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FulltimeWum

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  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #12,601
The Mail has slipped lower than I ever thought possible.

Vile effort today.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #12,602
FulltimeWum said:
The Mail has slipped lower than I ever thought possible.

Vile effort today.
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Backfiring too. Tory MP’s male and female expressing disgust at the story. Operation save big dog fails again.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #12,603
Ffs she has to maintain a focus when faced with the equivalent of Quasimodo.
Get over over yourself, abortion of a man.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #12,604
skybluetony176 said:
Backfiring too. Tory MP’s male and female expressing disgust at the story. Operation save big dog fails again.
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What is it?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #12,605
Sky Blue Pete said:
What is it?
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“Some” Tories have allegedly given the Mail on Sunday a story that Angela Rayner has been doing Sharon Stone Basic Instinct leg crossing when Boris is at the dispatch box to put him off. Not even making that up. That is an actual story in the MOS.

 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #12,606
skybluetony176 said:
“Some” Tories have allegedly given the Mail on Sunday a story that Angela Rayner has been doing Sharon Stone Basic Instinct leg crossing when Boris is at the dispatch box to put him off. Not even making that up. That is an actual story in the MOS.

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Woman in wearing skirt shocker. Absolutely pathetic. Are they in Y9 Maths or the House of Commons?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #12,607
shmmeee said:
Woman in wearing skirt shocker. Absolutely pathetic. Are they in Y9 Maths or the House of Commons?
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Not had to grow up
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #12,608
skybluetony176 said:
“Some” Tories have allegedly given the Mail on Sunday a story that Angela Rayner has been doing Sharon Stone Basic Instinct leg crossing when Boris is at the dispatch box to put him off. Not even making that up. That is an actual story in the MOS.

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Fucking hell.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #12,609
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #12,610
CCFCSteve said:
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That I assume is Holyrood
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #12,611
shmmeee said:
Woman in wearing skirt shocker. Absolutely pathetic. Are they in Y9 Maths or the House of Commons?
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The way they behave in the house I'd suggest year 9 is too old
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #12,612
Macron beats Le Pen
 
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #12,613
PVA said:
Macron beats Le Pen
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Be nice if he reflected over his next term on how she got to the run off twice.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #12,614
Hopefully Le Pen fucks off for good now.
 

JAM See

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #12,615
France
Stupidity 42%
Common sense 58%

UK
Stupidity 52%
Common sense 48%


...Nothing more to add really.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #12,616
PVA said:
Macron beats Le Pen
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Wonder how @Astute voted.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #12,617
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Wonder how @Astute voted.
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Probably for both.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #12,618
Sick Boy said:
Probably for both.
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I’m not sure if Le Pen would accept Sunderland as a département.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #12,619
Ian1779 said:
Be nice if he reflected over his next term on how she got to the run off twice.
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Especially considering a lot of her domestic and economic policy was very similar to melenchons....

What was the turnout btw?
 

tisza

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  • Apr 25, 2022
  • #12,620
Ian1779 said:
Be nice if he reflected over his next term on how she got to the run off twice.
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Parliamentary elections in summer could "force" him to reflect
 

skybluetony176

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  • Apr 25, 2022
  • #12,621
Do you think that they ever tire of making themselves look stupid

 
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Frostie

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  • Apr 25, 2022
  • #12,622
skybluetony176 said:
Do you think that they ever tire of making themselves look stupid

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She was probably too busy on the tennis pitch or downstreaming on the world's safest internet to write her own.
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 25, 2022
  • #12,623
 
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jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Apr 25, 2022
  • #12,624
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Especially considering a lot of her domestic and economic policy was very similar to melenchons....

What was the turnout btw?
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Turnout was the lowest since 1969......and thats including the 3+ million spoiled/blank protest votes.

A huge chunk of Macrons vote was not any kind of endorsement.....just votes to keep Le Pen out.

Also, this election has highlighted the major flaws of the two-round run-off system, where the 2 nationalist parties polled over 45% compared to Macrons 27%. It then relies on endorsements (or lack of them) for the 2nd round.
A very effective way of alienating about 50% of your electorate.

