skybluetony176
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I see Glen Owens colleagues are rallying around because he’s the real victim in the Angela Rayner Basic Instinct story.
I see Glen Owens colleagues are rallying around because he’s the real victim in the Angela Rayner Basic Instinct story.
You can keep saying that and it still isn't true. You can keep missing the fact he passed his eleven plus to go there, and when he went there it was a school like Lawrence Sheriff, picking the brightest.The toolmaker also paid his fees at his private school
The toolmaker also paid his fees at his private school
Because it makes it easier to say he isn’t a man of the people if you lie about his education.Why would he pay fees he didn’t need to?
Because it makes it easier to say he isn’t a man of the people if you lie about his education.
Not sure why that’s important. Surely policy is key.I guess what matters more is if he comes across as a man of the people. He doesn’t.
Not sure why that’s important. Surely policy is key.
You can keep saying that and it still isn't true. You can keep missing the fact he passed his eleven plus to go there, and when he went there it was a school like Lawrence Sheriff, picking the brightest.
It changed to a fee paying school while he was there
It changed to a fee paying school while he was there
And he was exempt from fees as he got in under the 11+, so why would his father be paying anything?
He didn't pay any fees. Which bit of this are you struggling with?
Im not. He benefitted from selective private education. Doubt he’s be there if he was in a secondary modern / comp dump would you?
John McDonnell never paid for his £36,000 a year boarding school either
You said he paid fees.
He.didn't.pay.any.fees.
Hope that helps.
Have you had 14 pints again?
well it seems you that’s having trouble reading
Many real labour party members have an issue with Sir Smarmer - as evidenced that many northern voters didn’t want him
Real labour voters on this forum have major concerns as well
Given your whole time on here is spent linking twitter items accompanied by some sound bite it’s ironic but I guess not surprising you want no discussion on anything
Many labour voters share the concern I am referring to - do you deny that
What are you rambling on about.
Many Labour voters have concerns about Keir Starmer - is this supposed to be some stunning revelation? Of course they do. Plenty like him.
Many Tory voters have concerns about Johnson, many like him. What's your point?
Pretending you didn't say things you clearly did. Pissed as a fart at 9am.
Anyone who has an issue on here you label Corbyn fans
I think l asked you name anything positive about Starmer
you answered something along the lines of “he’s not a Tory” all tories are “cap doffers” and when you really need to get into a bit of a detailed analysis you produce what I believe is a Harry Enfield “Tory boy” GIf
It’s not exactly Brian Walden type of political debate on here is it
Stop windmilling.
Just admit you made a tit of yourself over Starmer's school fees and we can move on.
well it seems you that’s having trouble reading
Many real labour party members have an issue with Sir Smarmer - as evidenced that many northern voters didn’t want him
Real labour voters on this forum have major concerns as well
Given your whole time on here is spent linking twitter items accompanied by some sound bite it’s ironic but I guess not surprising you want no discussion on anything
Many labour voters share the concern I am referring to - do you deny that
@shmmeee You laugh, but can you seriously say that policy is what decides elections?
I didn’t - where did I say he paid the fees?
The toolmaker also paid his fees at his private school
I didn’t say that. I’m laughing that someone who’s main issues were the pronunciation of Coventry and that Labours position on schools during the pandemic didn’t match the most militant of unions is complaining others don’t care about policy over fluff.
You know a Labour government would be closer than a Tory one on pretty much every policy issue you care about. Yet you still pretend it wouldn’t.
I think getting closest to voter concerns and being credible is what wins elections, not naval gazing about whether every member of a party is having their personal needs met. I think generally voters are risk averse and party members would do well to understand that when trying to get elected just looking for the votes of party members isn’t a winning strategy.
Where did I say those were my main priorities? The last time education unions went on national strike was years ago. The unions were right to flag that schools are infection hotspots and there was little thought put in to the consequences of reopening them. Smarmer laughing at the profession with Johnson felt pretty insulting.
Labour policy was immensely popular in 2017-we didn’t win. In fact each and every time an election comes around the public prefer Labour policy but the Tories have won the last 4 in a row. Because policy is not the main driving factor in how most people vote.
Individual Labour policies were popular. Labours manifesto as a whole wasn’t.
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