It will be interesting how he approaches it if Truss does win. I feel pretty sure he'll defend her against any Labour MP, regardless of how bad she is. He's defended Johnson enough.I think G’s point is Truss the probable winner does nothing for him. Which says a fair bit
Btw you criticise Biden a lot but never did Trump. Why is that?There are no attributes of liz truss
Johnson has the ability to engage people, have big visionary ideas and oddly win elections - you may not believe that but that’s my view. Not a career politician but a maverick one who can engage people
Donald trump I have and never have had interest in
This isn’t the point though. I ask what engages people to Mr Starmer
I have also stated if Rayner was labour leader against Truss I’d vote labour
Fair enough, though it's pretty odd to have chosen them for that single issue when you seem to fundamentally disagree with pretty much everything else they say. I seem to remember you've not been a fan of either Lucas or Bartley.Yes that green party - i liked their views on animal welfare - I was always disappointed that in the Cameron era the monster raving loonies weren’t in my constituency as I’d have voted for them
What three things convinve you of Sunak and Truss if either win? What three things convinced you about Johnson? And May before that?
EDIT: just seen you've sort of answered it, though unconvincingly.
Btw you criticise Biden a lot but never did Trump. Why is that?
I am not a fan of Biden by any means but he is still immeasurably better than Trump. But barring maybe some psychopath languishing in a jail somewhere anyone on the planet would have been better than Trump.
How does a windfall tax help somebody facing a 200% increase in energy costs?no the windfall tax but let's not let truth get in the way either
I answered your question.We live in the U.K.
and it seems you have no good points about Mr Starmer at all
Vision is obviously a good thing in a leader, in fact it's a prerequisite, especially for a Prime Minister. But that vision has to be practical and in the country's benefit. So what was Johnsin's big vision, other than getting power and privilege for himself? Any of the small scale impractical visionary things like the bridge between Scotland and Ireland or the Garden Bridge were disastrous wastes of money. Basically he had no grand vision at all, and that was part of the problem.There are no attributes of liz truss
Johnson has the ability to engage people, have big visionary ideas and oddly win elections - you may not believe that but that’s my view. Not a career politician but a maverick one who can engage people
Donald trump I have and never have had interest in
This isn’t the point though. I ask what engages people to Mr Starmer
I have also stated if Rayner was labour leader against Truss I’d vote labour
There is little vision left in politicians anymore, because that requires thinking beyond yourself and the immediate and about the next generation. Cost of living, climate emergency - pretty much all of them have nothing to offer us.Vision is obviously a good thing in a leader, in fact it's a prerequisite, especially for a Prime Minister. But that vision has to be practical and in the country's benefit. So what was Johnsin's big vision, other than getting power and privilege for himself? Any of the small scale impractical visionary things like the bridge between Scotland and Ireland or the Garden Bridge were disastrous wastes of money. Basically he had no grand vision at all, and that was part of the problem.
It will be interesting how he approaches it if Truss does win. I feel pretty sure he'll defend her against any Labour MP, regardless of how bad she is. He's defended Johnson enough.
Also interesting that an attribute he put for Johnson was big visionary ideas, yet other big visionary ideas he pours scorn on as unrealistic. Yet a bridge between Scotland and Ireland...
Interesting take
Is he actually Rayners lover?
Ha, ha Greendull once voted to stop fox hunting and save the lickle lambs.Yes that green party - i liked their views on animal welfare - I was always disappointed that in the Cameron era the monster raving loonies weren’t in my constituency as I’d have voted for them
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Shame nobody told the current lot that.and a governments job is to try to represent the country as a whole.
Shame nobody told the current lot that.
News to me!
Not sure what Prescott is trying to prove with this, Labour didn’t get into power for 11 years after that picture ?! ie it didn’t help with public support
Whether people agree with his stance or not, it’s obvious that Starmers trying to take an impartial position as probably half of the country are against the strikes and a governments job is to try to represent the country as a whole. He’s trying to demonstrate Labour would do this if in government
A shadow transport minister re-enforces that impartiality by going on the picket line…out of all the roles in shadow government you’d want to remain impartial on the subject
I’m no great fan of Starmer but with the Tories imploding, this is what he gets from his own side ?! It’s bizarre. There’s often talk about the Tories being some kind of election winning machine…almost laughable (seen the state of half of them ??)…maybe it’s more the case of Labour/left being election losing machine ? It’s currently an open goal and yet they have manage to manufacture some unnecessary infighting when their focus should be on the mess the Tories are in
7am in the litten tree?
A windfall tax or a VAT reduction is a drop on the ocean comparatively yet your man makes more noise about NOT renationalising this sector than any of these.it can be used to help people pay the bills
no one said it was the only policy needed including the labour party
but you know this and still post this shit
your more of a flying standard type?No thanks Dave it’s not my style - hope you enjoy your day there though
your more of a flying standard type?
Keir Starmer sacks Angela Rayner’s shadow minister boyfriend for joining rail strike picket line
Sam Tarry joined striking RMT workers at Euston Station, just weeks after the Labour leader banned frontbenchers from taking partwww.telegraph.co.uk
Did it fuck - Brexit was the only policy in town in 2019.You say that, appreciate half in jest, but ‘levelling up’ captured public imagination which helped Johnson at the last election. If they don’t deliver anything tangible in certain areas by the next election it will be another nail in the coffin
I’m talking about how parties present themselves to the public to get their support
I’m sorry Steve but if the leader of the Labour Party is too embarrassed for his MPs to appear publicly in support of working people that’s the worse look. The clue’s in the name.
Meanwhile Truss can talk about banning the right to strike altogether and that isn’t seen as an extreme position? Shows how far to the right the country has lurched
I genuinely have no idea what that is
Cool story grenners. Almost as bigger lie as when you told everyone I had made loads of pro IRA posts and you were going to dig them outone day. Still waiting for that, I guess like most things you say it was a lie.
Still i'd get help mate, drunk before 9am isn't a good look.
Did it fuck - Brexit was the only policy in town in 2019.
it really wasn't, people in the north believed that Johnson was going to spend more money in their communities.
Brexit played a massive part but so did pie in the sky spending plans.
That's the thing though - I don't think it was genuine. It was a slogan that would sell well. When you hear some of the people that know Johnson privately it'd come as no surprise to find out he doesn't want to level things up. He looks upon the working class with contempt.You say that, appreciate half in jest, but ‘levelling up’ captured public imagination which helped Johnson at the last election. If they don’t deliver anything tangible in certain areas by the next election it will be another nail in the coffin
I’m talking about how parties present themselves to the public to get their support
Cool story grenners. Almost as bigger lie as when you told everyone I had made loads of pro IRA posts and you were going to dig them outone day. Still waiting for that, I guess like most things you say it was a lie.
Still i'd get help mate, drunk before 9am isn't a good look.
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