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Advie

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  • Apr 21, 2022
  • #12,566
Nah, I doubt it. He's worked out you don't need to be at the top to get what you want.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2022
  • #12,567
Grendel said:
Jesus Christ
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Doubt it. Not right wing enough for the Brexit loons.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2022
  • #12,568
fernandopartridge said:
What a silly country this is. We're in a massive economic slump with the standard of living of many on the decline if not putting them into genuine poverty, but the thing that brings down the Prime Minister and the media's focus is on breaching some restrictions (such as being able to work with somebody but not socialise with them) which were and are ridiculous.

This is not to say by any means I don't accept that Johnson should go and what he did was wrong, it just feels pretty immaterial to me now (though I'm fortunate to not have been somebody who couldn't attend a loved ones funeral etc).

I'd be suspicious of Baker and the ERG loons, gawd knows who they have got lined up next....
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you take the wins you can get
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2022
  • #12,569
PVA said:
Doubt it. Not right wing enough for the Brexit loons.
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Patel would have sent him to Rwanda.
Cooper would have abstained on the vote to do so.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2022
  • #12,570
Ian1779 said:
Patel would have sent him to Rwanda.
Cooper would have abstained on the vote to do so.
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Truss would ask why he's named after a well known phrase
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2022
  • #12,571
PVA said:
I'd imagine Baker himself fancies a crack at it.
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By all accounts he’s currently polling to lose his seat to Labour. Having already lost a shit load of votes to labour in 2019 his motives may be more about him rather than Boris. If you were being sceptical.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2022
  • #12,572
The “we’ve got things to get on with like dealing with the cost of living” line isn’t standing up. Hot of the press from yesterday’s news that even the four big energy supplier’s are saying that the government aren’t doing enough to help with the cost of living it’s being reported that the government’s own work group tasked with dealing with the cost of living hasn’t met in 6 months.
 
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stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2022
  • #12,573
skybluetony176 said:
The “we’ve got things to get on with like dealing with the cost of living” line isn’t standing up. Hot of the press from yesterday’s news that even the four big energy supplier’s are saying that the government aren’t doing enough to help with the cost of living it’s being reported that the government’s own work group tasked with dealing with the cost of living hasn’t met in 6 months.
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I know, they've just had an opportunity to deal with it and failed in the Spring statement just a few weeks ago.

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2022
  • #12,574
skybluetony176 said:
The “we’ve got things to get on with like dealing with the cost of living” line isn’t standing up. Hot of the press from yesterday’s news that even the four big energy supplier’s are saying that the government aren’t doing enough to help with the cost of living it’s being reported that the government’s own work group tasked with dealing with the cost of living hasn’t met in 6 months.
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Last time it was Covid or Brexit. Genius tactics to have a PM who lurches from one crisis to another so can never be removed because we’re always in the middle of a crisis.
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 21, 2022
  • #12,575
shmmeee said:
Last time it was Covid or Brexit. Genius tactics to have a PM who lurches from one crisis to another so can never be removed because we’re always in the middle of a crisis.
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Don't forget the war!

Boris is on the front lines don't you know so we can't criticise him while there's a war going on (that we're not involved in).
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2022
  • #12,576
skybluetony176 said:
The “we’ve got things to get on with like dealing with the cost of living” line isn’t standing up. Hot of the press from yesterday’s news that even the four big energy supplier’s are saying that the government aren’t doing enough to help with the cost of living it’s being reported that the government’s own work group tasked with dealing with the cost of living hasn’t met in 6 months.
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The big 4 saying that actually there isn't a market for utilities at all
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2022
  • #12,577
It's a cost of living crisis as much because 14 years after the financial crash that wages have not recovered as it is the more recent inflationary pressures.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2022
  • #12,578
The 'he's very busy dealing with the war/don't they know there's a war on?' line doesn't really work when he's cosplaying over in India and sucking up to a country that has refused to condemn Putin.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2022
  • #12,579
PVA said:
The 'he's very busy dealing with the war/don't they know there's a war on?' line doesn't really work when he's cosplaying over in India and sucking up to a country that has refused to condemn Putin.
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Pfft. Details.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2022
  • #12,580
Tommo1993 said:
How can you constantly break the ministerial code (as PM!!) and not resign?
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"You've broken the ministerial code - you should resign!"
"What says I should resign?"
"The ministerial code"
"So the thing I've already broken is the thing that tells me to resign?"
"Yes"
"Well, as I already ignored it I think I'll just ignore it again, thank you very much"
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Apr 21, 2022
  • #12,581
fernandopartridge said:
What a silly country this is. We're in a massive economic slump with the standard of living of many on the decline if not putting them into genuine poverty, but the thing that brings down the Prime Minister and the media's focus is on breaching some restrictions (such as being able to work with somebody but not socialise with them) which were and are ridiculous.

This is not to say by any means I don't accept that Johnson should go and what he did was wrong, it just feels pretty immaterial to me now (though I'm fortunate to not have been somebody who couldn't attend a loved ones funeral etc).

