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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (33 Viewers)

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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 11, 2022
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Nick said:
Again, people seem to be thinking Private School = Eton or Harrow with that c**t who looks like him from the Beano strolling about.
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I'm thinking Henry VIII or Bablake with the fees Fernando quoted. No way my parents could afford those fees.
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 11, 2022
  • #17,572
Another law breaking Tory


 

Nick

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  • Jul 11, 2022
  • #17,573
Deleted member 5849 said:
I'm thinking Henry VIII or Bablake with the fees Fernando quoted. No way my parents could afford those fees.
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Nobody is saying everybody and anybody could though?

I know a fair few people with kids in them, they are by no means even what you would class as rich or a "well off family".
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 11, 2022
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Nick said:
Nobody is saying everybody and anybody could though?
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So why are we saying some can, when actually the focus should be on the vast majority who can't!
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 11, 2022
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Anyway, I suppose this thread has reaffirmed my working class credentials, if nothing else(!)
 
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Nick

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  • Jul 11, 2022
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Deleted member 5849 said:
So why are we saying some can, when actually the focus should be on the vast majority who can't!
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And in some cases it's what people prioritise and want to afford. (again, some)

I know somebody who sends their kid to private school who has a properly old car and rocks about in old Slazenger T-Shirts. You would never ever look at him and think it. Half the time he looks like a hobo.

On the other hand I know people who will happily wear a £400 hoody and £500 trainers but have no interest in any education for their kids other than drop them off and pick them up.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 11, 2022
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Nick said:
And in some cases it's what people prioritise and want to afford. (again, some)
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Some - a minority. Who are still pretty well off if they can afford to spare £13k pa extra in school fees per child!
 

Nick

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  • Jul 11, 2022
  • #17,578
Deleted member 5849 said:
Some - a minority. Who are still pretty well off if they can afford to spare £13k pa extra in school fees per child!
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That's what bursaries are for as well. Then it isn't 13k.

13k a year is the difference between a 100k house and a £300k house.

You would really be surprised at how many at those are just normal people going out to work every day as opposed to people born onto an estate with butlers.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 11, 2022
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Some - a minority. Who are still pretty well off if they can afford to spare £13k pa extra in school fees per child!
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Or they decide to put their disposable income into it. I know 4 people from council houses who do it and one who sold their house and downsized massively to raise cash
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 11, 2022
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Grendel said:
Or they decide to put their disposable income into it. I know 4 people from council houses who do it and one who sold their house and downsized massively to raise cash
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Again, most just don't have £13k disposable income (and that's just for one child, apparently!). Well done you if you do! You name me four from council houses, I'll name you plenty who don;t have the option to downsize as they're already down.

By the looks of this board, I can't help but feel I should have been applying to the season ticket support fund(!)
 
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Nick

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  • Jul 11, 2022
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Again, most just don't have £13k disposable income (and that's just for one child, apparently!). Well done you if you do! You name me four from council houses, I'll name you plenty who don;t have the option to downsize as they're already down.

By the looks of this board, I can't help but feel I should have been applying to the season ticket support fund(!)
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Can they not go up slightly? In terms of income.

(Said from somebody with basic GCSEs)

One person I know retrained and did it that way.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 11, 2022
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Again, most just don't have £13k disposable income (and that's just for one child, apparently!). Well done you if you do! You name me four from council houses, I'll name you plenty who don;t have the option to downsize as they're already down.

By the looks of this board, I can't help but feel I should have been applying to the season ticket support fund(!)
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But that’s not the point is it if they choose to spend every penny on bettering their children it’s a real positive surely.

Sorry this is a Rwanda style headline grab from Starmer - it’s envy politics- an us and then mentality and a case of let’s have a race to the bottom of the education ladder and everyone can get the same experience

All mine were state educated at primary level. Really nice schools as in a decent area.

State comp in an absolute dump area. Went there on an open day literally horrified and thought not a chance. Didn’t care what it cost - and it cost a lot of loans refinancing and parental help - but that wasn’t for me

Oh and yes this was in the halcyon days of Tony Blair.
 
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BodicoteSkyBlue

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  • Jul 11, 2022
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PVA said:
Another law breaking Tory


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Walked away wearing a miniskirt & high heels?? the mind truly boggles.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 11, 2022
  • #17,584
Grendel said:
But that’s not the point is it if they choose to spend every penny on bettering their children it’s a real positive surely.

Sorry this is a Rwanda style headline grab from Starmer - it’s envy politics- an us and then mentality and a case of let’s have a race to the bottom of the education ladder and everyone can get the same experience

All mine were state educated at primary level. Really nice schools as in a decent area.

State comp in an absolute dump area. Went there on an open day literally horrified and thought not a chance. Didn’t care what it cost - and it cost a lot of loans refinancing and parental help - but that wasn’t for me

Oh and yes this was in the halcyon days of Tony Blair.
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I think that’s bollox it’s not the politics of envy there’s a middle ground, it’s abhorrent that we give charitable status to private education and leave rashford to embarrass the government to fund meal support. And yes there’s a question of religious institutions charitable status too you can throw in but to call it the politics of envy shows you hate starmer
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 11, 2022
  • #17,585
Grendel said:
But that’s not the point is it if they choose to spend every penny on bettering their children it’s a real positive surely.

Sorry this is a Rwanda style headline grab from Starmer - it’s envy politics- an us and then mentality and a case of let’s have a race to the bottom of the education ladder and everyone can get the same experience

All mine were state educated at primary level. Really nice schools as in a decent area.

