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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,621
Deleted member 5849 said:
This where you come over all Socialist, Steve?
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It could well be enough to drive me into Starmers arms…not quite sure that’s coming over all socialist though. I just think she’ll be shambles

Ps if you vote for Truss ahead of Sunak/Mordant I’m sticking you on ignore
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,622
CCFCSteve said:
Someone did a dirty protest on the ballot paper ?! Johnson ?
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Still time for Sunak to miss out then. He's not picked up dramatically from his starting point.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,623
shmmeee said:
Tory Membership are Batshit Latest:

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I’m holding out hope that 775 isn’t a true representative sample size
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,624
CCFCSteve said:
I’m holding out hope that 775 isn’t a true representative sample size
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Surely even their membership when they see her in action over an extended period would change their minds?

Can't even waffle pompously and pseudo intellectually like Johnson!
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,625
Deleted member 5849 said:
Still time for Sunak to miss out then. He's not picked up dramatically from his starting point.
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This really is why politicians are ultimately useless

If a zombie CEO was looking at power as the shareholders rather like them the Board would have a word and say they’d all resign and call a no confidence motion

No party on the planet should have ever elected Corbyn or should Truss but I guess I’ll enjoy the tax breaks for a couple of years - perhaps she can promise the SDP a referendum in 2025 and get them onside
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,626
Deleted member 5849 said:
Still time for Sunak to miss out then. He's not picked up dramatically from his starting point.
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He should be comfortably in the final two but they’ll be a massive Johnson gang push for members to vote Truss (who I think will get through). As I mentioned yesterday rumours that Patel and Wallace might come out in support of Truss either before tomorrows vote or if Truss gets to final two. Wallace would be big as he’s well thought of by members according to previous polling
 

Otis

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,627
shmmeee said:
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I reckon the one spoiled paper was Truss.
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,628
Shame Sunak doesn't need more votes at this point.
Makes it easier to manipulate the remainder into either of the other two's camp I think.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,629
Grendel said:
This really is why politicians are ultimately useless

If a zombie CEO was looking at power as the shareholders rather like them the Board would have a word and say they’d all resign and call a no confidence motion

No party on the planet should have ever elected Corbyn or should Truss but I guess I’ll enjoy the tax breaks for a couple of years - perhaps she can promise the SDP a referendum in 2025 and get them onside
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She's buddying up with Roy Jenkins?!?

(Although tbf that is her background!)
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,630

Tugendhat votes broke more for Truss than Mordaunt, not looking good for Mordaunt now.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,631
chiefdave said:
We're going to end up with the Thatcher tribute act as PM aren't we
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Yep, been saying it since the start.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,632
wingy said:
Shame Sunak doesn't need more votes at this point.
Makes it easier to manipulate the remainder into either of the other two's camp I think.
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Can’t see him picking up many from Badenoch, certainly not enough to lend Mordaunt a few.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,633
Sick Boy said:
Yep, been saying it since the start.
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Well you said it would be a coronation abs Sunak would stand down
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,634
Grendel said:
Well you said it would be a coronation abs Sunak would stand down
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It still wouldn’t surprise me but regardless, I think it’ll end up being Truss.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,635
Sick Boy said:
It still wouldn’t surprise me but regardless, I think it’ll end up being Truss.
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She'll beat Sunak if she get's to the membership. If she does massive party in Labour HQ

Not that Sunak would be much better
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,636
David O'Day said:
She'll beat Sunak if she get's to the membership. If she does massive party in Labour HQ

Not that Sunak would be much better
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Truss is so bad I don't even want her for a year or two before an election.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,637
Deleted member 5849 said:
Truss is so bad I don't even want her for a year or two before an election.
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oh she'll be a disaster
 

clint van damme

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,638
shmmeee said:
So weird how a Remain voting former Lib Dem is the darling of the Tory right.
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Will embolden the 2nd referendum brigade, (they're already saying if she can change her mind why can't everyone else).

Make Brexit the big(ger) issue again - maybe, just a guess.
 

Otis

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,639
clint van damme said:
Will embolden the 2nd referendum brigade, (they're already saying if she can change her mind why can't everyone else).

Make Brexit the big(ger) issue again - maybe, just a guess.
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It will be Brexit - The Ultimate Edition
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,640
David O'Day said:
oh she'll be a disaster
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She’ll be a puppet for Boris.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,641
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,642
skybluetony176 said:
She’ll be a puppet for Boris.
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A puppet for the ERG more likely but they are equally stupid

Imagine her at PMQs
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,643
skybluetony176 said:
She’ll be a puppet for Boris.
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Boris doesn’t care enough to have a puppet. Boris was the puppet.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,644
Deleted member 5849 said:
Truss is so bad I don't even want her for a year or two before an election.
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Surely it'll all fall apart quicker than that?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,645
Deleted member 9744 said:
Surely it'll all fall apart quicker than that?
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But the damage in the meantime could be great. And do you want her in charge of any crises coming up?
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,646
Deleted member 5849 said:
But the damage in the meantime could be great. And do you want her in charge of any crises coming up?
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it's OK, she'll power dress and get her picture taken on a tank, that'll sort things.
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,647
Deleted member 5849 said:
But the damage in the meantime could be great. And do you want her in charge of any crises coming up?
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It's a tricky one. But the country is already totally fucked so another year or so is probably worth it if it results in significant change for the better
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 19, 2022
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PVA said:
It's a tricky one. But the country is already totally fucked so another year or so is probably worth it if it results in significant change for the better
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Call me old fashioned, but I want to vote on competent leaders, and it be about policy and ideology.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,649
wingy said:
Shame Sunak doesn't need more votes at this point.
Makes it easier to manipulate the remainder into either of the other two's camp I think.
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Yeah, it’s been said by a couple of presenters on LBC tonight that he’s got his supporters voting for Truss as he’d rather face her than Mordant in final two.

Can understand where he’s coming from, from a personal perspective so would I if I was him (although disagree with tactical voting), but that’s a massive risk for the rest of us !
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,650
CCFCSteve said:
Yeah, it’s been said by a couple of presenters on LBC tonight that he’s got his supporters voting for Truss as he’d rather face her than Mordant in final two.

Can understand from where he’s coming from, from a personal perspective, but that’s a massive risk for the rest of us !
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Surely, *surely* he makes mincemeat of her in any debate?!?
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,651
Deleted member 5849 said:
Call me old fashioned, but I want to vote on competent leaders, and it be about policy and ideology.
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Well yes, but doesn't matter whether it's Truss or Johnson - the Tory leader is not competent.

Truss is utterly hopeless, but I don't see things being any worse under her than Johnson (can they get any worse!?).

So I'll happily trade a year of Truss for a significant positive change afterwards.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,652
PVA said:
Well yes, but doesn't matter whether it's Truss or Johnson - the Tory leader is not competent.
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Sunak appears to be competent.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,653
Deleted member 5849 said:
Surely, *surely* he makes mincemeat of her in any debate?!?
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You’d think so but heard the voting papers are sent out before a lot of the hustings take place so loads could vote on current views…which is not good for Sunak !
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,654
CCFCSteve said:
You’d think so but heard the voting papers are sent out before a lot of the hustings take place so loads could vote on current views…which is not good for Sunak !
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Well what's the point of that?!?

They always surprised me - just when I think they can't find a worse leader...
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 19, 2022
  • #18,655
Deleted member 5849 said:
Sunak appears to be competent.
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Yes so he's more likely to win the next election than Truss!

And the country could really, really, do without another Tory government.

So I'll take a year of Truss in exchange for a Labour victory in the next election.
 
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