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stupot07

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  • May 20, 2022
  • #13,896

Boris Johnson under pressure to 'urgently explain' why he privately met Sue Gray to discuss handling of partygate report

Sue Gray and Boris Johnson had a private meeting to discuss the handling of the partygate report, Sky News can reveal. Further details of the meeting are sketchy, with confusion over whether the inclusion of pictures in the report was discussed and who initiated the meeting.
news.sky.com

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Frostie

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  • May 20, 2022
  • #13,897
stupot07 said:

Boris Johnson under pressure to 'urgently explain' why he privately met Sue Gray to discuss handling of partygate report

Sue Gray and Boris Johnson had a private meeting to discuss the handling of the partygate report, Sky News can reveal. Further details of the meeting are sketchy, with confusion over whether the inclusion of pictures in the report was discussed and who initiated the meeting.
news.sky.com

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My only surprise is that people are surprised...


Frostie said:
The cynical side of me says it's because they already know that she will conclude they did little wrong & it will be a complete whitewash.

Don't forget, this is the same Sue Gray who effectively answers to the PM & is of course notorious for guiding MPs how to subvert FOI requests, "double delete" e-mails & cover their tracks.
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Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #13,898
CCFCSteve said:
Political posturing on both sides Pete. I understand the governments position if there is an issue with productivity/safeguarding data etc, but if so prove it. The response, on the surface at least, appears childish
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There's been zero evidence put forward to ahow that productivity is an issue, just like there's zero evidence to justify a target of 91,000 job cuts being made. The insinuation is very much "if we get rid of thousands of these lazy, expensive civil servants we can afford to support 'taxpayers' through the cost of living crisis"
 
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stupot07

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  • May 22, 2022
  • #13,899

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Grendel

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  • May 22, 2022
  • #13,900
God please not Femi
 

Frostie

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  • May 22, 2022
  • #13,901
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 22, 2022
  • #13,902
stupot07 said:

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They don’t give a toss. And the answer is Boris asked one of his staff to make the meeting
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 22, 2022
  • #13,903
On the side of ordinary working people. There hasn’t been a national teachers strike in a decade but of course we are ‘bringing the country to a standstill’.

Tories poised to torpedo unions after threat to bring country ‘to a standstill’

Conservative ministers are planning to break the unions' ‘stranglehold’ on transport and education
www.telegraph.co.uk
 
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Ian1779

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  • May 22, 2022
  • #13,904
Brighton Sky Blue said:
On the side of ordinary working people. There hasn’t been a national teachers strike in a decade but of course we are ‘bringing the country to a standstill’.

Tories poised to torpedo unions after threat to bring country ‘to a standstill’

Conservative ministers are planning to break the unions' ‘stranglehold’ on transport and education
www.telegraph.co.uk
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I’d happily strike to get rid of these feckless wankers.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 22, 2022
  • #13,905
Ian1779 said:
I’d happily strike to get rid of these feckless wankers.
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RMT strikes far more often. Even the Victorians understood what trade unions can do to benefit employers and workers-why isn’t Rees-Mogg speaking up?
 

clint van damme

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  • May 22, 2022
  • #13,906
Brighton Sky Blue said:
On the side of ordinary working people. There hasn’t been a national teachers strike in a decade but of course we are ‘bringing the country to a standstill’.

Tories poised to torpedo unions after threat to bring country ‘to a standstill’

Conservative ministers are planning to break the unions' ‘stranglehold’ on transport and education
www.telegraph.co.uk
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Keith Starmer likes this
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • May 22, 2022
  • #13,907
After 2019, the Tories looked set for another decade in power and they’re complacent now.

If Labour could make real inroads into Scotland, there’s a pathway to power for them. Would rely on Lib Dems making gains in Tory held areas whilst holding off the Green vote.

Knowing the left, it would not surprise me if the Green vote continues to cannibalises the Labour vote. Failure to win in 2024 puts Labour in a very dangerous position.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 22, 2022
  • #13,908
Sky Blue Pete said:
Exactly what’s happening. Government estate rules 6 desks per 10 people! Our new building has 1200 or so for 2000 staff and our bosses are being stupid about making people comeback in without listening to sensible solutions
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If I were the civil service union I'd be trying to organise ensuring everyone followed the desire of the ministers and have everyone turn up to the office. Really look silly when wokers coming into the office are less productive than being at home cos they've got nowhere to work and being sent home.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 22, 2022
  • #13,909
Looks like he only dragged himself out of the hole he dug to get some heavy equipment to dig it deeper before jumping back in. What is wrong with these people

