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CCFCSteve

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,706
Ian1779 said:
Whether he had a good word to say about NATO or not - there was a clear manifesto commitment to stay part of it as well as continue our nuclear programme.
I don’t have a clue how to end this conflict, but we don’t appear to anywhere near a resolution currently - just in some never ending stalemate where people just die for no reason.
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I agree. It’s horrific and I’ve said before it might need more flexibility from Ukraine ie not trying to take back Crimea (that’s their call). I was just justifying why I called him a dangerous idiot. We all want peace I’m just not sure Corbyns way would ever have worked against people who appear willing to oversee raping and killing civilians

ps I think we’re all old enough to know how most manifesto promises pan out. I was talking about his personal beliefs
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,707
PVA said:
Well there is an awful lot of crossover between people who like Corbyn and people who don't like Starmer. That is a fact.

Doesn't mean that only people who like Corbyn don't like Starmer. And I've never said that.

And I do wish you'd stop calling me stupid given you're the most illiterate poster on this thread.
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You do realise that the crossover is politics and what people want. I don't like any politicians because of who they are, I like their politics.

That's different from you who seems to think it's a personality competition.
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,708
fernandopartridge said:
You do realise that the crossover is politics and what people want. I don't like any politicians because of who they are, I like their politics.

That's different from you who seems to think it's a personality competition.
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Exactly it’s all like a Love Island reality game to him
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,709
shmmeee said:
From:Al Mayadeen - Wikipedia

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Citation needed per the above
 

Ian1779

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,710
CCFCSteve said:
I agree. It’s horrific and I’ve said before it might need more flexibility from Ukraine ie not trying to take back Crimea (that’s their call). I was just justifying why I called him a dangerous idiot. We all want peace I’m just not sure Corbyns way would ever have worked against people who appear willing to oversee raping and killing civilians

ps I think we’re all old enough to know how most manifesto promises pan out. I was talking about his personal beliefs
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You may well be right - but we’ve seen more than enough evidence of our military intervention in Iraq/Afghanistan this century alone that have made things worse.
I’m not saying Corbyn is right about the pacifist way - in reality it doesn’t work when you are against lunatics - but this idea he is some kind of stooge/apologist for people like Putin is simply bullshit.
 

David O'Day

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,711
Ian1779 said:
Can you see the current conflict ending any other way which is horrific. Meanwhile Zelensky is doing cover shoots for Vogue
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and?
 

David O'Day

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,712
even the tories look at truss and say wtf

Sunak closing gap on Truss in Tory leadership contest, poll shows

Foreign secretary’s lead down to five points in latest poll of party members, after 24-point lead a fortnight ago
www.theguardian.com
 

Ian1779

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,713
David O'Day said:
and?
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You think that’s normal yes?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,714
Ian1779 said:
Can you see the current conflict ending any other way which is horrific. Meanwhile Zelensky is doing cover shoots for Vogue
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Well sadly Putin has forced the world’s hand on that one.
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,715
fernandopartridge said:
You do realise that the crossover is politics and what people want. I don't like any politicians because of who they are, I like their politics.

That's different from you who seems to think it's a personality competition.
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What the fuck?

If I thought it was a personality competition I'd have voted for Johnson and certainly wouldn't be keen on Starmer would I?

What a ludicrous statement.
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,716
Grendel said:
Exactly it’s all like a Love Island reality game to him
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Pathetic.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,717
PVA said:
What the fuck?

If I thought it was a personality competition I'd have voted for Johnson and certainly wouldn't be keen on Starmer would I?

What a ludicrous statement.
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What policies specifically attract you to Mr Starmer? List the top 3.
 

David O'Day

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,718
Ian1779 said:
You think that’s normal yes?
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yes
 

Ian1779

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,719
David O'Day said:
yes
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We’ll have to disagree on that one too.
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,720
Grendel said:
What policies specifically attract you to Mr Starmer? List the top 3.
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1. Lovely hair
2. He winds you up
3. He's not Boris Johnson/Liz Truss
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,721
PVA said:
1. Lovely hair
2. He winds you up
3. He's not Boris Johnson/Liz Truss
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oh dear
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,722
Grendel said:
oh dear
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What, you don't like his hair?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,723
PVA said:
What the fuck?

