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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (15 Viewers)

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 6, 2022
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PVA said:
Can only assume it was a slip of the tongue or a mistake. Surely he wouldn’t intentionally say that?
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He’s reached the stage that Cartman did in the South Park Tourette’s episode
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,632
skybluetony176 said:
Ooooo.

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The problem with constant flip flopping is you can make yourself look a right twat


 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,633
Good old Dim. Finger on the pulse as usual

 
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Ian1779

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  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,634
Grendel said:
History does suggest he won’t survive until the next election
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Yes you are probably right - he will go when it suits the Conservative Party as a whole.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,635
Ian1779 said:
Yes you are probably right - he will go when it suits the Conservative Party as a whole.
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There is the question of who should succeed him whether now or later. His stooges have stood by and defended the criminal PM and the backbenches are unknowns.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 6, 2022
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 6, 2022
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
There is the question of who should succeed him whether now or later. His stooges have stood by and defended the criminal PM and the backbenches are unknowns.
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It'd obviously be Jeremy Hunt as the frontrunner. Long spells in government, vaguely statesmanlike and competent, true Tory ideology, runner up in last leadership election... and in a clash of men in grey suits, chances are the Conservative version would look more authentic than the Labour one.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,638
Deleted member 5849 said:
It'd obviously be Jeremy Hunt as the frontrunner. Long spells in government, vaguely statesmanlike and competent, true Tory ideology, runner up in last leadership election... and in a clash of men in grey suits, chances are the Conservative version would look more authentic than the Labour one.
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I have this sneaky feeling Gove would win
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,639
PVA said:
How do you know it's false?

How do you know others don't find it offensive?

I just think bandying that word out like confetti is pretty awful behaviour and I don't know what you're trying to achieve but it's not a good look.
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Well selective outrage never is
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,640
Now this is a shocker


He’s done nothing but support Boris all along, has even been gifted 2 questions at PMQ’s of the would the PM agree with me that the PM is great type since the partygate story broke.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
I have this sneaky feeling Gove would win
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A bit too quirky and leftfield after Johnson. A bit like football managers, Tory party leaders tend to be quite different in how they present themselves to their predecessors!
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 6, 2022
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skybluetony176 said:
Now this is a shocker


He’s done nothing but support Boris all along, has even been gifted 2 questions at PMQ’s of the would the PM agree with me that the PM is great type since the partygate story broke.
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That's a proper shocker.

Mind you, Johnson's maybe a bit too tolerant of gays for him...
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 6, 2022
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Deleted member 5849 said:
A bit too quirky and leftfield after Johnson. A bit like football managers, Tory party leaders tend to be quite different in how they present themselves to their predecessors!
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And yet surprisingly well liked by the public as Tory stooges go. Certainly the preferred option among the Tory voters I know
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,644
Brighton Sky Blue said:
There is the question of who should succeed him whether now or later. His stooges have stood by and defended the criminal PM and the backbenches are unknowns.
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Didn’t you once remark Tony Blair was a criminal and should be dragged to The Hague for war crimes?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 6, 2022
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
And yet surprisingly well liked by the public as Tory stooges go. Certainly the preferred option among the Tory voters I know
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But after Johnson (and, for that matter, while Starmer is leader of the Labour Party) any kind of leftfield character candidate probably won't play well overall.

The contest isn't for constant Tory voters after all.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 6, 2022
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Grendel said:
Didn’t you once remark Tony Blair was a criminal and should be dragged to The Hague for war crimes?
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Yes and I stand by that. His buddy George who admitted the invasion was bogus can join him.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 6, 2022
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Yes and I stand by that. His buddy George who admitted the invasion was bogus can join him.
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Yet his labour buddies stood by him

Have you recovered from that?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 6, 2022
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Deleted member 5849 said:
But after Johnson (and, for that matter, while Starmer is leader of the Labour Party) any kind of leftfield character candidate probably won't play well overall.