No wonder the French Press were stating it was "like choosing between Cholera or the plague"
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 25, 2022
  • #12,625
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
A huge chunk of Macrons vote was not any kind of endorsement.....just votes to keep Le Pen out.
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That's how a lot of elections go though.

Certainly the last general election here - many people voted, depending on which side of they fence they were on, to keep either Johnson or Corbyn out. I know I did.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 25, 2022
  • #12,626
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Turnout was the lowest since 1969......and thats including the 3+ million spoiled/blank protest votes.

A huge chunk of Macrons vote was not any kind of endorsement.....just votes to keep Le Pen out.

Also, this election has highlighted the major flaws of the two-round run-off system, where the 2 nationalist parties polled over 45% compared to Macrons 27%. It then relies on endorsements (or lack of them) for the 2nd round.
A very effective way of alienating about 50% of your electorate.

No wonder the French Press were stating it was "like choosing between Cholera or the plague"
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How can it be 50% of the electorate when as you point out it was a record low turnout, almost 30% didn’t turn out in either first or second round. So you’re talking about 45% of the 70% turnout of the electorate. She’d have won if it was like you’ve presented it, an even narrower victory than Macron but she’d still have won.

In the UK 70% turnout would also be considered a decent turnout. You’ve got to go back to 1997 in the UK to see that turnout. It wasn’t a great result for Macron by any stretch of the imagination but it’s not as bad as your making out.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2022
  • #12,627
PVA said:
That's how a lot of elections go though.

Certainly the last general election here - many people voted, depending on which side of they fence they were on, to keep either Johnson or Corbyn out. I know I did.
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The system is bizarre - the two left of centre parties blew each other out.

73% of the electorate who could even be arsed to vote voted against him.

Don’t think he’s going to have much backing in the parliamentary elections
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2022
  • #12,628
Grendel said:
The system is bizarre - the two left of centre parties blew each other out.

73% of the electorate who could even be arsed to vote voted against him.

Don’t think he’s going to have much backing in the parliamentary elections
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He won a larger percentage of the vote on a bigger turnout than Boris did in 2019.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2022
  • #12,629
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Especially considering a lot of her domestic and economic policy was very similar to melenchons....

What was the turnout btw?
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Reuters article saying melanchon has a strong chance of being Prime Minister - that will be fun
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 25, 2022
  • #12,630
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2022
  • #12,631
skybluetony176 said:
How can it be 50% of the electorate when as you point out it was a record low turnout, almost 30% didn’t turn out in either first or second round. So you’re talking about 45% of the 70% turnout of the electorate.
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No. You misunderstood.
I was referring to the 50% of all votes cast in round one that are then effectively binned as only the leading 2 candidates progress to round 2......
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2022
  • #12,632
PVA said:
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Yeah, I read over the weekend it was getting close and a certainly that a confidence vote was on the way…potentially with Johnson then pushing for an earlier than anticipated election to dissuade dissenters from ousting him (hmmm, not sure that’s wise)

With May elections, end of Met investigation and possibly Gray report release it’s going to be an interesting couple of weeks !
 

skybluetony176

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  • Apr 25, 2022
  • #12,633
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
No. You misunderstood.
I was referring to the 50% of all votes cast in round one that are then effectively binned as only the leading 2 candidates progress to round 2......
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No I didn’t. Turnout in round one was about 70% so at best it’s 45% of 70% of the electorate as only 70% of the electorate turned out. So about 32% of the electorate in round one voted for the right not nearly 50% as you claimed.

Not sure who you’re lumping in with Le Pen either as another party with her values to make it up to 45% let alone 50%. I would assume the French Republican Party but they’re a centre right party not far right and unlike Le Pen very much pro EU and pro NATO so nothing like Le Pen.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Apr 25, 2022
  • #12,634
This is pretty pathetic.

 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 25, 2022
  • #12,635
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
No. You misunderstood.
I was referring to the 50% of all votes cast in round one that are then effectively binned as only the leading 2 candidates progress to round 2......
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Why bother. I think Tony believes macron is prime minister and not president
 
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