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SBT

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,911
Philosorapter said:
Aren't you the guy who can't read a graph?
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What does this graph of yours say?

 

Philosoraptor

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,912
Have a read of this, it may help.

http://www.glicko.net/research/acjpaper.pdf

What it is trying to show here is the basis of a rating, relative to the team which has been put out, relative to the oppositions' strength in a league.
 
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SBT

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,913
Philosorapter said:
Have a read of this, it may help.

http://www.glicko.net/research/acjpaper.pdf

What it is trying to show here is the basis of a rating, relative to the team which has been out, relative to the oppositions' strength in a league.
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My apologies, I thought your charts didn’t make any sense, turns out all I had to do was read 49 pages of a study into chess analytics to figure it out. Great stuff.
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,914
SBT said:
My apologies, I thought your charts didn’t make any sense, turns out all I had to do was read 49 pages of a study into chess analytics to figure it out. Great stuff.
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I take it you are on a pc or phone at the moment. Have you read the manufacturing diagrams to know how your machine works, or just take it for granted it works?

It's a good system, which can show the progress of ability accurately through seasons.

I don't really wish to comment on individual ratings because, in all honestly, it is not my place to do so. I have noticed it hasn't stopped others doing this.

It's all very experimental. I do believe as the team gets stronger, hopefully, over the next few years, it will show in the charts. It is a long-term thing I'm trying to do.

One thing that needs to remembered though is that ratings are based on a number of things rather than solely on the player's attributes.

I hope this helps you out in some way.
 
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SBT

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,915
Philosorapter said:
I take it you are on a pc or phone at the moment. Have you read the manufacturing diagrams to know how your machine works, or just take it for granted it works?

It's a good system, which can show the progress of ability accurately through seasons.

I don't really wish to comment on individual ratings because, in all honestly, it is not my place to do so. I have noticed it hasn't stopped others doing this.

It's all very experimental. I do believe as the team gets stronger, hopefully, over the next few years, it will show in the charts. It is a long-term thing I'm trying to do.

One thing that needs to remembered though is that ratings are based are a number of things rather than solely on the player's attributes.

I hope this helps you out in some way.
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“I take it you are on a PC or a phone at the moment” - top insight here, no wonder you’re into statistics
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,916
SBT said:
“I take it you are on a PC or a phone at the moment” - top insight here, no wonder you’re into statistics
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That's proposition 1. You would need to take proposition 2 as well to understand the arguments in the sentence.

I wish you the best.
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,917
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
He seems to always hold back and looking down at his crib notes certainly doesn't help. Never the most spontaneous of leaders.
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Ah yes. Because what we need right now is a leader with more spontaneity. Not planned and calculated.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,918
Always keen to show off their brass neck Downing St have criticised the RMT for being ‘selfish’ by calling strike action later in the month. Yes the people who brazenly broke their own laws while others got forced not to console people at funerals are calling others selfish.

Get the fuckers out of office
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,919
Deleted member 5849 said:
It is an interesting conclusion to say the least. Does he clarify who banned him? I assume his employers?

As shmmeee mentioned earlier, kind of trashes polling companies as impartial data gatherers, doesn't it.
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There are two threads but he basically says yes yougov did and had significant pressure from Tory MPs / ministers.

I think this country is utterly fucked in the long term, it's being utterly pilloried by these highwaymen and because a few over 50s think their house is valuable they keep voting for them.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,920
More quality politicianing from the Tories, made yourself look like cunts for no discernible reason.

 
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chiefdave

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,921
shmmeee said:
More quality politicianing from the Tories, made yourself look like cunts for no discernible reason.

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I've got this on in the background, I often have stuff like that on as background noise, but this caught my attention.

Head of Borders & Immigration for 14 months and not once has he met Patel. 6 meetings scheduled, 6 meetings cancelled by Patel. He doesn't sound happy at all says things are being told to the press before anyone else and that is creating uncertainly and terrible morale.

Says he will break an agreement with the Home Office not to public reports if they keep sitting on them. Would normally be released at most 8 weeks after they've been submitted to the Home Office but there's some that have been sat on for over 4 months. He's saying he will put them out on social media if they aren't released.

Also mentioned the Home Office is impossible to deal with as they're always in crisis mode and never have time to deal with the actual job they should be doing.
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,922
Oh it was just a joke. Classic Zawahi.


 
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PVA

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,923
chiefdave said:
I've got this on in the background, I often have stuff like that on as background noise, but this caught my attention.

Head of Borders & Immigration for 14 months and not once has he met Patel. 6 meetings scheduled, 6 meetings cancelled by Patel. He doesn't sound happy at all says things are being told to the press before anyone else and that is creating uncertainly and terrible morale.

Says he will break an agreement with the Home Office not to public reports if they keep sitting on them. Would normally be released at most 8 weeks after they've been submitted to the Home Office but there's some that have been sat on for over 4 months. He's saying he will put them out on social media if they aren't released.

Also mentioned the Home Office is impossible to deal with as they're always in crisis mode and never have time to deal with the actual job they should be doing.
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Same as Johnson skipping a load of Covid COBRA meetings.

They can't be arsed to do any work and aren't remotely interested in doing anything to better the country.

 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,924
PVA said:
Oh it was just a joke. Classic Zawahi.


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Classic “just a prank bro”.

Maybe the last 12 years has all been one massive windup?
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,925
Interesting article, fairly spot on but then it does agree with my priors.

