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jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,946
Allowing housing benefit claimants to use the payments towards a mortgage?........WTAF?

Thats an even more mental & financially retarded idea than a bridge between NI & Scotland........

Barmy posh c**t.
 
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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,947
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Allowing housing benefit claimants to use the payments towards a mortgage?........WTAF?

Thats an even more mental & financially retarded idea than a bridge between NI & Scotland........

Barmy posh c**t.
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Yeah, bit bonkers innit.

Let alone the fact it's not possible, as if you have enough savings for a deposit you won't be able to claim any benefits, even if it was possible you're effectively encouraging homelessness or starvation down the line, aren't you!
 
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jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,948
Deleted member 5849 said:
Yeah, bit bonkers innit.

Let alone the fact it's not possible, as if you have enough savings for a deposit you won't be able to claim any benefits, even if it was possible you're effectively encouraging homelessness or starvation down the line, aren't you!
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...or encouraging people to become completely benefit dependant forever......whilst decreasing the availability of social housing at the same time as helping to inflate the already fit-to-burst housing bubble.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 9, 2022
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jimmyhillsfanclub said:
...or encouraging people to become completely benefit dependant forever......whilst decreasing the availability of social housing at the same time as helping to inflate the already fit-to-burst housing bubble.
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Yeah, we should be building more social housing really, not giving away the limited amount we have.

Have to remove the stigma of living in it, too. My Great Aunt bought hers because it was the thing you were supposed to do, meant she ended up living in squalor as she couldn't then afford to repair anything. If it had stayed a council property, somebody would have actually fixed the things that were wrong with it!
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,950
On another note, I'm ordering a pizza at the weekend.

 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,951
Mr Starmer is opposed it seems to the strike action

Rail strikes stance reflects Starmer’s more cautious approach to unions

Analysis: Labour seeking to put onus on ministers to resolve row as Tories try to make capital from Corbyn era
amp.theguardian.com
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,952
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Allowing housing benefit claimants to use the payments towards a mortgage?........WTAF?

Thats an even more mental & financially retarded idea than a bridge between NI & Scotland........

Barmy posh c**t.
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Expect a lot of this shit for as long as Johnson remains as PM.

Just throwing out ridiculous idea after ridiculous idea. Weekly or even daily, with no intention of ever implementing them, knowing full well they'll never go anywhere, but just to grab a few cheap headlines.

It was crime a few weeks back, NHS earlier in the week, now this. It'll be relentless.
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,953
Plebs, know your place. Get back in line.


 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,954
PVA said:
Plebs, know your place. Get back in line.


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I get the point, that it's not an all or nothing - not going to Oxbridge doesn't make you a failure, nor stop you from achieving. And classing elite universities as the main means of success can stop people being valued, and also stop people valuing themselves.

It's basically saying aspire, but don't consider it failure if you don't end up at Oxbridge. That doesn't, of course, mean that the brightest academically shouldn't aspire to Oxbridge, and that more shouldn't be done to help those achieve ahead of inherant class barriers.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,955
I think a reasonable compromise for working class aiming lower than Oxbridge is that Oxbridge graduates aim higher than politics or media. It would help the rest of us enormously.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,956
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Allowing housing benefit claimants to use the payments towards a mortgage?........WTAF?

Thats an even more mental & financially retarded idea than a bridge between NI & Scotland........

Barmy posh c**t.
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How the fuck do they come up with this bollocks?
I wonder if the lenders were consulted before he blurted out this idea?
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,957
PVA said:
Expect a lot of this shit for as long as Johnson remains as PM.

Just throwing out ridiculous idea after ridiculous idea. Weekly or even daily, with no intention of ever implementing them, knowing full well they'll never go anywhere, but just to grab a few cheap headlines.

It was crime a few weeks back, NHS earlier in the week, now this. It'll be relentless.
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Listening to a few tory mps who voted against Johnson this was their main issue with him.

They were saying the party has no structure and no organisation and nothing is actually getting done.
 

RegTheDonk

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,958
duffer said:
Yeah, maybe this will help. None of them were calling remain the next day. Perhaps in all the excitement, you were mistaken.

