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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 7, 2022
  • #20,721
Unity

 
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 7, 2022
  • #20,722
Ian1779 said:
If they are still in charge in 2026 I imagine it will only be landed gentry and above that are eligible to vote.
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A move opposed by the shadow home secretary of the newly formed far left opposition party the new conservatives, Priti Patel.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Sep 7, 2022
  • #20,723
Deleted member 5849 said:
Unity

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Apparently he’s considering resigning as an MP so it could be by-election time again. It’s also a seat Labour held not so long ago so is winnable for them.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Sep 7, 2022
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Sick Boy

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  • Sep 7, 2022
  • #20,725
I’d be amazed if she’s still in power this time next year.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 7, 2022
  • #20,726
Sick Boy said:
I’d be amazed if she’s still in power this time next year.
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Has there ever been a PM that never faced the electorate?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 7, 2022
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shmmeee said:
Has there ever been a PM that never faced the electorate?
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Bonar Law?
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Sep 7, 2022
  • #20,728
shmmeee said:
Has there ever been a PM that never faced the electorate?
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Gordon Brown got chucked out at the first opportunity after three years.

Labour has never been good at doing this Democracy thing.

Can see an election in 12-18 months. Any PM needs a mandate from the people.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Sep 7, 2022
  • #20,729
shmmeee said:
Has there ever been a PM that never faced the electorate?
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Are you including hiding in fridges in that question?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 7, 2022
  • #20,730
skybluetony176 said:
Apparently he’s considering resigning as an MP so it could be by-election time again. It’s also a seat Labour held not so long ago so is winnable for them.
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He has a pretty big majority though, over 10,000.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 7, 2022
  • #20,731
Truss and her army of IEA and Tufton St advisors don't believe in the state. I assume that includes the state security services which they might need if mass unemployment and poverty (a very real prospect) hit.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 7, 2022
  • #20,732
Deleted member 5849 said:
Bonar Law?
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I think he was elected in a GE then died pretty quickly.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Sep 7, 2022
  • #20,733
Brighton Sky Blue said:
He has a pretty big majority though, over 10,000.
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Won at a time when the Tories were popular coupled with him being popular. Not saying isn’t a tall ask but I recon Labour will be thinking that they could win there, especially as the priorities have moved away from Brexit.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Sep 7, 2022
  • #20,734
Possibly better suited to the Ukraine thread, but relevant to U.K. politics and that thread pretty dead.

Russian “trolls” set up fake news site for village near Sunderland, then pivot it to Ukraine disinfo after amassing 18k followers.

 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 7, 2022
  • #20,735
fernandopartridge said:
Truss and her army of IEA and Tufton St advisors don't believe in the state. I assume that includes the state security services which they might need if mass unemployment and poverty (a very real prospect) hit.

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Wouldn’t be a Thatcher tribute act without a few riots.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Sep 7, 2022
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Given she campaigned on an anti woke platform they and their compliant anti woke right wing press ain’t half spent the morning bragging about reaching a quota of no white males in the top jobs and the most diverse cabinet ever assembled. It’s political correctness gone mad I tell you, the minority lefty liberal wokerarty elite win again.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 7, 2022
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shmmeee said:
Possibly better suited to the Ukraine thread, but relevant to U.K. politics and that thread pretty dead.

Russian “trolls” set up fake news site for village near Sunderland, then pivot it to Ukraine disinfo after amassing 18k followers.

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Technology scary sometimes
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 7, 2022
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skybluetony176 said:
Won at a time when the Tories were popular coupled with him being popular. Not saying isn’t a tall ask but I recon Labour will be thinking that they could win there, especially as the priorities have moved away from Brexit.
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Labour should be doing all they can to oust Big Dog.
 
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PVA

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  • Sep 7, 2022
  • #20,739
It's like they don't want to win the general election.

And to be honest, probably not a bad idea. Labour come in and have to pick up the pieces, like always, then Tories come back and campaign on Labour being the party of higher taxes = another 12 years in power
 

skybluetony176

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  • Sep 7, 2022
  • #20,740
PVA said:
It's like they don't want to win the general election.

