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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,596
Terry Gibson's perm said:
She will be desperate for Johnson to stop as nobody else will want her.
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Same as JRM.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,597
So
Partygate did matter
It was important
And we can’t move on until he has gone
 
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duffer

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,598
Bit busy today, but I'll just leave this here. How the hell did he even get to be PM?

 
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Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,599
Got to love secret ballots.

The question I guess would be how many are actually going to vote against the oaf.

May had 200 - 117
Duncan Smith was on 90 - 75

The rest had a stalking horse running against themselves for the leadership.

Think anything over 100 will be spell out the gradual end for him, and the higher the votes against him, the quicker he will go.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,600
Didn’t JRM say May should go even after winning her VoC?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,601
Sick Boy said:
Didn’t JRM say May should go even after winning her VoC?
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Yep and now claims saying that was his biggest mistake. Just a coincidence I'm sure that he would lose his job when Johnson is kicked out.
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,602
johnson winning will be a disaster for the tories
 
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Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,603
111 Tories have come out in support of Johnson so far.
 

Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,604
Most of these will have paying jobs in Government.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,605
I just knew Nads was going to put on a real show today


 

Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,606
This needs to be remembered for tonight.

 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,607
duffer said:
Bit busy today, but I'll just leave this here. How the hell did he even get to be PM?

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I’m shocked, shocked I tell you. If only we’d had known all this before hand.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,608
Philosorapter said:
111 Tories have come out in support of Johnson so far.
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That’s pretty low. Thatcher resigned after receiving just over 200 votes from a not dissimilar amount of MP’s in the first round of the 1990 leadership contest which was in essence a no confidence vote. He may only need 181 votes but this might run closer than people think. It certainly doesn’t sound like MP’s are running around him in support.
 
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Northants Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,609
Northants Sky Blue said:
Growing sense that a VONC is inevitable, possibly after the by-elections.

He'll obviously win that but anything above 90-100 tory rebels & he's effectively toast.
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Still think 100+ `No's' is significant & anything over 120 is a third of the sitting party.

He's in trouble.
 

Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,610
skybluetony176 said:
That’s pretty low. Thatcher resigned after receiving just over 200 votes from a not dissimilar amount of MP’s in the first round of the 1990 leadership contest which was in essence a no confidence vote. He may only need 181 votes but this might run closer than people think. It certainly doesn’t sound like MP’s are running around him in support.
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Most Tory MPs which will vote in favour of Johnson will be on the Government Payroll, as what has already been pointed out. Let's say 163 MPs, as what JRM said when May had a leadership election. 359 Tory MPs in total, which leaves around 200 Tory MPs who aren't.

Around 60 Tory MPs have already submitted letters of no confidence, leaving 140 Tory MPs left, give or take a couple.

To get around 160 MPs to vote against Johnson tonight will be a huge result.
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,611
Northants Sky Blue said:
Still think 100+ `No's' is significant & anything over 120 is a third of the sitting party.

He's in trouble.
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I agree, I reckon around 130+ will be a medium to look for.
 
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Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,612
Anything over 100+ and he doesn't have the support of the backbenchers.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,613
This can’t be welcome news either

Our snap survey. Fifty-five per cent of ConHome's party member panel say Tory MPs should remove the Prime Minister. | Conservative Home

And 41 per cent say they shouldn't. We've had over a thousand replies in less than a day - the highest return yet this year.
www.conservativehome.com

which probably explains this from the excellent Dan Hodges


Still expecting him to get the 181 votes he needs myself but this is going to be very damaging for him. He’ll be a Theresa May at best after this.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,614
He will win and not go anywhere - there are too many grifters in Parliament looking for jobs off the back of their support for him.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,615
Ian1779 said:
He will win and not go anywhere - there are too many grifters in Parliament looking for jobs off the back of their support for him.
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History does suggest he won’t survive until the next election
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,616
Ahh there he goes again. Using innocent Ukrainians as a meat shield to protect himself.

He truly is a disgusting c**t.


 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,617
PVA said:
Ahh there he goes again. Using innocent Ukrainians as a meat shield to protect himself.

He truly is a disgusting c**t.


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Perhaps he should have said we must ensure Russia aren’t embarrassed by the war and emerge with something

BSB claims the left don’t snark and spit with faux outrage lol
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,618
Grendel said:
Perhaps he should have said we must ensure Russia aren’t embarrassed by the war and emerge with something
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,619
PVA said:
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Hows it deflecting - must really piss you off Johnson is the most respected western leader in Ukraine

Really gets to you doesn’t it?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,620
Remember when he said he was sorry?

Such humility. Such contrition.


 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,621
PVA said:
Remember when he said he was sorry?

Such humility. Such contrition.


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Just heard this on LBC. Bizarre thing to say ! Something like that could seal his fate
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,622
CCFCSteve said:
Just heard this on LBC. Bizarre thing to say ! Something like that could seal his fate
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Can only assume it was a slip of the tongue or a mistake. Surely he wouldn’t intentionally say that?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,623
PVA said:
I can only assume you're very drunk right now.

Otherwise, probably best if you take a break from this place.
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No hardly - I’m just ridiculing your faux anger and nonsense over a word - it’s boring and false
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,624
Grendel said:
No hardly - I’m just ridiculing your faux anger and nonsense over a word - it’s boring and false
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How do you know it's false?

How do you know others don't find it offensive?

I just think bandying that word out like confetti is pretty awful behaviour and I don't know what you're trying to achieve but it's not a good look.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,625
The excellent Dan Hodges

 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,626
skybluetony176 said:
The excellent Dan Hodges

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Better bring out the beer stacked briefcases and get them to the backbenches pronto.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,627
Ooooo.

 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,628
PVA said:
I just knew Nads was going to put on a real show today


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They are words she's said but it's been obvious for many years yet Ian c**t and the other smug cunts looked the other way, despicable people all round
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,629
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2022
  • #14,630
PVA said:
Can only assume it was a slip of the tongue or a mistake. Surely he wouldn’t intentionally say that?
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Nah, he says one thing in the commons and another in private.

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