The contest isn't for constant Tory voters after all.
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Well it's Tory members and MPs who choose the leader. Hunt would appear too similar to his wet lettuce opponent
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 6, 2022
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Grendel said:
Yet his labour buddies stood by him

Have you recovered from that?
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The Iraq war was one of the great criminal acts of our time-though it was supported by both sides of the House like it was in the US. Not a dye in the wool Labour voter so yes I am capable of criticising the party and its leaders
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 6, 2022
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Grendel said:
Well selective outrage never is
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Nothing selective about being a c**t though.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Well it's Tory members and MPs who choose the leader. Hunt would appear too similar to his wet lettuce opponent
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But that's the selling point after Johnson - a safe pair of hands who treats government seriously.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jun 6, 2022
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
And yet surprisingly well liked by the public as Tory stooges go. Certainly the preferred option among the Tory voters I know
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Got a few skeletons in his closet by all accounts
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 6, 2022
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Deleted member 5849 said:
But that's the selling point after Johnson - a safe pair of hands who treats government seriously.
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I guess we shall see. They did after all choose a birthday clown to replace dear Theresa
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 6, 2022
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CCFCSteve said:
Got a few skeletons in his closet by all accounts
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The present incumbent has a graveyard in there-like some morbid Narnia
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jun 6, 2022
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
The present incumbent has a graveyard in there-like some morbid Narnia
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Haha, different though

No doubt Goves got a bit about him, intelligent, interesting background etc but as I say, can’t see it happening
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 6, 2022
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
I guess we shall see. They did after all choose a birthday clown to replace dear Theresa
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Recently though, bar the replacement of one balding reactionary with another (and at least Hague was vaguely competent and dynamic!) they've swapped character really.

Thatcher to Major was going for dour after charisma, Major to Duncan-Smith was moderate to righty mental, Cameron was young and pseudo moderate in comparison to having something of the night about him, May was the dour, safe option.

What Hunt can do is present himself quite well, and think on his feet. If I was Labour and Starmer I'd be a lot more worried about him than the mentals who are out there. Chances are after a pretty terrible and chaotic last few years, boring can be a selling point, too!

And what the Tories can do is sell boring better than Labour...
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 6, 2022
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CCFCSteve said:
Haha, different though

No doubt Goves got a bit about him, intelligent, interesting background etc but as I say, can’t see it happening
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Has hung around the scene since the start and is pretty intelligent compared to most of the Cabinet. His dismantling of Piers Morgan was a rare lockdown highlight
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jun 6, 2022
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Recently though, bar the replacement of one balding reactionary with another (and at least Hague was vaguely competent and dynamic!) they've swapped character really.

Thatcher to Major was going for dour after charisma, Major to Duncan-Smith was moderate to righty mental, Cameron was young and pseudo moderate in comparison to having something of the night about him, May was the dour, safe option.

What Hunt can do is present himself quite well, and think on his feet. If I was Labour and Starmer I'd be a lot more worried about him than the mentals who are out there. Chances are after a pretty terrible and chaotic last few years, boring can be a selling point, too!

And what the Tories can do is sell boring better than Labour...
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Agree with this

I’m still hoping someone credible comes out of leftfield

All I’d ask though is whoever’s in charge gets the best people around them in cabinet
 
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Deleted member 5849

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CCFCSteve said:
Agree with this

I’m still hoping someone credible comes out of leftfield

All I’d ask though is whoever’s in charge gets the best people around them in cabinet
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Not sure Rayner, Starmer et al would serve under a Tory leader.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jun 6, 2022
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Has hung around the scene since the start and is pretty intelligent compared to most of the Cabinet. His dismantling of Piers Morgan was a rare lockdown highlight
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He’s probably the best talker/debater they’ve got. I might be wrong but I’m just not convinced he’ll put himself forward for reasons suggested
 
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CCFCSteve said:
He’s probably the best talker/debater they’ve got. I might be wrong but I’m just not convinced he’ll put himself forward for reasons suggested
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He's got an ego, hasn't stopped him trying before (and elbowing Johnson out of one contest, too).
 
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SBT

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  • Jun 6, 2022
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Grendel said:
It’s interesting how you actually don’t give a fuck about Ukraine and their opinions

I couldn’t care about Johnson - im sure he will survive i just laugh at a retard like you. I think retard is actually a very suitable word Mr Retard
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……what the fuck?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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CCFCSteve said:
He’s probably the best talker/debater they’ve got. I might be wrong but I’m just not convinced he’ll put himself forward for reasons suggested
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He hasn't got much to lose by trying I suppose particularly with such a lack of talent
 
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CCFCSteve

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Deleted member 5849 said:
Not sure Rayner, Starmer et al would serve under a Tory leader.
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I said credible
 

FulltimeWum

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  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,665
Brady as an interim before an Election.
 
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