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shmmeee

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  • Jun 7, 2022
  • #14,841
fernandopartridge said:
Why is this?

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Just margin of error stuff really, shows no change. Also pre VONC I think?
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 7, 2022
  • #14,842
duffer said:
Johnson has never wanted the best team, he wants the ultra-loyalists who go along with him regardless.

Unfortunately the Venn diagram of 'loyal to Johnson' and 'a complete idiot' fit in the same exact circle.

Why do you think he would change? He has already gone from 'humbled' to "I'd do the same thing again".

The man is a complete disgrace; his only redeeming quality is that he clearly highlights how much of the rest of his party is equally shabby.
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He also doesn’t want anyone who looks better than him. He almost fucked up with Sunak but he came good in the end. Sunak played the long game. The good news for Boris is he drained the Tory gene pool at the last election so successfully he was able to appoint Nadine Dorries to the cabinet and no one was able to criticise the decision based on there being someone else in the party who was better qualified. What the literal fuck have we done.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 7, 2022
  • #14,843
Interesting thread on Grenfell. When those Tory scumbags talk about austerity this sort of thing is the result:

 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 7, 2022
  • #14,844
fernandopartridge said:
Interesting thread on Grenfell. When those Tory scumbags talk about austerity this sort of thing is the result:

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Poor people and it was a long time ago time to move or blame starmer as he was near London at the time
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2022
  • #14,845
fernandopartridge said:
Interesting thread on Grenfell. When those Tory scumbags talk about austerity this sort of thing is the result:

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A complete lost decade. This one isn’t any better.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Jun 7, 2022
  • #14,846
"We are now able to draw a line under it ...."
I'm a big fat lying bastard but I don't care.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2022
  • #14,847
Deary me

 

Otis

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  • Jun 7, 2022
  • #14,848
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Deary me

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Is this a wind-up?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,849
The language used by the MP is so Trumpian DAN WOOTTON: Boris Johnson never stood a chance thanks to biased BBC
 

Terry_dactyl

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,850
Sick Boy said:
The language used by the MP is so Trumpian DAN WOOTTON: Boris Johnson never stood a chance thanks to biased BBC
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It seems to me that the BBC gets criticised about impartiality by those on the right and the left. Possibly tells us something…
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,851
Boris' ex, Petronella Wyatt is being interviewed on GMB. She could quite easily damage him even more.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,852
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Boris' ex, Petronella Wyatt is being interviewed on GMB. She could quite easily damage him even more.
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Her Daily Mail interview was quite sympathetic towards him.

Boris Johnson 'thinks parties are Dante's third circle of hell'

PETRONELLA WYATT: Boris doesn't even like parties. I would go further and say he hates them. He is not a party animal, politically or socially.
www.dailymail.co.uk
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,853
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Boris' ex, Petronella Wyatt is being interviewed on GMB. She could quite easily damage him even more.
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Is she the one he got engaged too while still married and got knocked up by him?
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,854
It’s all the Remainstream medias fault. They made Boris break the rules, cheat on his wives, lie repeatedly, lurch from one disaster to the next, surround himself with idiots etc etc.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,855
skybluetony176 said:
It’s all the Remainstream medias fault. They made Boris break the rules, cheat on his wives, lie repeatedly, lurch from one disaster to the next, surround himself with idiots etc etc.
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They weren’t complaining when the same media hounded Corbyn as a budding Nazi or wrote spreads about Ed Miliband’s dead father
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,856
Brighton Sky Blue said:
They weren’t complaining when the same media hounded Corbyn as a budding Nazi or wrote spreads about Ed Miliband’s dead father
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Or while Johnson was being paid by them to write his rubbish.
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,857
skybluetony176 said:
Is she the one he got engaged too while still married and got knocked up by him?
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Hasn't he had something like 5 affairs (that we know of) and a kid from each one of them?

No wonder he needs people to pay for his wallpaper, his child maintenence costs must be through the roof
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,858
His liberal and tolerant approach to his own and others' sex lives is probably why the likes of Mark Pawsey aren't comfortable with him in charge...
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,859
Deleted member 5849 said:
His liberal and tolerant approach to his own and others' sex lives is probably why the likes of Mark Pawsey aren't comfortable with him in charge...
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The affairs and marriage thing is a bit of a red herring - unless you are sleeping with spies or people who are working for you it’s irrelevant
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,860
Grendel said:
The affairs and marriage thing is a bit of a red herring - unless you are sleeping with spies or people who are working for you it’s irrelevant
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Yeah it probably deserves the piss ripping out of him for it, but I won't hold it against his politics mainly because, unlike Major's government, he doesn't tell other people how to run their lives in that way.

(Of course, that's why parties end up relevant to me!)
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,861
Grendel said:
The affairs and marriage thing is a bit of a red herring - unless you are sleeping with spies or people who are working for you it’s irrelevant
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I can just imagine the media reaction and bootlicker reaction if it emerged Starmer had a string of affairs.

It certainly would not be irrelevant.
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,862
Foreign leaders happy to join in the mocking.

Deservedly so in this case. Left standing outside because the pathetic coward running our country daren't show his face in case he gets more stick.


