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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,711
skybluetony176 said:
Don’t forget the convicted murderer.
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Incredibly it seems a video where the candidate hardly features but somebody narrates over some flag waving is enough to send her into pole position with the membership.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,712
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Look at the polling more closely. It wasn't about race but Javid's Muslim heritage.
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Fair point
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,713
PVA said:
Aw diddums, someone holding your boys in blue to account and you don't like it
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Oh dear. It seems the crèche is closed today and you are out early

Can’t you get your toy tanks and spend the day chatting to yourself on the ukraine thread and leave this one for adults for a change?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,714
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Incredibly it seems a video where the candidate hardly features but somebody narrates over some flag waving is enough to send her into pole position with the membership.
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Whose second?
 
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Northants Sky Blue

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,715
Local Tory members over here questioning Mordaunt's Pro-Trans/Green/Globalist beliefs have been assured she'll fight the woke wars!

 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,716
Grendel said:
Whose second?
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I take it you've not actually looked into the 2019 polling. No problem
 

chiefdave

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,717
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Incredibly it seems a video where the candidate hardly features but somebody narrates over some flag waving is enough to send her into pole position with the membership.
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A video that has to keep being edited because they've used clips without permission, its the kind of attention to detail that stands you out as a future PM. Interestingly the shots of Portsmouth, where she is an MP, are all from Portsmouth South, which is Labour
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,718
skybluetony176 said:
Longest period of continuous growth in UK history, I see your point.
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The sad reality is though that wage growth was terrible, I saw a stat yesterday on twitter and real wages growth slowed from the postwar trajectory by 2000 in the UK and has never recovered
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,719
Grendel said:
Oh dear. It seems the crèche is closed today and you are out early

Can’t you get your toy tanks and spend the day chatting to yourself on the ukraine thread and leave this one for adults for a change?
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Wow creche jokes, a bit more original than school jokes I guess

I posted that Labour are tabling a motion of no confidence. Do you not think that is worthy of discussion?

And I'm not surprised you've left the Ukraine thread after embarrassing yourself multiple times over.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,720
chiefdave said:
A video that has to keep being edited because they've used clips without permission, its the kind of attention to detail that stands you out as a future PM. Interestingly the shots of Portsmouth, where she is an MP, are all from Portsmouth South, which is Labour
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I thought it was stuff like this that really won the voters over

 

stupot07

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,721
How the hell have the Tories managed to do this with all the austerity and cutting back the 'expensive' state. The party of good financial governance...maybe in fiction only.

I wonder where all the money has gone..


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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,722
stupot07 said:
How the hell have the Tories managed to do this with all the austerity and cutting back the 'expensive' state. The party of good financial governance...maybe in fiction only.

I wonder where all the money has gone..


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Well again they will point to the pandemic and they would have a point
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,723
This game still exists from 2017, Corbyn dressed as Obi Wan and casting spells at bankers. See for yourself

General Election Game (general-election-game.co.uk)
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,724
stupot07 said:
How the hell have the Tories managed to do this with all the austerity and cutting back the 'expensive' state. The party of good financial governance...maybe in fiction only.

I wonder where all the money has gone..


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I saw a graph yesterday of annual spending on the NHS.

Just a constant decline year on year from 2010 onwards.

Can’t possibly imagine what happened in 2010.

Never mind all the scandals, it’s stuff like that that should be enough for people to say time to these out of office
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,725
stupot07 said:
How the hell have the Tories managed to do this with all the austerity and cutting back the 'expensive' state. The party of good financial governance...maybe in fiction only.

I wonder where all the money has gone..


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it's because their policies reduce the tax take and increase non discretionary spending
 

oakey

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,726
The Tories being more diverse - sex and race is nonsense
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn01156/
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,727
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I take it you've not actually looked into the 2019 polling. No problem
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Again you are trying to be angry about something that doesn’t exist

Javid vs hunt or shapps he would win very easily - given the party you support is a bastion of white and predominantly male representatives in key positions I think you need to look closer to home for what you are seeking
 
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oakey

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,728

Gender balance in politics | Institute for Government

This explainer takes a closer look at how women are represented in parliament, cabinet, among ministers and special advisers.
www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk

25% Tory MPs women
52% Labour MPs women
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,729
oakey said:
The Tories being more diverse - sex and race is nonsense
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn01156/
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That’s hardly supporting the argument is it? Ethnics and women can get in the Labour Party but if you want a crack at the top job be a Tory?
 

oakey

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,730
Of the 65 ethnic minority Members, 41 (63%) are Labour and 22 are Conservatives (34%).