State comp in an absolute dump area. Went there on an open day literally horrified and thought not a chance. Didn’t care what it cost - and it cost a lot of loans refinancing and parental help - but that wasn’t for me

Oh and yes this was in the halcyon days of Tony Blair.
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Interesting too you bring him up as the investment in education in his and labours first term was significant
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 11, 2022
  • #17,586
Sky Blue Pete said:
I think that’s bollox it’s not the politics of envy there’s a middle ground, it’s abhorrent that we give charitable status to private education and leave rashford to embarrass the government to fund meal support. And yes there’s a question of religious institutions charitable status too you can throw in but to call it the politics of envy shows you hate starmer
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Why mention Eton if it’s not? Also if it’s prime aim is not to save money what is it?
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 11, 2022
  • #17,587
Patel is a truly awful witch. Vile woman.



A British resident who is stranded in Jamaica with her baby has been told by the Home Office the child cannot come to the UK because he has an “established life” on the Caribbean island.

Tiffany Ellis, 28, has indefinite leave to remain in the UK, where she has lived since the age of eight. She gave birth to Xien Ellis on 30 April last year in Jamaica and has been trying to return to the UK ever since.

In a letter of refusal of the baby’s visa application, Home Office officials say the decision is “justified by the need to maintain an effective immigration and border control” and will not have “unjustifiably harsh consequences”.

They add that the baby’s life can continue as it is now in Jamaica with financial support from his mother in the UK.



Woman who gave birth in Jamaica stranded after baby refused entry to UK

British resident Tiffany Ellis separated from husband and other child since last year after ‘callous’ Home Office decision
www.theguardian.com
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 11, 2022
  • #17,588
PVA said:
Patel is a truly awful witch. Vile woman.



A British resident who is stranded in Jamaica with her baby has been told by the Home Office the child cannot come to the UK because he has an “established life” on the Caribbean island.

Tiffany Ellis, 28, has indefinite leave to remain in the UK, where she has lived since the age of eight. She gave birth to Xien Ellis on 30 April last year in Jamaica and has been trying to return to the UK ever since.

In a letter of refusal of the baby’s visa application, Home Office officials say the decision is “justified by the need to maintain an effective immigration and border control” and will not have “unjustifiably harsh consequences”.

They add that the baby’s life can continue as it is now in Jamaica with financial support from his mother in the UK.



Woman who gave birth in Jamaica stranded after baby refused entry to UK

British resident Tiffany Ellis separated from husband and other child since last year after ‘callous’ Home Office decision
www.theguardian.com
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Madness
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 11, 2022
  • #17,589
Oof


 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 11, 2022
  • #17,590
PVA said:
Oof


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Are Labour sure they don't want to go for an election?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 11, 2022
  • #17,591
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Are Labour sure they don't want to go for an election?
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Starmer said bring it on on radio 2 this morning
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 11, 2022
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Sky Blue Pete said:
Starmer said bring it on on radio 2 this morning
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Beware the ghost of Miliband's past

 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 11, 2022
  • #17,593
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Beware the ghost of Miliband's past

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And instead we Cameron who delivered a brexit refurredum.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 11, 2022
  • #17,594
Sky Blue Pete said:
And instead we Cameron who delivered a brexit refurredum.
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'Brits don't quit'
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 11, 2022
  • #17,595
Sky Blue Pete said:
Starmer said bring it on on radio 2 this morning
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What a man
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 11, 2022
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Grendel said:
What a man
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Genuine question, as much because I know you're quite passionate on animal rights. Would Jeremy Hunt's stance on fox hunting automatically stop you voting for the Conservatives if he became leader?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 11, 2022
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Penny Mordaunt starts with the kind of attention to detail we're used to.

'Anything but blue please': Athlete asks to be removed from Tory leadership ad

PENNY Mordaunt kicked off her leadership campaign with an embarrassing gaffe as her launch video was hastily edited to remove several identifiable…
www.thenational.scot
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 11, 2022
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Penny Mordaunt starts with the kind of attention to detail we're used to.

'Anything but blue please': Athlete asks to be removed from Tory leadership ad

PENNY Mordaunt kicked off her leadership campaign with an embarrassing gaffe as her launch video was hastily edited to remove several identifiable…
www.thenational.scot
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It’s like no one wants to be associated with any of them and yet their still have been in power for 12 years
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 11, 2022
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The state of this fucking idiot


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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 11, 2022
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fernandopartridge said:
The state of this fucking idiot


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Just bollox
 

clint van damme

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  • Jul 11, 2022
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fernandopartridge said:
The state of this fucking idiot


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Are any of these clowns going to come up with a credible solution to the cost of living crisis or are they just going to try and out right wing each other?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 11, 2022
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fernandopartridge said:
The state of this fucking idiot


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You can even put your child through private school on benefits nowadays - it's no wonder people choose the £250 a month to live like kings.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 11, 2022
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clint van damme said:
Are any of these clowns going to come up with a credible solution to the cost of living crisis or are they just going to try and out right wing each other?
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Jeremy Hunt's the sodding moderate nowadays!
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jul 11, 2022
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Jeremy Hunt's the sodding moderate nowadays!
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I have grave misgivings about the country being run by a man who once forgot his wife's nationality.
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 11, 2022
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I'd love to see some of these idiots go head to head with Starmer in the commons or in a debate.

Johnson could get away with his awful performances in PMQs because he's a 'bit of a character' or whatever.

These chancers like Braverman and Patel would get destroyed and it would be wonderful to watch them flounder.
 
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