I'd be suspicious of Baker and the ERG loons, gawd knows who they have got lined up next....
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I agree that in the grand scheme of things he's got a rap sheet of worse things longer than your arm, but as seems to be the way it's the smaller things that stick

*though I'm uncomfortable using the word smaller as it won't seem small to those who were unable to say goodbye to loved ones etc due to the restrictions he ignored.
 

Frostie

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  • Apr 22, 2022
  • #12,582


 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 22, 2022
  • #12,583
Frostie said:


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Who or what is a Tugendhat
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2022
  • #12,584
But they're getting on with the job and doing everything they can to ease the cost of living crisis.

Cunts.


"The government’s working group to address the cost living has not met for six months despite surging energy prices, The Independent has learned.

The inter-ministerial group on the cost of living last met in early November 2021 but has since ground to a complete halt with no meetings held since the beginning of the Partygate scandal."


Government’s cost of living work group has not met for six months

Ministers have not held a meeting of the body since the start of the Partygate scandal
www.independent.co.uk
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2022
  • #12,585
This is bollocks also. We have an agreement with India called a Generalised System of Preference which is basically a free trade deal. No doubt it will be a Brexit “bonus” when the reality is the GSP was a rollover arrangement from the EU so we had it anyway.

 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2022
  • #12,586
I’ll just make the point again. Sunak ruled out a windfall tax on energy companies to use to offset the energy price cap like most European countries because it would stifle investment. He never clarified investment in what but some clever sod on here (me) pointed out that it would stifle spend on the high street at the cost of this unspecified investment.

In unrelated news the excellent Dan Hodges


The country is spiralling uncontrollably.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2022
  • #12,587
skybluetony176 said:
I’ll just make the point again. Sunak ruled out a windfall tax on energy companies to use to offset the energy price cap like most European countries because it would stifle investment. He never clarified investment in what but some clever sod on here (me) pointed out that it would stifle spend on the high street at the cost of this unspecified investment.

In unrelated news the excellent Dan Hodges


The country is spiralling uncontrollably.
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Yeah, but fucking off to India on the pretence of a trqde deal helped him escape the flak and meet up with his fellow right wing dog whistler, a grade A pair of wankers.
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Apr 22, 2022
  • #12,588
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2022
  • #12,589
Starting to think Boris might not actually be able to style this out. If his MP’s in marginals are panicking

 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Apr 22, 2022
  • #12,590
skybluetony176 said:
Starting to think Boris might not actually be able to style this out. If his MP’s in marginals are panicking

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He's styled everything else out in his career!
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2022
  • #12,591
She's so, so bad.

 
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AOM

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  • Apr 22, 2022
  • #12,592
PVA said:
She's so, so bad.

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Reminds me so much of this:

 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2022
  • #12,593
The 'It's only a birthday cake' and 'he was only there for 9 minutes' arguments will look pretty stupid when he gets fined for attending a cheese and wine party.


 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2022
  • #12,594
PVA said:
The 'It's only a birthday cake' and 'he was only there for 9 minutes' arguments will look pretty stupid when he gets fined for attending a cheese and wine party.


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This was always going to be the issue for Johnson. The birthday one as a stand-alone breach might not have caused lasting damage. Others will do, especially this one if it’s ever proven that he knew about it in advance and the ‘Abba party’ in November. As mentioned, the whole lying to the House will come far more into play as well.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2022
  • #12,595
skybluetony176 said:
I’ll just make the point again. Sunak ruled out a windfall tax on energy companies to use to offset the energy price cap like most European countries because it would stifle investment. He never clarified investment in what but some clever sod on here (me) pointed out that it would stifle spend on the high street at the cost of this unspecified investment.

In unrelated news the excellent Dan Hodges


The country is spiralling uncontrollably.
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I’d imagine the UK and some of EU will probably either go into recession or close to it by some point next year (America might be a bit later). You cannot print 100s of billions and in americas case trillions and not expect some consequences with regard to inflation…especially when added to pent up post Covid demand. The Western world appears to now be reliant on QE and ridiculously low interest rates so as soon the printing stops/balance sheets start to unwind and rates are increased even a bit, the whole system creaks. Add to that energy inflation and some foods, due to the war and unfortunately there will be some trouble ahead as we all try, and possibly fail, to ween ourselves off it

The government can’t help everyone but as I’ve said, at least get the uplift in UC back in asap. Extra assistance with energy will come before winter

Happy Friday (sorry)
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2022
  • #12,596
Is the French election the post pointless thing ever. Supporters can’t stand macron or le penn and the least right wing version wins
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Apr 22, 2022
  • #12,597
PVA said:
She's so, so bad.

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Can't help but feel that was scripted for her by a member of staff to deliberately find out if she'd just repeat or spot the obvious errors.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2022
  • #12,598
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Can't help but feel that was scripted for her by a member of staff to deliberately find out if she'd just repeat or spot the obvious errors.
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The Ron Burgundy of the Tories. She will read what is on the teleprompter?
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2022
  • #12,599
In other “political” news there’s a very funny tiff going on on twitter between Farage and Morgan over Trump. It’s like a cock waving competition at a convention for men afflicted with micro penises. Hilarious.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 22, 2022
  • #12,600
skybluetony176 said:
Starting to think Boris might not actually be able to style this out. If his MP’s in marginals are panicking

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He's my local MP the little weasel
 
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