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fatso

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,081
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Nah.....She snatched my primary school 1/4 pint milk......the bitch.
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Lol, she did that's true, but 3 consecutive labour governments failed to reintroduce it, which should tell you something!
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,082
Otis said:
I think Starmer has already said that hasn't he.
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Can’t really do anything else under the circumstances.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,083
Just watching his speech now. Completely delusional.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,084
fatso said:
Lol, she did that's true, but 3 consecutive labour governments failed to reintroduce it, which should tell you something!
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fatso

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,085
shmmeee said:
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I do look forward to your graphs shmmeee
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,086
fatso said:
I do look forward to your graphs shmmeee
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/topics/zqgrd2p/articles/zqv8bqt
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,087
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,088
Also during that speech he thanked his personal security team for not leaking about the parties. What a c**t.
 
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duffer

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,089
fatso said:
I think you'll find we had a fantastic vaccine roll out, and an unprecedented response to the pandemic when compared to much of the rest of Europe, even down to the nightingale facilities that thankfully wernt called upon, the deaths were tragic, but inevitable, that's the nature of a pandemic. but hey, don't let that temper your hyperbole.

There's much he got wrong during his tenure, but the response to the pandemic wasn't one of them (imo)
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Hmm. Too little, too late on the initial lockdown cost thousands of lives. If not tens of thousands.

Vaccine roll-out, fair enough, but by any independent measure our initial handling of covid was an appalling public health failure. Thousands died whilst the Government dithered.

Coronavirus: Dithering and delay cost 21,000 lives in spring, analysis confirms

An Imperial report studying the first two waves to hit the UK found only lockdown brought R below 1 – and ‘acting early’ is critical
www.telegraph.co.uk

Media hub - BMJ Group

Explore the latest published research, corporate updates, and insights from BMJ Group. Stay informed about cutting-edge scientific studies, medical innovations, and our impact on global healthcare.
www.bmj.com

U.K. delay imposing lockdown cost thousands of lives, report says

The deadly delay resulted from ministers’ failure to question scientific advisers, resulting in a dangerous level of “groupthink,” lawmakers said.
www.nbcnews.com

The death rates aren't much to shout about either.

Mortality Analyses - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center

How does mortality differ across countries? Examining the number of deaths per confirmed case and per 100,000 population. A global comparison.
coronavirus.jhu.edu

You're obviously welcome to your opinion, but I don't think it's supported by the facts.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,090
I honestly didn’t think things could have got more ridiculous than yesterday but here we are.
 
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duffer

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,091
fatso said:
I'm more than happy with my vaccine decision, I looked at my personal situation and chose not to take a new vaccine with no long term testing, for a flu like virus with a survival rate in excess off 99%
Others will make their own decision according to their own circumstances.
I certainly haven't criticised him for his handling of the pandemic.
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Which basically says that you were happy with the handling of the pandemic because ultimately you didn't think it was serious.

It's not an evidence based opinion, anyone who thinks covid is the same as the flu isn't thinking straight.

Of course you're happy with your choice, but don't pretend it was based on a proper understanding of the science or the numbers, because it wasn't.

Luckily most people didn't think like you, otherwise hardly anyone would've bothered getting vaccinated. Anyway, this is old ground covered elsewhere.

I think it's clear that your opinion on the government's handling of the pandemic is similarly flawed though, I'm afraid, as evidenced above.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,092

Convinced Sir Michael posts on here
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,093
PVA said:
Also during that speech he thanked his personal security team for not leaking about the parties. What a c**t.
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I’m still trying to get my head around that. Although he did stop short of saying snitches get stitches so I suppose that’s something.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,094
clint van damme said:

Convinced Sir Michael posts on here
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I know it’s a Micky take but sometimes I have to pinch myself reading his tweets because 9 out of 10 of them are based on something that an actual Tory MP has said.
 
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Otis

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,095
duffer said:
Which basically says that you were happy with the handling of the pandemic because ultimately you didn't think it was serious.

It's not an evidence based opinion, anyone who thinks covid is the same as the flu isn't thinking straight.

Of course you're happy with your choice, but don't pretend it was based on a proper understanding of the science or the numbers, because it wasn't.

Luckily most people didn't think like you, otherwise hardly anyone would've bothered getting vaccinated. Anyway, this is old ground covered elsewhere.