And to be honest, probably not a bad idea. Labour come in and have to pick up the pieces, like always, then Tories come back and campaign on Labour being the party of higher taxes = another 12 years in power
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Funny, I had the exact same conversation with someone yesterday when they suggested that Truss is a sacrificial lamb, Labour will win the next general election to act as a sort of palette cleanser of blame from 14 years of the Tories, Boris to come back in as leader to win the following GE probably running on a pro EU ticket of some sort.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Sep 7, 2022
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CCFCSteve

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  • Sep 7, 2022
  • #20,742
Why has she ruled out windfall taxes immediately . At least say she will look into excessive profiteering.

Starmer should wipe the floor with her every week if this is anything to go by
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Sep 7, 2022
  • #20,743
She’s determined to have her poll tax moment in her first week.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Sep 7, 2022
  • #20,744
CCFCSteve said:
Why has she ruled out windfall taxes immediately . At least say she will look into excessive profiteering.

Starmer should wipe the floor with her every week if this is anything to go by
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It's idiotic but of course she will have most of the press and wider media on her side.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Sep 7, 2022
  • #20,745
CCFCSteve said:
Why has she ruled out windfall taxes immediately . At least say she will look into excessive profiteering.
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Expect a Telegraph article telling us how the elite rich are suffering too….
 
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shmmeee

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  • Sep 7, 2022
  • #20,746
Ian1779 said:
Expect a Telegraph article telling us how the elite rich are suffering too….
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Well we’ve had The Times one:

We’re swapping a £40k nanny for a £10k au pair: preparing for the cost of living squeeze

Like many mothers Jessica Keplinger, 38, is having to make changes because of the rising cost of living, changing her childcare arrangements, her car and her sh
www.thetimes.co.uk
 
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chiefdave

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  • Sep 7, 2022
  • #20,747
CCFCSteve said:
Starmer should wipe the floor with her every week if this is anything to go by
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Given how poorly she performs when she's just giving a pre-written speech PMQs should be a massacre every week.
 
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PVA

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  • Sep 7, 2022
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CCFCSteve said:
Why has she ruled out windfall taxes immediately . At least say she will look into excessive profiteering.

Starmer should wipe the floor with her every week if this is anything to go by
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Yep I think there will have to be a big U turn on that in the future.

I only saw bits of it. She was absolutely rubbish, but at least the whole thing was a bit more 'grown up' than the pathetic shambles that was PMQs with Johnson.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Sep 7, 2022
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shmmeee said:
Well we’ve had The Times one:

We’re swapping a £40k nanny for a £10k au pair: preparing for the cost of living squeeze

Like many mothers Jessica Keplinger, 38, is having to make changes because of the rising cost of living, changing her childcare arrangements, her car and her sh
www.thetimes.co.uk
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The I doing their bit as well, graduate moaning about having to live on £800 a week despite choosing to work part time. Rent and bills paid by his parents and no student debt as they also paid the fees.

Needed an app to tell him spending £250 a month on takeaways wasn't great money management.

A graduate, 21, on £800 a month using a money-saving app to curb his spending

'I have had to teach myself about things like budgeting and credit scores, because the education system does not cover such topics'
inews.co.uk
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Sep 7, 2022
  • #20,750
If she’s ruling out an exceptional tax on energy companies exceptional profits because she doesn’t want to hinder investment then surely she must have a guarantee of exceptional investment from the exceptional profits. Where is it?
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 7, 2022
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skybluetony176 said:
If she’s ruling out an exceptional tax on energy companies exceptional profits because she doesn’t want to hinder investment then surely she must have a guarantee of exceptional investment from the exceptional profits. Where is it?
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The pundits say the reality of that is it would only garner around £8B in take due to the shenanigans they can pull.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Sep 7, 2022
  • #20,752
Well G should be happy as we know have his fabled sixth-form debating society heading up PMQ's every week.

It was like having someone who's just attended their first A level economics lesson.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Sep 7, 2022
  • #20,753
wingy said:
The pundits say the reality of that is it would only garner around £8B in take due to the shenanigans they can pull.
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Doesn’t surprise me in the least, which only makes more mockery of it will stifle investment line. It clearly won’t.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Sep 7, 2022
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she was really shit at pmqs, just parroted the one nonsense line

she's out in 18 months top
 
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shmmeee

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  • Sep 7, 2022
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wingy said:
The pundits say the reality of that is it would only garner around £8B in take due to the shenanigans they can pull.
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This always seems to be the answer “oh taxing rich people is too hard, sorry”
 
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