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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (19 Viewers)

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,746
Grendel said:
You really are ridiculous

Flag waving appeals to your previous red wall even Starmer isn’t stupid enough not to realise he has to have a Union Jack next to him whenever he is photographed - if you ran the Labour Party they’d get less votes than the monster raving looney party - you’d alienate key voters in a second
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The video hardly featured the candidate it was meant to promote-is that considered genius strategy?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,747
Grendel said:
Again you are trying to be angry about something that doesn’t exist

Javid vs hunt or shapps he would win very easily - given the party you support is a bastion of white and predominantly male representatives in key positions I think you need to look closer to home for what you are seeking
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Islamophobia doesn't exist in the Tory party-got it. I'm not a partisan hack either-no party is getting my vote at the moment
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,748
shmmeee said:
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View attachment 25279
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I'll try and find it, it was on Twitter
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,749
PVA said:
Well at least she speaks competently and coherently, and is able to put an argument across, unlike Johnson.

Just a shame that the actual content is absolute guff as what she denies was proven to have happened in a court of law.

Another lying Tory. Shock.
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Er its the end of the video I am referring to? Anyway whatever - Go on go and play with some tanks you know you like it during break time
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,750
Shapps has pulled out and backs Sunak, Raab backs Sunak.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,751
Rees-Mogg and Dorries think that Truss who campaigned and voted for remain is a true brexiteer. The fantasy continues.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,752
Apparently Suella Braverman isn’t going to get 20 backers so looks like she’s out.
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,753
Grendel said:
Er its the end of the video I am referring to? Anyway whatever - Go on go and play with some tanks you know you like it during break time
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It's amazing that you constantly accuse people of being ridiculous or of debating like children yet you post shit like this. Your lack of self awareness is astonishing.
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,754
skybluetony176 said:
Rees-Mogg and Dorries think that Truss who campaigned and voted for remain is a true brexiteer. The fantasy continues.
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The mental gymnastics the contenders and their backers are going through is quite something.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,755
PVA said:
It's amazing that you constantly accuse people of being ridiculous or of debating like children yet you post shit like this. Your lack of self awareness is astonishing.
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I am engaging at the level of the audience
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,756
Who cares about the cost of living crisis or the NHS.

Ben & Jerry's being woke is what the public really wants to hear about


 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,757
Grendel said:
I am engaging at the level of the audience
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The fact that you think everyone ends up talking like a child to you says much more about you than it does everyone else.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,758
PVA said:
Who cares about the cost of living crisis or the NHS.

Ben & Jerry's being woke is what the public really wants to hear about


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Well Starmer doesn’t - he’d rather waste parliament time with a vote of no confidence rather than discussing actual issues
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,759
PVA said:
The fact that you think everyone ends up talking like a child to you says much more about you than it does everyone else.
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Who ends up talking like a child to me? Even the left side of this forum laugh at your Starmer hero worship. The great orator lol
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,760
Grendel said:
Who ends up talking like a child to me? Even the left side of this forum laugh at your Starmer hero worship. The great orator lol
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The hard left don't like Starmer? Wow what a stunning revelation, so glad you pointed that out

You've accused just about everyone in this thread of being ridiculous or debating like a 6th former
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,761
PVA said:
The hard left don't like Starmer? Wow what a stunning revelation, so glad you pointed that out
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I really would describe @fernandopartridge @Ian1779 and @Brighton Sky Blue as the hard left - you are just a walking cliche
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,762
Grendel said:
I really would describe @fernandopartridge @Ian1779 and @Brighton Sky Blue as the hard left - you are just a walking cliche
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'Hard left' meaning what exactly
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,763
Brighton Sky Blue said:
'Hard left' meaning what exactly
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Oh you are very liberal there’s one actual socialist on this forum and one whose close to it.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,764
Grendel said:
Oh you are very liberal there’s one actual socialist on this forum and one whose close to it.
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Oh go on, who are they?

