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Philosoraptor

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,826
Something to play along with at next PMQ's

 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,827
Deleted member 9744 said:
No it doesn't
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Don’t let me get things wrong again. In my tribunal training with the union it is no longer an automatic suspension for many things. Being arrested for sexual assault is a bit different of course. The reason this was changed is because it does suggest guilt and is a punishment when before investigation there may be no guilt. That was the full answer to above. I’ve had people keep working until they’ve been sacked in allegations of gross misconduct at work
 

Mcbean

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,828
I see Keir Starmer has taken a back seat while beergate is being investigated with the result that Milliband is being promoted to having a Labour say
 
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PVA

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,829
Mcbean said:
I see Keir Starmer has taken a back seat while beergate is being investigated with the result that Milliband is being promoted to having a Labour say
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He's very good these days.

Tore little Rishi a new one yesterday


 
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clint van damme

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,830
PVA said:
He's very good these days.

Tore little Rishi a new one yesterday


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Damning with faint praise but he's a better performer than Starmer in my opinion.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,831
So. A windfall tax on energy companies now make you pro Putin. Someone is going to have to explain that one to me.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,832
clint van damme said:
Damning with faint praise but he's a better performer than Starmer in my opinion.
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I’m half hoping Starmer does get fined and Miliband takes over. Suddenly a man’s ability to eat a bacon sandwich seems irrelevant.
 

David O'Day

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,833
This whole Starmer isn't very good in the HoC, when did this nonsense start? It has no basis in fact
 
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PVA

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,834
David O'Day said:
This whole Starmer isn't very good in the HoC, when did this nonsense start? It has no basis in fact
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It's because he doesn't wave his arms around and gesticulate wildly etc. People think he's boring.

He's not boring he just doesn't try and put on a show. He's just normal. And right now normal sounds pretty good to me.
 
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BodicoteSkyBlue

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,835
Come on then, who’s missing from the Tory benches?
 
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David O'Day

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,836
Fabricant in being a twat shocker
 

clint van damme

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,837
PVA said:
It's because he doesn't wave his arms around and gesticulate wildly etc. People think he's boring.

He's not boring he just doesn't try and put on a show. He's just normal. And right now normal sounds pretty good to me.
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He's just totally uninspiring.
 
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PVA

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,838
David O'Day said:
Fabricant in being a twat shocker
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What's he done now?

Saw this tweet earlier...

'I'm not the rapist LOL! Isn't rape funny!'

Fucking twat.

 

David O'Day

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,839
clint van damme said:
He's just totally uninspiring.
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He regularly owns Johnson at the despatch box which is the very thing Ed Miliband is being praised for.

It's weird as fuck
 

David O'Day

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,840
PVA said:
What's he done now?

Saw this tweet earlier...

'I'm not the rapist LOL! Isn't rape funny!'

Fucking twat.

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Fabricunt
 
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Grendel

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,841
David O'Day said:
He regularly owns Johnson at the despatch box which is the very thing Ed Miliband is being praised for.

It's weird as fuck
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William Hague regularly owned Blair and actually did - Starmer is about as inspiring as IDS
 
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clint van damme

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,842
David O'Day said:
He regularly owns Johnson at the despatch box which is the very thing Ed Miliband is being praised for.

It's weird as fuck
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He does, he just doesnt inspire me.
Nothing to do with policy or anything else, just find him a very dull man.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,843
clint van damme said:
He does, he just doesnt inspire me.
Nothing to do with policy or anything else, just find him a very dull man.
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A competent if dull administrator is surely an upgrade on the current leader, though?
 
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clint van damme

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,844
Deleted member 5849 said:
A competent if dull administrator is surely an upgrade on the current leader, though?
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I'm not saying he wouldn't be. I just find him to be one ofthe dullest politicians out there.
I really don't like Rachael Reeves but find she grabs your attention far more when speaking.

As I say, just my personal opinion.
 
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PVA

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,845
clint van damme said:
I'm not saying he wouldn't be. I just find him to be one ofthe dullest politicians out there.
I really don't like Rachael Reeves but find she grabs your attention far more when speaking.

As I say, just my personal opinion.
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As you say it's totally subjective, but I don't think he's dull - I think he's just serious and on top of his brief (as you'd expect with his background).

Yeah he could probably do with a bit more tone and inflection to his voice, but as NW says I'd rather someone speak seriously than wail about like the clown show opposite him (and I'm not saying that you're suggesting Johnson is a better speaker).
 

David O'Day

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,846
Inflation at 9%
 
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David O'Day

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,847
Some tories want this as their next leader

 
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David O'Day

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,848
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-61491341

Inflation is going to rise more
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,849
The excellent Dan Hodges says that Starmers performance at PMQ’s was so good that a U turn on the windfall tax is now nailed on.
 
