David O'Day
Well-Known Member
Yep and so far there has been no real movement to end funding.
She was speaking not for them when she talked about removing funds.
Her job is to serve the wishes of her members.
It lost 2010 and 2015 from the centre, it isn't a guarantee of success and long term is a disaster. The last Labour government could have made fundamental changes but instead went with a load of 3rd way market driven rubbish, NHS internal markets, PFI, privatisation of services everywhere.
Who actually wants any more of that shit?
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Starmer says he still supports the right to strike, but he also openly said he didn't want the RMT strikes to happen and for MPs to stay away from the pickets. All the while Liz Truss has said she wants to crank up the anti union laws up another notch from already being some of the harshest in the first world and ban striking altogether.
There's a real open goal here for him. What actually is a union-it's the result of lots of working people collectively trying to improve their working conditions. If you're anti union, you're anti worker. He could be the one to change the narrative and say he's the one really on the side of all working people.
But as we've seen the preferred trend is to react to whatever narrative the Conservatives have chosen and play around it. Burnham needs to be leader pronto-someone get him a by election.
What he said was he wanted to govenrment to step in and end the strikes by getting round the table. Not quite the same. You’re like a hard left Daily Mail when it comes to Starmer.
Haha-not quite. He said in his recent Sky interview he didn’t want the strikes to happen and before that he tried to ban MPs from joining the pickets.
Labour should stop being ashamed of the organisations that founded it and still donate a huge chunk of its funding. If that’s hard left then Corbz me up
Don’t think the RMT are affiliated. He said he wants it resolved:
Well at least we're doing better than Russia.
Brexit is a big factor in the state of the economy. Of course it is.
You can't look at this and say otherwise
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Oops, red on red war already beginning on here and not even a sniff of an election yet. Wait until the PR is in full swing and then you can all look forward to another 5 years of Conservative rule, whilst you contine arguing on here about what could've been done differently. Any idea what page number this thread will he on then?
Oops, red on red war already beginning on here and not even a sniff of an election yet. Wait until the PR is in full swing and then you can all look forward to another 5 years of Conservative rule, whilst you contine arguing on here about what could've been done differently. Any idea what page number this thread will he on then?
If that were true I'd get it more, but all I see on the past few pages, is arguing over who is left, who is centrist and how much you do or don't like startmer and some irrelevant references to Corbyn still thrown about. A bit like the party it's more of 'well at least we're not them' rather than 'this is what we think we should do'.Thats what happens when people have beliefs that stretch beyond forelock tugging and tax cuts
I don't remember him tbh so don't understand the reference, I'm guessing uncomplimentary, but no, disappointingly for you all, one username, always been me.Were you skybluedom in a former life?
You’re so rightIf that were true I'd get it more, but all I see on the past few pages, is arguing over who is left, who is centrist and how much you do or don't like startmer and some irrelevant references to Corbyn still thrown about. A bit like the party it's more of 'well at least we're not them' rather than 'this is what we think we should do'.
Or "Mick's Going to Lynch Ya" with a pic of him doing an evil stare"Don't flinch...its Mick Lynch"
....should be on a tee shirt.
They used to be but pulled it in the Miliband years. Unite however are certainly affiliated and he laughed at them-can always post that unfortunate clip again. The leader of the Labour Party should be pro union and thus pro worker-the clue’s in the name.
Still they won a great result despite having no support from the party and a Labour council working against them.
Oops, red on red war already beginning on here and not even a sniff of an election yet. Wait until the PR is in full swing and then you can all look forward to another 5 years of Conservative rule, whilst you contine arguing on here about what could've been done differently. Any idea what page number this thread will he on then?
There’s a difference between being pro workers rights and always getting involved in every dispute on the workers side. Politicians job is to set the rules not get in the game. If you want picket lines and protests go to the millions of organisations designed for that. Polticial parties are there to win and wield power, not protest those with it.
There’s a difference between being pro workers rights and always getting involved in every dispute on the workers side. Politicians job is to set the rules not get in the game. If you want picket lines and protests go to the millions of organisations designed for that. Polticial parties are there to win and wield power, not protest those with it.
If that were true I'd get it more, but all I see on the past few pages, is arguing over who is left, who is centrist and how much you do or don't like startmer and some irrelevant references to Corbyn still thrown about. A bit like the party it's more of 'well at least we're not them' rather than 'this is what we think we should do'.
Point of order, I thought politicians were elected to serve the public?
They are. That doesn’t mean turning up at your workplace to give you a pep talk. It means making sure laws are passed that are beneficial to the public.
They are. That doesn’t mean turning up at your workplace to give you a pep talk. It means making sure laws are passed that are beneficial to the public.
“beginning”
Is this your first time meeting Labour supporters?
Well they abstain on those too.
How many votes have Labour abstained on where they could’ve changed the outcome?
Not sure I follow the logic of this. Any vote they aren't going to win they just shouldn't bother with? Surely that's just giving the government a stick to beat them with. Anything that goes wrong the response will be 'you didn't vote against it' and you'll be seen as a weak and ineffective opposition.How many votes have Labour abstained on where they could’ve changed the outcome?
labour been calling for more support for about a year now, the tories even nicked one of their ideas
It’s a genuine question BSB, the only one that comes to mind was the covid tiers. Did you want him to vote them down?
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