 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,863
PVA said:
I can just imagine the media reaction and bootlicker reaction if it emerged Starmer had a string of affairs.

It certainly would not be irrelevant.
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He’d probably go up in a few peoples estimations !!

As NW indicated with Major, it’s not like Johnson tries to hold himself up as the beacon of virtue.

I think that’s what people miss sometimes. We’re a tolerant country and most will give people passes for their behaviours, we’re all human afterall, but what pisses them off is hypocrisy and lying, hence the uproar about partygate. It wasn’t the parties and the risk of Covid transmission that bothered people, it was the fact that No 10 made and implemented the rules and then lied
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,864
Grendel said:
The affairs and marriage thing is a bit of a red herring - unless you are sleeping with spies or people who are working for you it’s irrelevant
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I doubt people would be saying that if he was working class, or black for that matter. We all know Dominic Raabs views on the working class and he thinks we’re all a bunch of Boris’ with a giro and big screen TV.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,865
PVA said:
I can just imagine the media reaction and bootlicker reaction if it emerged Starmer had a string of affairs.

It certainly would not be irrelevant.
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Corbyn did. Who made a big deal of it?
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,866
Grendel said:
Corbyn did. Who made a big deal of it?
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His missus ?!
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,867
Grendel said:
Corbyn did. Who made a big deal of it?
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With Diane Abbott? I don't think that was an affair - he and his wife had split before then.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,868
Grendel said:
The affairs and marriage thing is a bit of a red herring - unless you are sleeping with spies or people who are working for you it’s irrelevant
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It’s absolutely relevant and key questions would be asked when looking to work for security services or at a higher security level. It’s about blackmail and ability to be used to do something against the interest of the work.
So maybe he has been open and honest about all of his infidelity, if not it’s absolutely relevant to ask
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,869
Grendel said:
The affairs and marriage thing is a bit of a red herring - unless you are sleeping with spies or people who are working for you it’s irrelevant
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So somebody like Jennifer Arcuri?
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,870
Sky Blue Pete said:
It’s absolutely relevant and key questions would be asked when looking to work for security services or at a higher security level. It’s about blackmail and ability to be used to do something against the interest of the work.
So maybe he has been open and honest about all of his infidelity, if not it’s absolutely relevant to ask
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His private life is also a complete reflection of his “professional” life. Breaks promises, lies, cheats, chaotic, manipulative, self serving etc etc etc. It also always ends in tears. Not his, just the plethora of victims he leaves in his wake. If he can shit on his own children he can shit on anyone. The warning signs were always there.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,871
1.78.9 unleaded price down cannon Park tesco
 

duffer

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,872
CCFCSteve said:
He’d probably go up in a few peoples estimations !!

As NW indicated with Major, it’s not like Johnson tries to hold himself up as the beacon of virtue.

I think that’s what people miss sometimes. We’re a tolerant country and most will give people passes for their behaviours, we’re all human afterall, but what pisses them off is hypocrisy and lying, hence the uproar about partygate. It wasn’t the parties and the risk of Covid transmission that bothered people, it was the fact that No 10 made and implemented the rules and then lied
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Do you really think the Daily Mail or Daily Express would be tolerant of any Labour leader who'd had five children with other women whilst married?

Who'd been sacked for lying?

Who wrote overtly racist comments, in his regular columns.

Who ditched his security detail to attend a bunga-bunga party with the son of a KGB agent, and then handed out honours to the same?

Seriously mate, in your efforts to try to appear reasonable, you make an awful lot of assumptions.

Do you genuinely believe the right wing press and Tory voters would be as 'tolerant' of this if it was someone in charge of the Labour party?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,873
duffer said:
Do you really think the Daily Mail or Daily Express would be tolerant of any Labour leader who'd had five children with other women whilst married?

Who'd been sacked for lying?

Who wrote overtly racist comments, in his regular columns.

Who ditched his security detail to attend a bunga-bunga party with the son of a KGB agent, and then handed out honours to the same?

Seriously mate, in your efforts to try to appear reasonable, you make an awful lot of assumptions.

Do you genuinely believe the right wing press and Tory voters would be as 'tolerant' of this if it was someone in charge of the Labour party?
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He’s a lad isn’t he
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,874
Terry Gibson's perm said:
So somebody like Jennifer Arcuri?
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Or Carrie Symonds
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jun 8, 2022
  • #14,875
duffer said:
Do you really think the Daily Mail or Daily Express would be tolerant of any Labour leader who'd had five children with other women whilst married?

Who'd been sacked for lying?

Who wrote overtly racist comments, in his regular columns.

Who ditched his security detail to attend a bunga-bunga party with the son of a KGB agent, and then handed out honours to the same?

Seriously mate, in your efforts to try to appear reasonable, you make an awful lot of assumptions.

Do you genuinely believe the right wing press and Tory voters would be as 'tolerant' of this if it was someone in charge of the Labour party?
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I was just saying how I think some people (not press) view behaviours and leeway that some will give

The right and left leaning press will always lean towards supporting their own up to a point

I’ve seen plenty of negative/damning articles from right as well as left leaning press about Johnson. They’re just not usually front page which they would be in the left leaning papers or if roles were reversed
 
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