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PVA

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,850
David O'Day said:
Inflation at 9%
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Finally something for the Tories to claim we're world leading at

 
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David O'Day

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,851

Officers should use discretion over stealing to eat, says police watchdog

New chief inspector of constabulary says crimes of poverty should be ‘dealt with in the best way possible’
www.theguardian.com

Wow

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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,852
The cost of living crisis is getting serious now in Italy - https://www.thelocal.it/20220517/italy-cafe-owner-fined-e1000-for-overpriced-e2-espresso/
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,853
Sick Boy said:
The cost of living crisis is getting serious now in Italy - https://www.thelocal.it/20220517/italy-cafe-owner-fined-e1000-for-overpriced-e2-espresso/
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I do like how it says several times at the start that the fine was for an overpriced coffee when actually

'The fine however wasn’t due to the espresso’s high price, but because of a rule that requires cafés in Italy to display their prices behind the counter or in a menu.'
 
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duffer

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,854
rob9872 said:
The amount of people naming Francois on Twitter and yet now lots are saying it's Rosindell. I doubt they'll apologise if wrong either way, but labelling someone a rapist on baseless opinion is pretty low whatever side of the divide you're on. In these cases they should either name or say nothing. Saying a man in his 50s from the police is what motivates the poundshop detectives.
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That's a reasonable enough point, there's enough evidenced crime and corruption in the Tory party to go round without adding the unproven stuff to the list. Has it perhaps reached the stage where the party of law and order could just give us a list of those who believe it still applies to them? Shouldn't take long.

All that to one side, I'd genuinely accept it is a fair point.

Remember though, baseless mud slinging about a MPs integrity isn't just limited to twitter. The Home Secretary, no less, accused the whole of the Labour party of defending "murderers, paedophiles, rapists, and thugs". I'm sure you're similarly concerned about that kind of slur too?

Queen's Speech: Priti Patel accuses Labour MPs of defending 'murderers, paedophiles, rapists, thugs' in debate on law and order

Priti Patel also claimed that immigration lawyers and Labour members have previously begged her not to deport "dangerous foreign criminals".
news.sky.com
 
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duffer

Well-Known Member
  • May 18, 2022
  • #13,855
David O'Day said:

Officers should use discretion over stealing to eat, says police watchdog

New chief inspector of constabulary says crimes of poverty should be ‘dealt with in the best way possible’
www.theguardian.com

Wow

Sent from my SM-G991B using Tapatalk
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shmmeee

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  • May 19, 2022
  • #13,856
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • May 19, 2022
  • #13,857
Five…someone likes to party !!! Govey on the rave

Acting Deputy Commissioner Helen Ball said: 'In total we have made 126 referrals for a fixed-penalty notice to be issued.. 28 people have been referred for between two and five fixed-penalty notices.
 
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AOM

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  • May 19, 2022
  • #13,858
duffer said:
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The current Tory Cabinet

 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 19, 2022
  • #13,859
CCFCSteve said:
Five…someone likes to party !!! Govey on the rave

Acting Deputy Commissioner Helen Ball said: 'In total we have made 126 referrals for a fixed-penalty notice to be issued.. 28 people have been referred for between two and five fixed-penalty notices.
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Apparently Downing St is responsible for almost 1% of FPN issued in London. That’s staggering. There’s over 6000 streets in London with an average of 412 people living in each one.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • May 19, 2022
  • #13,860
skybluetony176 said:
Apparently Downing St is responsible for almost 1% of FPN issued in London. That’s staggering. There’s over 6000 streets in London with an average of 412 people living in each one.
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I think it probably represents 100% of the retrospective fines though…possibly for the whole country. I’m not condoning what happened, it was wrong, however, the police would’ve turned a blind eye to most potential breaches during the pandemic yet couldn't here. If they investigated all of them like these Id imagine millions of people would’ve been fined and the police wouldn’t have been doing anything else for years

We now have the ridiculous situation where Simon Case (Cabinet Secretary) hasn’t been fined even though he expected to be, Johnson and his missus not fined for the Abba party and yet Rishi Sunak fined for walking into a meeting early and singing happy birthday ?! As I’ve alluded to before as soon as it comes down to loose interpretation it’s going to get messy.

I also read yesterday that six police are investigating Starmers event over a six week period. I appreciate it’s not a popular opinion but what an absolute waste of police time. All this for £3k of fines so far from hundreds of thousands (probably millions) of police time spent on the matter

On to the Sue Gray report which in my eyes might be far more important in the grand scheme of things
 
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