Brexit front pages - in pictures

Newspapers from around the world react to the European Union referendum result and David Cameron’s resignation
www.theguardian.com
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Never brought a paper but clearly recall in the shop some people face painted in EU flags with the headline like "now thats sorted lets kiss and make up" or something like that.
Edit scratch that just seen pvas post, yeah it was the mirror.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,959
fernandopartridge said:
One of the bright lights apparently

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Think that’s ok. I’m on the side of the public and support rmt representing their members and if this means strike action then that’s a democratic mandate discussion . Rmt network rail and the government need to sort it out
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,960
clint van damme said:
How the fuck do they come up with this bollocks?
I wonder if the lenders were consulted before he blurted out this idea?
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Or the housing associations
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,961
Sky Blue Pete said:
Think that’s ok. I’m on the side of the public and support rmt representing their members and if this means strike action then that’s a democratic mandate discussion . Rmt network rail and the government need to sort it out
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LOL, RMT members are the also members of the public. The issues are all being driven by the government and she should have expressed support for the RMT workers (and everybody else) in the face of the cost of living crisis, instead of putting them in opposition.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,962
What is the actual proposal about mortgages, or is there not one and this is just another soundbite thrown out.

When I was on furlough and not sure if I'd have a job to go back to I looked into benefit enitllement and as someone with a mortgage it was fuck all. I'd have been looking at losing my house. However if I'd been renting my entire rent would have been covered by benefits.

When I bought this house I moved from a house I was renting in the same street, the rent was pretty much double what the mortgage is. Seems odd that we're happy to pass taxpayer money directly into landlords pockets but object to to helping anyone with a mortgage.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,963
There needs to be a whole new look at housing and giving people the chance to get on the property ladder. The amount of money some people have to pay to private landlords in some cases would cover a mortgage and also an amount to be put away to create a deposit.
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,964
Ian1779 said:
There needs to be a whole new look at housing and giving people the chance to get on the property ladder. The amount of money some people have to pay to private landlords in some cases would cover a mortgage and also an amount to be put away to create a deposit.
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Building not just affordable homes, but building homes over the rate where supply matches demand could be start.
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,965
It also suits them if you have a nice owned property at the end and of life, if you need to go into a home it’s in excess of 1k per week.
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,966
Also, I like the idea of anyone with a second home gets taxed to fuck for owning more than one.

Would be a grace period though
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,967
fernandopartridge said:
LOL, RMT members are the also members of the public. The issues are all being driven by the government and she should have expressed support for the RMT workers (and everybody else) in the face of the cost of living crisis, instead of putting them in opposition.
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I felt that’s what she was saying really just in a round about kind of way
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,968
If you’re receiving benefits to help pay your rent how are you going to save for a deposit? Or is Boris suggesting 100% mortgages on social housing?
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,969
State of our government


It’s all getting very Lord of the Flies.
 

duffer

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,970
SBT said:
Those are the Saturday papers. I found the Friday ones in the end: https://www.thepaperboy.com/uk/2016/06/24/front-pages-archive.cfm

The Mirror front page is about as close to ‘Dewey Defeats Truman’ as you can get!
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Fair enough, I stand corrected. I didn't recall that at all, RTD wins!
 

duffer

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,971
RegTheDonk said:
Never brought a paper but clearly recall in the shop some people face painted in EU flags with the headline like "now thats sorted lets kiss and make up" or something like that.
Edit scratch that just seen pvas post, yeah it was the mirror.
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Fair enough, as previous, you're right on this, and I'm clearly wrong. I'll just have to get you next time.
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,972
skybluetony176 said:
State of our government

It’s all getting very Lord of the Flies.
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Left or right, politics or business. The rules of, 'The Prince' outweighs anything else.

Here's a couple of snippets.

 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,973
Sky Blue Pete said:
I felt that’s what she was saying really just in a round about kind of way
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Starmer opposes strike action
 

Ian1779

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,974
Grendel said:
Starmer opposes strike action
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Of course he does.. he does as he’s told.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,975
Grendel said:
Starmer opposes strike action
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Which is fine-though I assume he has budgeted for having zero union funding in a year or two
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,976
Grendel said:
Starmer opposes strike action
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Me too other than when it’s the only option left to the working man. Strike action is with an admission of failure on both sides or when you are dealing with instransigenxe and that can be on the employer or employee side. Normally the employer though
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,977
Sky Blue Pete said:
Me too other than when it’s the only option left to the working man. Strike action is with an admission of failure on both sides or when you are dealing with instransigenxe and that can be on the employer or employee side. Normally the employer though
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Starmer opposes it full stop
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,978
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Which is fine-though I assume he has budgeted for having zero union funding in a year or two
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Are you suggesting he's reneged on one of his ten pledges?
Surely not?!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,979
clint van damme said:
Are you suggesting he's reneged on one of his ten pledges?
Surely not?!
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I mean this only involves *chortles* 45,000 rail workers! I hardly think it’s a big issue
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,980
Grendel said:
Starmer opposes it full stop
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He’s wrong
 
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