(You and Steve?)
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,765
wingy said:
Which one wil expel Mo Farah ?
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No one according to the article.
As he was a child.
I read an article yesterday regards a woman who was granted residency aged 8 from the West Indies.
28 years old she gave birth to a child about a year ago and has been told she can't bring it back.
Unless I misread it appeared that they were suggesting to separate the two as by implication the mother could return and consequently provide for the child upbringing /care remotely


Sir Mo Farah reveals he was trafficked to the UK aged nine under name of another child

The Olympic star was warned speaking out could put his British citizenship at real risk - but it is understood the Home Office is taking no action against him given that he was a child when the trafficking took place
www.skysports.com
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,766
PVA said:
The hard left don't like Starmer? Wow what a stunning revelation, so glad you pointed that out

You've accused just about everyone in this thread of being ridiculous or debating like a 6th former
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I don't think shmmeee thinks much of him either and he's not exactly hard left
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,767
Grendel said:
I really would describe @fernandopartridge @Ian1779 and @Brighton Sky Blue as the hard left - you are just a walking cliche
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I prefer comrade.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,768
Grendel said:
sigh

I was going to say a few token black faces to make the party look inclusive - should I have said that?
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Yes, “ethnics” is an outdated and condescending term, so best not to use that.
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,769
fernandopartridge said:
I don't think shmmeee thinks much of him either and he's not exactly hard left
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I think he's been pretty positive about him as far as I can see.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,770
Grendel said:
Oh you are very liberal there’s one actual socialist on this forum and one whose close to it.
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What does it mean though? Is it really 'hard left' to want less VAT, higher minimum wage, more spent on education etc?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,771
Doesn’t sound like Javid is going to make the first fence.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,772
skybluetony176 said:
Doesn’t sound like Javid is going to make the first fence.
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The only one who resigns from the government on principle can't get enough MPs behind him. Not quite sure what that says!
 

clint van damme

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,773
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What does it mean though? Is it really 'hard left' to want less VAT, higher minimum wage, more spent on education etc?
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I think it shows how much we've lurched to the right when you see some of the stuff been described as hard left or Marxist.
I don't consider myself a socialist really, I just think some of this rampant neo liberalism needs reigning in there needs to be a program of renationalisation in some industries.

I mean, take water for example, is wanting money spent on infrastructure so shit isn't getting poured in to our rivers and coasts a left wing idea of is not bathing in shit just better than bathing in shit?!
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,774
skybluetony176 said:
Doesn’t sound like Javid is going to make the first fence.
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I think it'll be Sunak v Truss or Mordaunt, with whichever of those last two gets through going on to win
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,775
PVA said:
It's amazing that you constantly accuse people of being ridiculous or of debating like children yet you post shit like this. Your lack of self awareness is astonishing.
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He likes to fantasise about me in some sort of homoerotic situation. Pretty sure he thinks it’s an insult but not being homophonic I just find it amusing and telling about his own negative, outdated views on homosexuality.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,776
PVA said:
I think it'll be Sunak v Truss or Mordaunt, with whichever of those last two gets through going on to win
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I don’t know, I’m starting to think it’s Truss vs Sunak or Mordaunt. Camp Boris is clearly lining up behind Truss and I think that might be enough to see her through to the final 2, the ERG might be the difference in selecting who faces Truss and if David Davis is anything to go by they’re going to back Mordaunt.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,777
Latest poling amongst members indicate Sunak can’t win against anyone, well not anyone he’s going to face in the final two, should he himself get there.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,778
Pritti awful not standing, confirmed.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,779
skybluetony176 said:
I don’t know, I’m starting to think it’s Truss vs Sunak or Mordaunt. Camp Boris is clearly lining up behind Truss and I think that might be enough to see her through to the final 2, the ERG might be the difference in selecting who faces Truss and if David Davis is anything to go by they’re going to back Mordaunt.
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I see he said that Mordaunt was 'popular in Scotland and with young people'. Genuinely who had heard of her before this week?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,780
clint van damme said:
I think it shows how much we've lurched to the right when you see some of the stuff been described as hard left or Marxist.
I don't consider myself a socialist really, I just think some of this rampant neo liberalism needs reigning in there needs to be a program of renationalisation in some industries.

I mean, take water for example, is wanting money spent on infrastructure so shit isn't getting poured in to our rivers and coasts a left wing idea of is not bathing in shit just better than bathing in shit?!
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The threshold to be called 'far right' seems to always be much higher. Like you have to be in Nick Griffin or Britain First territory, whereas to be called hard left you have to not want Mick Lynch ritually sacrificed on train tracks
 
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