Time and again the Tories are wrong about the NHS. It actually needs more managers

Doctors and nurses are being forced to spend hours doing managerial and admin work, time that could be better spent doing actual doctoring and nursing
inews.co.uk
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,926
shmmeee said:
Classic “just a prank bro”.

Maybe the last 12 years has all been one massive windup?
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Presumably if it was 'just a joke' there will be a believable explanation for why the already written article on the debate poll that showed Corbyn won by a country mile, and one in four Tory voters thought he was best was never published and why polling methodologies were changed to favour the tories.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,927
There is a of course a slight problem in this Corbyn debate about bias isn’t there?
 

RegTheDonk

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,928
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Everything was showing a remain win. It was quite a 'shock' when leave won. I'm sure many people are sceptical about many political readings, including polls, following that.
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I recall getting up in the morning, turning on the radio and finding we'd left. Down the newsagent, some of the papers jumped the gun and said we were still in lol.

Even Nigel had given up at one point I think.

Exit polls have been pretty accurate over the last few years, but pre-polls I wouldn't take as gospel.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,929
RegTheDonk said:
I recall getting up in the morning, turning on the radio and finding we'd left. Down the newsagent, some of the papers jumped the gun and said we were still in lol.

Even Nigel had given up at one point I think.

Exit polls have been pretty accurate over the last few years, but pre-polls I wouldn't take as gospel.
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Allegedly Nigel kept pretending that leave had lost having seen the exit polls saying the opposite so his mate could make a fortune betting against the pound. Such a patriot.
 
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RegTheDonk

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,930
skybluetony176 said:
Allegedly Nigel kept pretending that leave had lost having seen the exit polls saying the opposite so his mate could make a fortune betting against the pound. Such a patriot.
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What a swine. Well the stock markets slipped up there then. Fancy listening to one person. Never know Farage carried so much infuence, thought he was seen as a laughing stock.

I guess the broadsheets should have watched the exit polls and not Nigel too, if that's the case.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,931
RegTheDonk said:
What a swine. Well the stock markets slipped up there then. Fancy listening to one person. Never know Farage carried so much infuence, thought he was seen as a laughing stock.
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Well Tony did vote for him
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,932
RegTheDonk said:
What a swine. Well the stock markets slipped up there then. Fancy listening to one person. Never know Farage carried so much infuence, thought he was seen as a laughing stock.
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I don’t think he was alone in that to be fair. There seemed to be a lot of leavers that did well betting against the pound. Men of the people.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,933

Imposter on GMK

Just noticed I have an imposter on GMK. Sounds like a smear campaign against my good name as I can currently only find the one post and it has racial undertones, strange that as I have been attacked on here by some GMK faithful for pointing out casual racism on GMK threads. Still imitation is a...
www.skybluestalk.co.uk
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,934
 
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SBT

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,935
RegTheDonk said:
I recall getting up in the morning, turning on the radio and finding we'd left. Down the newsagent, some of the papers jumped the gun and said we were still in lol.
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Don’t remember this at all! You got a link?
 
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Ian1779

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,936
Something, something… Diane Abbott…

 
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clint van damme

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,937
Ian1779 said:
Something, something… Diane Abbott…

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Train strike is nothing to do with the drivers.
More tory bollocks.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,938
shmmeee said:
Interesting article, fairly spot on but then it does agree with my priors.

Time and again the Tories are wrong about the NHS. It actually needs more managers

Doctors and nurses are being forced to spend hours doing managerial and admin work, time that could be better spent doing actual doctoring and nursing
inews.co.uk
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It does, I'm working with a trust trying to buy a haemodialysis managed service (new equipment and ongoing maintenance) but without having a single individual solely designated to the project, it is so difficult.
Hospitals are huge complex organisations and the notion that doctors and nurses can run them is for the birds.
 
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RegTheDonk

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,939
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SBT said:
Don’t remember this at all! You got a link?
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No i was on hols in Devon and the local papershop doesn't have a web site
 
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duffer

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,940
RegTheDonk said:
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No i was on hols in Devon and the local papershop doesn't have a web site
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Yeah, maybe this will help. None of them were calling remain the next day. Perhaps in all the excitement, you were mistaken.

Brexit front pages - in pictures

Newspapers from around the world react to the European Union referendum result and David Cameron’s resignation
www.theguardian.com
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,941
duffer said:
Yeah, maybe this will help. None of them were calling remain the next day. Perhaps in all the excitement, you were mistaken.

Brexit front pages - in pictures

Newspapers from around the world react to the European Union referendum result and David Cameron’s resignation
www.theguardian.com
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How did they have a picture of David Cameron’s resignation speech before it happened?
 
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SBT

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,942
duffer said:
Yeah, maybe this will help. None of them were calling remain the next day. Perhaps in all the excitement, you were mistaken.

Brexit front pages - in pictures

Newspapers from around the world react to the European Union referendum result and David Cameron’s resignation
www.theguardian.com
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Those are the Saturday papers. I found the Friday ones in the end: https://www.thepaperboy.com/uk/2016/06/24/front-pages-archive.cfm

The Mirror front page is about as close to ‘Dewey Defeats Truman’ as you can get!
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,943
One of the bright lights apparently

 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,944
fernandopartridge said:
One of the bright lights apparently

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I must admit I thought she might be ok but she’s hopeless
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #14,945
Of course the Tory boys going on about train driver salaries have ignored that they haven’t actually been balloted.
 
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