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PVA · Jul 17, 2022

I said a crushing defeat under Liz Truss. Because she is that useless.

I said the reputation is damaged. That is a fact. A prime minister with an 80 seat majority has just been forced out for that very reason. If you don't think the reputation has been damaged then that's up to you, but it quite clearly has.

If an election was held tomorrow then it would be a big Labour majority.

An election in a year or two, who knows, long way to go. But as of right now I would still predict a Labour majority.

Brighton Sky Blue · Jul 17, 2022

Grendel said:
I flounder?

You make a statement that the reputation is damaged and yesterday there would be a crushing defeat

Now you don’t see to even be able to express a view how that will manifest itself in parliament

I’ve said what I think will happen - a minority government which labour will need the support of several other parties - that’s not floundering that’s a view based on what I see

So what’s your view for the next election outcome - you must have one from the evidence around you?

I don't see how you can predict that with any certainty when the leader is unknown and there's still 2 years left to play.

Grendel · Jul 17, 2022

Brighton Sky Blue said:
I don't see how you can predict that with any certainty when the leader is unknown and there's still 2 years left to play.

prediction isn’t certainty but based on the fact the Tories are probably at their lowest ebb since the death throes of the major administration and there is no real support for Starmer himself I don’t see a labour majority at all - however inflation kills governments so whoever leads tbe tories is unlikely to gain a majority

Brighton Sky Blue · Jul 17, 2022

Grendel said:
prediction isn’t certainty but based on the fact the Tories are probably at their lowest ebb since the death throes of the major administration and there is no real support for Starmer himself I don’t see a labour majority at all - however inflation kills governments so whoever leads tbe tories is unlikely to gain a majority

Starmer has taken the by election results as evidence of a Labour recovery-they were anti Johnson protest votes. He has also openly abandoned his leadership pledges using Covid as an excuse.

It's a wide open goal and he's dithering in front of it more than the CCFC forward line

Grendel · Jul 17, 2022

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Starmer has taken the by election results as evidence of a Labour recovery-they were anti Johnson protest votes. He has also openly abandoned his leadership pledges using Covid as an excuse.

It's a wide open goal and he's dithering in front of it more than the CCFC forward line

There’s every chance he will be prime minister of a minority government but you look at Sunak and his economic strategy and Rachel Reeves and as of yet is their a massive difference? Can’t see it myself

Brighton Sky Blue · Jul 17, 2022

Grendel said:
There’s every chance he will be prime minister of a minority government but you look at Sunak and his economic strategy and Rachel Reeves and as of yet is their a massive difference? Can’t see it myself

I suppose he can use there being no ties to a corrupt administration but he'll need to come up with a more inspiring vision than that. Sunak can in return say 'I'm rich so trust me with the cash'

Grendel · Jul 17, 2022

Brighton Sky Blue said:
I suppose he can use there being no ties to a corrupt administration but he'll need to come up with a more inspiring vision than that. Sunak can in return say 'I'm rich so trust me with the cash'

Reeves is worth £100 million isnt she?

Brighton Sky Blue · Jul 17, 2022

Grendel said:
Reeves is worth £100 million isnt she?

Well if she is she can use the same argument

Ian1779 · Jul 17, 2022

Grendel said:
Reeves is worth £100 million isnt she?

Probably - in her case there is fuck all correlation between worth and talent.

SBT · Jul 17, 2022

Get Brexit re-done lmao

David O'Day · Jul 17, 2022

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Well if she is she can use the same argument

Interview with Rachel Reeves | Investors Fresh News - News Digest for Investors

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she's not

skybluetony176 · Jul 17, 2022

SBT said:
Get Brexit re-done lmao

But but but Boris got brexit done. Didn’t he?

clint van damme · Jul 17, 2022

SBT said:
Get Brexit re-done lmao

It's all just vacuous rhetoric. None of them really have a clue.

SBT · Jul 17, 2022

Just wait until Starmer counters with “Education, education, education (education)”

Grendel · Jul 17, 2022

David O'Day said:
Interview with Rachel Reeves | Investors Fresh News - News Digest for Investors

web.archive.org

she's not

She’s not what David it can’t be from what I’ve said as you have me on ignore

Deleted member 5849 · Jul 17, 2022

Grendel said:
I didn’t as I caveated it with the fact that the questions were skewed

If it’s reputation is trashed you mean surely there is irreparable damage similar to the end of the labour administration in the late 70’s and therefore a failure to gain office for several years or the blood letting following the fall of Major?

Your statement implies surely years in tbe wilderness - do you think that’s going to happen?

I don't think it will the next election, but who's in charge after that will be key...

Grendel said:
prediction isn’t certainty but based on the fact the Tories are probably at their lowest ebb since the death throes of the major administration and there is no real support for Starmer himself I don’t see a labour majority at all - however inflation kills governments so whoever leads tbe tories is unlikely to gain a majority

And on that note... I'd be surprised, given our electoral system, if the Conservatives would lose their 80 seat majority enough to end up in opposition... unless they double down and elect Liz Truss. She's like Boris Johnson without the charisma!

skybluetony176 · Jul 17, 2022

Truss has turned up the Thatcher voice to 11.

wingy · Jul 17, 2022

Developing a very waggy pointy finger.

Brighton Sky Blue · Jul 17, 2022

Rishi is accusing everyone of being Corbyn in disguise

PVA · Jul 17, 2022

Truss when talking

Brighton Sky Blue · Jul 17, 2022

Badenoch wants to be ‘onside with the unions’

skybluetony176 · Jul 17, 2022

wingy said:
Developing a very waggy pointy finger.

She’s had a different hand gesture for each question. I recon she’s practicing shadow puppetry.

Otis · Jul 17, 2022

Ha..

It does make me laugh. Only a few weeks ago all the Tories were saying how they had done such a good job and were bigging up their record and success.

Now all of a sudden, everything seems to be wrong.

There was a vote of confidence in the PM a few weeks ago and they voted for Boris. Now all of a sudden no-one would even have him in their cabinet.

Politicians.. they don't half make me laugh.

Otis · Jul 17, 2022

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Badenoch wants to be ‘onside with the unions’

It's all fine. Once the unions understand the government is on their side everything will be all hunky dory

clint van damme · Jul 17, 2022

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Badenoch wants to be ‘onside with the unions’

I can think of someone else who told that lie

wingy · Jul 17, 2022

Boris would give everyone 5%.
Sounds like they're all interviewing for the Chancellor role.

skybluetony176 · Jul 17, 2022

Back to pointing.

SIR ERNIE · Jul 17, 2022

Why are the Conservative Party allowing themselves to be involved in this lefty media driven circus?

skybluetony176 · Jul 17, 2022

Apparently Truss (in certain Conservative members polls) is polling to win. How?

Otis · Jul 17, 2022

Liz Truss is a repetitive robot

wingy · Jul 17, 2022

They're all ditching the ERM mantra bar 1.

skybluetony176 · Jul 17, 2022

Truss wants to take credit for copy and pasting the EU’s homework on the Japan trade deal and wants to pretend that Australia trade deal is good, which of course it isn’t.

stay_up_skyblues · Jul 17, 2022

Sunak has to be related to Will McKenzie.

wingy · Jul 17, 2022

They're all attacking Sunak for essentially supporting folk through the pandemic which ultimately will guarantee whether they are elected or not next time around .

PVA · Jul 17, 2022

Mordaunt is a lot worse at this than I expected.

Sunak probably the least worse tonight.

He's just too smarmy which grates.

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