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Grendel

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  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,511
Going on for another month

Police consider interviewing Starmer face to face over Beergate claims

News comes as it emerges Labour is preparing dossier to show team worked late on night in question
www.theguardian.com
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,512
PVA said:
How dare Sir Beer put pressure on the police by, er... Erm. How dare he!

Wouldn't catch whiter than white Tories carrying out such behaviour would you?


Five Tory MPs breached code of conduct by trying to influence judge in Charlie Elphicke sex assault trial, committee rules

Charlie Elphicke was suspended from the Conservatives in 2017 after he was accused of sexual offences against two members of staff, and later sentenced to two years in prison.
news.sky.com
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There is no comparison the comparison is Blair as it’s a direct copy cat strategy and the police admitted they backed off
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,513
Grendel said:
There is no comparison the comparison is Blair as it’s a direct copy cat strategy and the police admitted they backed off
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OK Dan.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,514
Even Kevin maguire hardly thinks it’s playing a blinder and Starmer was under pressure internally to make the announcement
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,515
Grendel said:
Even Kevin maguire hardly thinks it’s playing a blinder and Starmer was under pressure internally to make the announcement
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Does he?

 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,516
Grendel said:
There is no comparison the comparison is Blair as it’s a direct copy cat strategy and the police admitted they backed off
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Boris stood up in parliament and told the whole country (pretty sure that includes the police) that no rules were broken. Was Boris attempting to influence the police?
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,517
Grendel said:
Why did Starmer say Cummings was guilty when he now admits he didn’t break any rules at Barnard Castle?
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Also not sure Starmer said what you’re saying he did. In fact if you look at what was printed at the time it looks like he took flack for not saying what you’re claiming he said. For example

Starmer has stayed out of Cummings fight so No 10 can't make it a political row

The Labour leader has taken a more measured approach to the controversy than other Opposition leaders
inews.co.uk
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,518
Brighton Sky Blue said:
That’s not an answer though is it
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Im not justifying it, I’m just saying political parties and papers will play politics to gain an advantage over their opposition and play to their crowd. Labour/left leaning papers were doing with the initial FPNs issued to Sunak and Johnson, now right wing papers/Tories are trying to take advantage of the Starmer situation.

I’ve said before, whilst I understand peoples justifiable anger/upset at potential rule breaking, I’d rather both sides focus on the post pandemic shitstorm that’s developing here and around the world and how we’re going to get ourselves through it
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,519
skybluetony176 said:
Doesn’t seem to be anything on the Mails twitter feed regarding Starmers statement. Looks like Harry and Megan are public enemy No.1 again.
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The Mail’s obsession with them is unhinged.
 
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clint van damme

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  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,520
shmmeee said:
I’m case anyone who isn’t a full time troll thinks the Mail is a serious paper:

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This sudden all out attack on Starmer is nothing to do with Labour's announcement it will end non dom status.
The fact their owner is a non dom is pure coincidence
 
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PVA

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  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,521
The Queen's (or Charles', as it was) speech was a load of old shit this morning.

Charles seemed to be reading it with disdain as well.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,522
CCFCSteve said:
Im not justifying it, I’m just saying political parties and papers will play politics to gain an advantage over their opposition and play to their crowd. Labour/left leaning papers were doing with the initial FPNs issued to Sunak and Johnson, now right wing papers/Tories are trying to take advantage of the Starmer situation.

I’ve said before, whilst I understand peoples justifiable anger/upset at potential rule breaking, I’d rather both sides focus on the post pandemic shitstorm that’s developing here and around the world and how we’re going to get ourselves through it
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See, my way of having faith we can deal with upcoming issues is by having faith that the rule makers know and keep to the rules they made!

...and we haven't even got into the care home scandal...
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,523
CCFCSteve said:
Im not justifying it, I’m just saying political parties and papers will play politics to gain an advantage over their opposition and play to their crowd. Labour/left leaning papers were doing with the initial FPNs issued to Sunak and Johnson, now right wing papers/Tories are trying to take advantage of the Starmer situation.

I’ve said before, whilst I understand peoples justifiable anger/upset at potential rule breaking, I’d rather both sides focus on the post pandemic shitstorm that’s developing here and around the world and how we’re going to get ourselves through it
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The left newspapers were ‘playing politics’ over Johnson and his ministers breaking all kinds of their own laws? That sounds like what Johnson would say himself.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,524
Sick Boy said:
The Mail’s obsession with them is unhinged.
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Dan Hodges twitter feed is hilarious. He basically seems very annoyed that Kier Starmer is playing by the rules. He now insists that if Starmer did anything else he has to incriminate himself.
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,525
About sums it up

 
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PVA

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  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,526
skybluetony176 said:
Dan Hodges twitter feed is hilarious. He basically seems very annoyed that Kier Starmer is playing by the rules. He now insists that if Starmer did anything else he has to incriminate himself.
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He genuinely seems to be having a bit of a mental breakdown.
 