If I thought it was a personality competition I'd have voted for Johnson and certainly wouldn't be keen on Starmer would I?

What a ludicrous statement.
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You're the one who keeps talking about "liking" a certain politician you
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,724
PVA said:
What, you don't like his hair?
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PVA

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,725
fernandopartridge said:
You're the one who keeps talking about "liking" a certain politician you
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What on earth are you on about.

Enjoy being in opposition forever.
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,726
Grendel said:
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Hahah posting a clown emoji to fit in with the bigger boys, so transparent
 

Ian1779

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,727
PVA said:
Enjoy being in opposition forever.
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Don’t worry - thanks to your pal Keith you’ll be there with us to keep us company.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,728
PVA said:
What on earth are you on about.

Enjoy being in opposition forever.
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Once again showing that you just don't get it. A Labour government promising fuck all that I want is still in opposition to my beliefs anyway.
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,729
fernandopartridge said:
Citation needed per the above
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Just take a look at their website. It's so obviously pro Russian.
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,730
fernandopartridge said:
Once again showing that you just don't get it. A Labour government promising fuck all that I want is still in opposition to my beliefs anyway.
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Yes so like I said, enjoy being in opposition forever.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,731
PVA said:
Yes so like I said, enjoy being in opposition forever.
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Run on things that people want
Run on things that are also likely to work
Stick someone relatable on the front

Election won
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,732
PVA said:
Yes so like I said, enjoy being in opposition forever.
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So you're telling me I need to let go of my beliefs to support being in power, glad to have cleared up that you're already there
 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,733
Truss doing our relationship with Scotland no favours by saying we should just ignore nicola sturgeon .. the fucking glue sniffer
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,734
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Run on things that people want
Run on things that are also likely to work
Stick someone relatable on the front

Election won
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I don’t disagree with any of that at all.

Right now I think Labour is the best chance of getting that, or as close to it. Others don’t, that’s fine. But the vitriol from some people on the so called same team is pathetic.
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,735
fernandopartridge said:
So you're telling me I need to let go of my beliefs to support being in power, glad to have cleared up that you're already there
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It’s highly unlikely any of us, no matter your beliefs, will get an ideal candidate - someone who matches your beliefs perfectly - to vote for you. So you have to make some compromises (I held my nose and voted Corbyn).

Or you sit back and watch everything burn while moaning that so and so isn’t pure enough for you.
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,736
Or to put it more succinctly:


 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,737
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I don't like keir one bit , and I agree with this
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,738
Evo1883 said:
I don't like keir one bit , and I agree with this
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That’s exactly the point.

You don’t have to like Starmer at all. You just need to look at it and realise there are two options right now (and for the foreseeable): a Tory government or a Labour government. Which is likely to be better? No matter your thoughts on Starmer it’s clear to anyone (other than Tory headbangers) that a Labour government would be better for all of us than a Tory government. Maybe not better by as much as you’d like, and that’s fine, but it’d still be better.

So vote Labour, get a Labour government in, and then work on getting the Labour party more aligned to your beliefs rather than just bending over and taking a Tory government time after time because the current version of Labour isn’t exactly how you want it.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,739
PVA said:
Or to put it more succinctly:


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He didn't say that in 2019 the utter wanker
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #19,740
PVA said:
I don’t disagree with any of that at all.

Right now I think Labour is the best chance of getting that, or as close to it. Others don’t, that’s fine. But the vitriol from some people on the so called same team is pathetic.
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There’s no vitriol at all - you just think Starmer is beyond any kind of scrutiny that’s all.

To get the rid of the Tories you need a concerted and combined effort…something lost on Starmer strategists.
 
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