I think it's clear that your opinion on the government's handling of the pandemic is similarly flawed though, I'm afraid, as evidenced above.
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Yup and the government line has always been about the vaccines hasn't it. No mention of the delays and Boris going against the science.

Very disingenuous
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,096
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,097
As always no one says it better than the actual excellent Jonathan Pie

 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,098
Otis said:
Yup and the government line has always been about the vaccines hasn't it. No mention of the delays and Boris going against the science.

Very disingenuous
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The Government had nothing to do with the development of the vaccines and the roll out was organised by the NHS. It's outrageous that Johnson and Zahawi try to claim credit.

The real failing in the pandemic was the absence of a contingency plan, and I suspect that is what the public enquiry will find whenever it reports. To be fair the biggest blame there lies with Theresa May.
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,099
David O'Day said:
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I mean, they're right, but I don't know why they're acting all shocked and surprised
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,100
Andrew Bridgden on the radio pretending that he’s the one that sussed Boris out.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,101
PVA said:
I mean, they're right, but I don't know why they're acting all shocked and surprised
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he's not lasting to autumn though
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,102
Has he gone?

 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,103

Was just at the doctors and the nurses were talking about how much they liked Javid. Don’t get it myself but there you are.

I think him and Sunak are the only ones that might save them at the next GE. Will be interesting to see if the members can get over their racism, though maybe they won’t get a choice if those two are the final pair.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,104
shmmeee said:

Was just at the doctors and the nurses were talking about how much they liked Javid. Don’t get it myself but there you are.

I think him and Sunak are the only ones that might save them at the next GE. Will be interesting to see if the members can get over their racism, though maybe they won’t get a choice if those two are the final pair.
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sunak is too thin skinned and will be easy to paint as an austerity monster
 

Frostie

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,105
David O'Day said:
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Worth remembering that they all knew what he was like & were happy to back him when it suited their own ambitions.
They didn't revolt because they suddenly found out what he's like, they revolted because the public finally twigged.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,106
Frostie said:
Worth remembering that they all knew what he was like & were happy to back him when it suited their own ambitions.
They didn't revolt because they suddenly found out what he's like, they revolted because the public finally twigged.
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aye they are cunts
 

Evo1883

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,107
rob9872 said:
A sad day. Thanks for the memories Boris.

Well done on getting Brexit done, you were fantastic through Covid and have led the world in our Ukraine efforts, not to mention keeping that antisemite out of No10.
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Jesus christ
 
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shepardo01

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,108
So he's gone....but he's staying for a few more months!!????
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,109
shepardo01 said:
So he's gone....but he's staying for a few more months!!????
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He should go today he can’t be trusted and will have a free run to do what he wants during the mps break.
 
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SkyBlueSoul

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,110
Madame Tussaudes Blackpool (no, me neither) appear to have put their waxwork of Johnson outside a job centre

Boris Johnson waxwork appears outside jobcentre as PM quits as Tory leader

Madame Tussauds in London also updated their 10 Downing Street display with a sign saying ‘vacancy’.
www.indy100.com
 

duffer

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,111
rob9872 said:
A sad day. Thanks for the memories Boris.

Well done on getting Brexit done, you were fantastic through Covid and have led the world in our Ukraine efforts, not to mention keeping that antisemite out of No10.
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A sad day indeed.

Thank you, Boris, for exposing the party of law and order as the completely corrupt sham that it is.

And for highlighting the utter hypocrisy of clapping for the NHS whilst simultaneously running it into the ground.

Thank you too, for drawing the xenophobic ("I'm not a racist but letter-boxes, watermelon smiles, etc. etc.") idiots who believe anything that's painted on a bus, out of the closet.

Their unwavering support for a man without the faintest shred of decency or honesty (or competence!) helps us see them for what they truly are.

I only wish I'd sold my shares in that high-vis company sooner.
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,112
We've all got the shittiest version of Britain's Got Talent coming up over the next few weeks, with the worst contenders being voted out every few days until it is whittled down to two.
 
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SkyBlueSoul

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,113
Philosorapter said:
We've all got the shittiest version of Britain's Got Talent coming up over the next few weeks, with the worst contenders being voted out every few days until it is whittled down to two.
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skybluetony176

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,114
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #17,115
Think it is customary to at least let the corpse cool for a day before you put in your Leadership bid.

Those showing an interest in the media at the moment I doubt are any serious contenders.
 
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