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shmmeee

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,546
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Really think Johnson will be back before another election
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He’s current favourite for next Tory leader
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,547
Not sure this is politics, but really interesting population predictions coming out of China, shown here also happening in other countries.

 

skybluetony176

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,548
shmmeee said:
Not sure this is politics, but really interesting population predictions coming out of China, shown here also happening in other countries.

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I was reading that Australia is going to start letting in more people as they have a serious shortage of people of working age.
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,549
shmmeee said:
Not sure this is politics, but really interesting population predictions coming out of China, shown here also happening in other countries.

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Well mortality will no doubt shorten given the likelihood of reasonable treatment hardships etc ,then given all the signals towards the young why would you procreate.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,550
shmmeee said:
Not sure this is politics, but really interesting population predictions coming out of China, shown here also happening in other countries.

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It'd be interesting to see zoomed in when some of those countries peaked. The Eastern Bloc countries it's hard to see? The end of communism?
 

skybluetony176

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,551
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,552
shmmeee said:
He’s current favourite for next Tory leader
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however much you bet on him won’t bring him back shmmeee
 

SkyBlueCharlie9

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,553
Funny how Grenners and the other Tory right wingers are much quieter on here now Boris lad and tory party has imploded. Genuinely would like to know how they think Truss will perform and if not which candidate they would have picked from the leadership contest.
I think I guess why the old boy Tory councillors picked Truss over Sunak but just can't see her qualities
How long do you give before a General Election and would Starmer win it?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,554
SkyBlueCharlie9 said:
Funny how Grenners and the other Tory right wingers are much quieter on here now Boris lad and tory party has imploded. Genuinely would like to know how they think Truss will perform and if not which candidate they would have picked from the leadership contest.
I think I guess why the old boy Tory councillors picked Truss over Sunak but just can't see her qualities
How long do you give before a General Election and would Starmer win it?
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Priti Patel resigned every cloud
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,555
shmmeee said:
Not sure this is politics, but really interesting population predictions coming out of China, shown here also happening in other countries.

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Women to work revolution?
Obviously started long ago but maybe the full effect?
Folk singularly favouring possessions, wealth etc?
 

SkyBlueCharlie9

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,556
Interesting that Truss had a 1.5 year affair with fellow mp in 2006. Her children must have been tiny as now one of her teenagers doing GCSEs. Clasic Tory 'Back To Basics' family values.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,557
Just hearing that Truss is likely to be appointing favourites/loyalists for main cabinet roles and those that didn’t support her excluded or in diminished roles

If that’s the case…when will they learn ?! There’s a lot riding on Kwarteng…hopefully not Truss
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,558
CCFCSteve said:
Just hearing that Truss is likely to be appointing favourites/loyalists for main cabinet roles and those that didn’t support her excluded or in diminished roles

If that’s the case…when will they learn ?! There’s a lot riding on Kwarteng…hopefully not Truss
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Not twice surely . Wasn't Amber Rudd a bedfellow also.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,559
wingy said:
Not twice surely . Wasn't Amber Rudd a bedfellow also.
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Think he’s had a couple of ‘involvements’, not sure about Truss but definitely Rudd as you say
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,560
SkyBlueCharlie9 said:
Interesting that Truss had a 1.5 year affair with fellow mp in 2006. Her children must have been tiny as now one of her teenagers doing GCSEs. Clasic Tory 'Back To Basics' family values.
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He was the bloke who famously grabbed a protestor by the neck - it’s very common knowledge
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,561
CCFCSteve said:
There’s a lot riding on Kwarteng…hopefully not Truss
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That is way too good for this place
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,562
SkyBlueCharlie9 said:
Funny how Grenners and the other Tory right wingers are much quieter on here now Boris lad and tory party has imploded. Genuinely would like to know how they think Truss will perform and if not which candidate they would have picked from the leadership contest.
I think I guess why the old boy Tory councillors picked Truss over Sunak but just can't see her qualities
How long do you give before a General Election and would Starmer win it?
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I did say I would retire from the thread if she’s elected - she’s from a Corbynist family who once wanted to abolish the monarchy - its a reflection on politics - if Labour do not win an outright majority with her in charge then it’s truly a reflection on Starmer
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,563
Grendel said:
I did say I would retire from the thread if she’s elected - she’s from a Corbynist family who once wanted to abolish the monarchy - its a reflection on politics - if Labour do not win an outright majority with her in charge then it’s truly a reflection on Starmer
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I would imagine it's a chance for the nutters in charge of Labour to move the Party even more right.
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,564
Philosorapter said:
I would imagine it's a chance for the nutters in charge of Labour to move the Party even more right.
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I think it’s more likely to be the other way round and the red robbo tribute act Union man in the mockney accent is now the Tories only hope. A big Union general strike is what they need to get back support
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,565
Both parties are split like anything. This is what happens when you try to capture the fabled land of the centre ground.

