true but it doesn’t mean we’re doing great. It’s currently at about 81% but we’ve had slow/stagnated growth for a decade, are heading into a recession which is projected to be deeper and longer than comparable countries which is going to increase that number without the extra debt she’s talking about. The country is spiralling and she’s on cloud cuckoo land.
 
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