Ref. from first link above
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,731
oakey said:
Of the 65 ethnic minority Members, 41 (63%) are Labour and 22 are Conservatives (34%).

Ref. from first link above
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Also see above ok to sit at the back bit that’s it really
 

oakey

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,732
Grendel said:
That’s hardly supporting the argument is it? Ethnics and women can get in the Labour Party but if you want a crack at the top job be a Tory?
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Well Labour have more women and ethnic minorities on their front bench but I suspect the dinosaur "Labour should represent the working man" attitudes hold Labour back.
You only have to read this thread to see "old fashioned" attitudes to women are still prevalent on the left. And the idea that "red wall" voters wont want Lammy, Abbott etc
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,733
fernandopartridge said:
The sad reality is though that wage growth was terrible, I saw a stat yesterday on twitter and real wages growth slowed from the postwar trajectory by 2000 in the UK and has never recovered
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?

 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,734
Grendel said:
That’s hardly supporting the argument is it? Ethnics and women can get in the Labour Party but if you want a crack at the top job be a Tory?
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“ethnics”

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Grendel

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,735
shmmeee said:
“ethnics”

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sigh

I was going to say a few token black faces to make the party look inclusive - should I have said that?

Interestingly if the claim is their is greater ethnic (ooh) composition on the front bench very few are included on the photo shoot on the website. Why?

Cabinet – The Labour Party

The Cabinet is made up of Keir Starmer and his top team in Parliament. Take a look at the Labour Government's frontbench and what they do.
labour.org.uk
 

SkyBlueSoul

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,736
Another normal day on Fox

 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,737
Dorries and Rees-Mogg expected to back Truss at the same time and around the corner from Sunak launching his campaign. It’s starting to look like I’m not Sunak is going to be the Truss ticket, not exactly setting her apart.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,738
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Incredibly it seems a video where the candidate hardly features but somebody narrates over some flag waving is enough to send her into pole position with the membership.
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You really are ridiculous

Flag waving appeals to your previous red wall even Starmer isn’t stupid enough not to realise he has to have a Union Jack next to him whenever he is photographed - if you ran the Labour Party they’d get less votes than the monster raving looney party - you’d alienate key voters in a second
 
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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,739
CCFCSteve said:
Not sure that’s right if you’re implying what I think you are BSB. I remember seeing polling where Sunak was most popular amongst the members until NIC increase and his wife’s tax issues

Edit - Grendel beat me to it
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I'd like to test it at some point. Plus Sunak's about the only one not promising tax cuts for the sake of it!
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,740
Grendel said:
sigh

I was going to say a few token black faces to make the party look inclusive - should I have said that?

Interestingly if the claim is their is greater ethnic (ooh) composition on the front bench very few are included on the photo shoot on the website. Why?

Cabinet – The Labour Party

The Cabinet is made up of Keir Starmer and his top team in Parliament. Take a look at the Labour Government's frontbench and what they do.
labour.org.uk
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ethnic is fine, calling a group of people “ethnics” is, um, not.

The only person banging on about peoples ethnicity is you here. I seem to remember you not being a massive fan of black Labour front bench members when they were prominent.

But sure, the party of Windrush and islamophobia is the woke party and the one of race relations and equality acts isn’t.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,741
shmmeee said:
ethnic is fine, calling a group of people “ethnics” is, um, not.

The only person banging on about peoples ethnicity is you here. I seem to remember you not being a massive fan of black Labour front bench members when they were prominent.

But sure, the party of Windrush and islamophobia is the woke party and the one of race relations and equality acts isn’t.
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Actually it was BSB who mentioned it and I won’t be taking any lectures regarding what’s acceptable from a brexiteer who didn’t want an influx of dirty Eastern European’s and then magically saw the light when his junior school child told him what to do
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,742
Grendel said:
Actually it was BSB who mentioned it and I won’t be taking any lectures regarding what’s acceptable from a brexiteer who didn’t want an influx of dirty Eastern European’s and then magically saw the light when his junior school child told him what to do
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Well if I ever come across such a person I’ll warn them.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,743
Frankly you’d pay to watch this every week

 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,744
Rishi has just said Boris has a good heart!!! Wtaf
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 12, 2022
  • #17,745
Grendel said:
Frankly you’d pay to watch this every week

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Well at least she speaks competently and coherently, and is able to put an argument across, unlike Johnson.

Just a shame that the actual content is absolute guff as what she denies was proven to have happened in a court of law.

Another lying Tory. Shock.
 
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