Brexit was meant to bring a break from all this nonsense of managers running the country instead of ideologies.

Seems things have been sold down the river on all sides.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,566
Grendel said:
I think it’s more likely to be the other way round and the red robbo tribute act Union man in the mockney accent is now the Tories only hope. A big Union general strike is what they need to get back support
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I don't see how that can be seen as anything other than a government failure to act. One union here or there perhaps, but for so many sections of the workforce to all strike over the same issue reflects badly on the Tories, not the workers
 
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SomersetSB

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  • Sep 5, 2022
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Grendel

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,568
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I don't see how that can be seen as anything other than a government failure to act. One union here or there perhaps, but for so many sections of the workforce to all strike over the same issue reflects badly on the Tories, not the workers
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Go for the general strike it always defeats the Labour movement - I want it
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,569
Grendel said:
Go for the general strike it always defeats the Labour movement - I want it
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It's a bit hard to co-ordinate with how strong the anti union laws in this country are. I've said before, the teaching ballot will probably fail on turnout thresholds that are curiously never required for local or general elections, which also don't force people to vote by post.

At least you're honest anyway
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,570
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It's a bit hard to co-ordinate with how strong the anti union laws in this country are. I've said before, the teaching ballot will probably fail on turnout thresholds that are curiously never required for local or general elections, which also don't force people to vote by post.

At least you're honest anyway
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The public really don’t like left wing zealots like mick lynch - refuse all pay deals national strike - country in chaos - oh they are all are Labour Party members and guess what even the leader doesn’t want it
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,571
Grendel said:
The public really don’t like left wing zealots like mick lynch - refuse all pay deals national strike - country in chaos - oh they are all are Labour Party members and guess what even the leader doesn’t want it
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On the contrary I think most people who hear what he has to say end up thinking he's more reasonable than they were led to believe. He's made the media look daft questioning him plenty of times too.

Don't worry anyway, Truss wants to outlaw striking and would probably outlaw unions if she could. Fine for you approaching retirement but not for people with their working careers ahead and needing a mechanism to protect their working rights
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,572
Grendel said:
The public really don’t like left wing zealots like mick lynch - refuse all pay deals national strike - country in chaos - oh they are all are Labour Party members and guess what even the leader doesn’t want it
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You're out of touch with reality now. Things have moved on.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
 
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Ian1779

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,573
shmmeee said:
Not sure this is politics, but really interesting population predictions coming out of China, shown here also happening in other countries.

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I watched a documentary about world population growth suggesting there will be a big increase in Africa over next 50 years - looks like we will be hosting them in Europe to make up for population and workforce shortfall in the future.
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,574
fernandopartridge said:
You're out of touch with reality now. Things have moved on.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
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We shall see - especially if such an event occurs and Mr Starmer does not support it - which he won’t
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,575
Grendel said:
We shall see - especially if such an event occurs and Mr Starmer does not support it - which he won’t
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Which would confirm neither of the two main party leaders care about working people
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,576
Brighton Sky Blue said:
On the contrary I think most people who hear what he has to say end up thinking he's more reasonable than they were led to believe. He's made the media look daft questioning him plenty of times too.

Don't worry anyway, Truss wants to outlaw striking and would probably outlaw unions if she could. Fine for you approaching retirement but not for people with their working careers ahead and needing a mechanism to protect their working rights
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I was going to comment but I can’t be bothered
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,577
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Which would confirm neither of the two main party leaders care about working people
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What does working people mean? Doctors, solicitors or non professionals?
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,578
This is the first job I have ever had that has union representation and it’s fantastic, they are currently negotiating for us an inflation busting pay rise (this would never happen without them) they also keep idiot managers under control. It’s just a shame that more of the staff aren’t in it but fortunately the drivers are.

She can keep her hands off our union rights.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,579
Genuinely what the fuck

 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 5, 2022
  • #20,580
Grendel said:
What does working people mean? Doctors, solicitors or non professionals?
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...people who work.

Grendel said:
I was going to comment but I can’t be bothered
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Do you agree with her that striking should be banned?
 
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