Crispin Blunt: MP should lose whip for Khan remarks - Labour

Crispin Blunt should lose the whip for defending a fellow MP convicted of sex abuse, Labour says.
www.bbc.co.uk
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #13,910
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
If I were the civil service union I'd be trying to organise ensuring everyone followed the desire of the ministers and have everyone turn up to the office. Really look silly when wokers coming into the office are less productive than being at home cos they've got nowhere to work and being sent home.
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Have said it numerous times when senior managers are being infantile with people who have real issues with health or care.
 

chiefdave

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #13,911
Sky Blue Pete said:
Have said it numerous times when senior managers are being infantile with people who have real issues with health or care.
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Its interesting that the people most against staff wfh as they think it means people aren't working are senior managers & directors who had the option to wfh pre-covid.

Given that pretty much all the available data shows, at worst, the same level of productivity you can only assume its a reflection of their own behaviour when they were wfh.
 
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Grendel

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #13,912
chiefdave said:
Its interesting that the people most against staff wfh as they think it means people aren't working are senior managers & directors who had the option to wfh pre-covid.

Given that pretty much all the available data shows, at worst, the same level of productivity you can only assume its a reflection of their own behaviour when they were wfh.
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I don’t think people who work from home are especially concerned about productivity but prefer the lifestyle
 
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shmmeee

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #13,913
Grendel said:
I don’t think people who work from home are especially concerned about productivity but prefer the lifestyle
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And?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #13,914
Grendel said:
I don’t think people who work from home are especially concerned about productivity but prefer the lifestyle
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Why should people do things the hard way if they don’t need to?
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #13,915
We could always turn the council house into student flats to save a bit of money.
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #13,916
And pay the bin workers.
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #13,917
Starting to think it suits the government to keep this story rolling on

 
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PVA

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #13,918
Grendel said:
I don’t think people who work from home are especially concerned about productivity but prefer the lifestyle
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And god forbid people have the lifestyle they prefer.
 
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Mcbean

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #13,919
i had a chap working with me - he was never off the phone to his missus , stuff just didn’t get responded to - wfh is his Uber achievement - he us only working if you are chasing him - we had a cartoon up at work - boss talking to a worker , Why arnt you working ? Worker - I didn’t see you coming !
 
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RegTheDonk

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #13,920
skybluetony176 said:
Starting to think it suits the government to keep this story rolling on

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WTH is a "spox"?
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #13,921
RegTheDonk said:
WTH is a "spox"?
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Think it’s an abbreviation of spokesperson.
 
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David O'Day

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #13,922
pictures of boris drinking wine at a leaving do

well the met certainly has a lot to answer for
 

stupot07

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #13,923
No rules were broken, I've been assured all guidance was adhered to...


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skybluetony176

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #13,924
stupot07 said:
No rules were broken, I've been assured all guidance was adhered to...


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The plot thickens. Other people at this party received fines yet Boris, who was evidently there, didn’t. The Met are going to have some explaining to do

 
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David O'Day

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #13,925
skybluetony176 said:
The plot thickens. Other people at this party received fines yet Boris, who was evidently there, didn’t. The Met are going to have some explaining to do

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the met have proper fucked this
 
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Frostie

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #13,926
skybluetony176 said:
The plot thickens. Other people at this party received fines yet Boris, who was evidently there, didn’t. The Met are going to have some explaining to do

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It will be some ridiculous loophole about it being his home, they sowed the seed for that last week.
 
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PVA

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #13,927
The Met are so bent it's unreal.

I guess they've all got so much dirt on each other they just have to do whatever each other wants.
 

David O'Day

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #13,928
Frostie said:
It will be some ridiculous loophole about it being his home, they sowed the seed for that last week.
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being his home would take away the work event part of his defence
 

duffer

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2022
  • #13,929
Brighton Sky Blue said:
On the side of ordinary working people. There hasn’t been a national teachers strike in a decade but of course we are ‘bringing the country to a standstill’.

Tories poised to torpedo unions after threat to bring country ‘to a standstill’

Conservative ministers are planning to break the unions' ‘stranglehold’ on transport and education
www.telegraph.co.uk
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What I can't understand is how you can bring the country to a standstill by going on strike, if apparently you're doing sod all when you're at work!

Just the usual nasty party bollocks. One rule for them, another for us.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #13,930
duffer said:
What I can't understand is how you can bring the country to a standstill by going on strike, if apparently you're doing sod all when you're at work!

Just the usual nasty party bollocks. One rule for them, another for us.
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I did wonder who they would start blaming once the EU stopped being an option. Turns out it's the 'ordinary hardworking people' they claim to relate to
 
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