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Northants Sky Blue

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  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,527

Starmer's pretense of principle proves him a duplicitous double-dealer who, wait, I’m f**king lost here, by a right-wing columnist

KEIR Stamer’s latest underhand move proves he is playing petty politics with police lives and hang on, I’m out of my f**king depth here.
www.thedailymash.co.uk
 
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shmmeee

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  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,528
Don’t tell the excellent Dan Hodges, but I’ve been getting away with not breaking the law for years now.
 
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stupot07

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  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,529
shmmeee said:
Don’t tell the excellent Dan Hodges, but I’ve been getting away with not breaking the law for years now.
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I'm a master non criminal.

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
 
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Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,530
Surely, next day delivery by 9.00am would have been cheaper.

The day we become a Republic can't come soon enough.

 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,531
There’s a serious shitstorm brewing all of Boris’ making

 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,532
Hodges channeling his inner Grendel after 12 pints:

 
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Grendel

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  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,533
Sir Korma needs a hotter curry

 
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fernandopartridge

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  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,534
I think the prolonged fuss over partygate is a perfect example of why people are disengaged with genuine political issues. What a waste of time it is.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,535
shmmeee said:
Hodges channeling his inner Grendel after 12 pints:

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Apparently it was a wind up post. Although it’s become hard to tell the last couple of days as he’s become a parody of himself.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,536
fernandopartridge said:
I think the prolonged fuss over partygate is a perfect example of why people are disengaged with genuine political issues. What a waste of time it is.
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in all seriousness it’s really embarrassing - How long was Johnson in the room abd was the cake a surprise, were people sharing poppadoms and Durham abs did they socially distance

Starmer yesterday pleading I stopped work for something to eat.

It’s a joke
 
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PVA

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  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,537
Grendel said:
in all seriousness it’s really embarrassing - How long was Johnson in the room abd was the cake a surprise, were people sharing poppadoms and Durham abs did they socially distance

Starmer yesterday pleading I stopped work for something to eat.

It’s a joke
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I don't know how many times you need to be told the two events were at different times with different rules.
 
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Grendel

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  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,538
PVA said:
I don't know how many times you need to be told the two events were at different times with different rules.
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Case closed

Better tell the Durham police then
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,539
Grendel said:
Case closed

Better tell the Durham police then
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I think you'll find Durham police are well aware, hence they found no wrongdoing.
 

Grendel

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  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,540
PVA said:
I think you'll find Durham police are well aware, hence they found no wrongdoing.
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As they didn’t with Dominic Cummings yet Starmer accused him of breaking the rules

Tut tut why didn’t Mr Starmer defend Cummings and say he was innocent?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,541
Grendel said:
in all seriousness it’s really embarrassing - How long was Johnson in the room abd was the cake a surprise, were people sharing poppadoms and Durham abs did they socially distance

Starmer yesterday pleading I stopped work for something to eat.

It’s a joke
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It is a joke, and I'd have more respect if MPs came out and said:

1. Yes there probably were breaches of the rules that existed at either time
2. The rules were illogical and unclear
3. The SoS had excessive power to make those rules without any proper oversight
4. Fines for similar breaches should be compensated by the government through a special scheme

Then just get on with doing something useful
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,542
Grendel said:
Sir Korma needs a hotter curry

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Any other person eating a curry would be 20 pints ahead
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,543
fernandopartridge said:
It is a joke, and I'd have more respect if MPs came out and said:

1. Yes there probably were breaches of the rules that existed at either time
2. The rules were illogical and unclear
3. The SoS had excessive power to make those rules without any proper oversight
4. Fines for similar breaches should be compensated by the government through a special scheme

Then just get on with doing something useful
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Exactly of course this all plays into the Tories hands. It’s an irrelevance - it’s similar to the pre election perogue parliament nonsense and government defeats

A lot of smug people were laughing on here but as I said at the time every commons defeat for Johnson was a seat won at the general election
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,544
Grendel said:
As they didn’t with Dominic Cummings yet Starmer accused him of breaking the rules

Tut tut why didn’t Mr Starmer defend Cummings and say he was innocent?
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OK Dan.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2022
  • #13,545
PVA said:
OK Dan.
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Keep going. You actually I think believe people will look at specifics - no they won’t they see one privileged twat with a cake and another privileged twat with a Biryani no doubt paid on expenses

That’s what the average non Parisian voter sees - keep going it’s a great deflection - all Starmer does is whine he had something to eat and that’s all people are seeing from him - I doubt he’s going hungry
 
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