Whether you like his politics/policies or not, this is just outstanding.
Yep.....no fan of his but that was a good speech....... finally.....
Well given everything that’s happened he should at least be as high in the ratings as Corbyn in the 2017 election he isn’t
Starmer will screw up over a Brexit question in the next two years - it’s also clear from her body language Rayner can’t stomach him and the unions tolerate him through gritted teeth
Can’t see any leader saying Brexit was a good idea in 2 years time so unless you’re suggesting that he’s going to say it was a good idea…Well given everything that’s happened he should at least be as high in the ratings as Corbyn in the 2017 election he isn’t
Starmer will screw up over a Brexit question in the next two years - it’s also clear from her body language Rayner can’t stomach him and the unions tolerate him through gritted teeth
I think he’s more angry than he is sorry.He is sorry there is no doubt.
Sorry he was caught
Shouldn't the speaker, or someone, actually do something about this. Surely you can't just keep blatantly lying in parliament with no comeback while anyone who says you are lying gets kicked out.Lying in the Commons again.
But of course if you call him a liar you get chucked out.
Government is tabling an amendment to kick the vote for the Committee review until the police investigation is over and Sue Gray has released her report.
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Government is tabling an amendment to kick the vote for the Committee review until the police investigation is over and Sue Gray has released her report.
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Didn’t they promise to learn the lessons from the Owen Patterson debacle. They seem to have forgotten them already, not even been 6 months.Government is tabling an amendment to kick the vote for the Committee review until the police investigation is over and Sue Gray has released her report.
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Was suggested a lot would abstain, which could end up with givt defeat anyway. This way, you potentially allow MPs to stay onside and not pull the trigger on him yet. Not sure what that gains... apart from covering tracks before leaving?!?Unless I’m missing something, this situation is a bit weird. If youre whipping why amend the motion…unless you’re concerned that your own MPs will defy the whip and it will be voted through ? However, by amending the motion in this way does the government actually open up the likelihood of more Tories voting in favour of it and ultimately supporting the investigation itself further down the line ?
As feed indicates this is risky, if there’s more fines and bad full report, MPs will almost certainly have to back the investigation…unless Johnson resigns by then anyway
Not sure it gives Johnson a way out unless he avoids further fines which feels extremely unlikely at this stage
There’s been a couple who have publicly confirmed that they would abstain and privately apparently many more.Unless I’m missing something, this situation is a bit weird. If youre whipping why amend the motion…unless you’re concerned that your own MPs will defy the whip and it will be voted through ? However, by amending the motion in this way does the government actually open up the likelihood of more Tories voting in favour of it and ultimately supporting the investigation itself further down the line ?
As feed indicates this is risky, if there’s more fines and bad full report, MPs will almost certainly have to back the investigation…unless Johnson resigns by then anyway
Not sure it gives Johnson a way out unless he avoids further fines which feels extremely unlikely at this stage
Was suggested a lot would abstain, which could end up with givt defeat anyway. This way, you potentially allow MPs to stay onside and not pull the trigger on him yet. Not sure what that gains... apart from covering tracks before leaving?!?
Didn’t they promise to learn the lessons from the Owen Patterson debacle. They seem to have forgotten them already, not even been 6 months.
Maybe Boris is in the shit. The excellent Dan Hodges
Still think he’ll try and style it out.
Given that Steve Baker was a ring leader in bringing May down and installing Boris it can’t be good. Still not counting my chickens though.I read that Steve Baker had called for him to go but wasn't sure if it was true, looks like it is and that spells trouble for Johnson.
How can you constantly break the ministerial code (as PM!!) and not resign?
Given that Steve Baker was a ring leader in bringing May down and installing Boris it can’t be good. Still not counting my chickens though.
I was not a huge fan of Corbyn but this defence tories use of "but starmer/corbyn/etc" is utter rubbish and they know it. They're literally trying to go on the attack for something that never happened as they were never in power.Also there's been a lot of 'but Corbyn' from the Tories in recent days.
I think it says a lot that they have nothing on Starmer and their only attack line is against the bloke who was in charge 2 years ago.
I was not a huge fan of Corbyn but this defence tories use of "but starmer/corbyn/etc" is utter rubbish and they know it. They're literally trying to go on the attack for something that never happened as they were never in power.
If they're ridiculous, he's the one who made them ridiculous of course!but the thing that brings down the Prime Minister and the media's focus is on breaching some restrictions (such as being able to work with somebody but not socialise with them) which were and are ridiculous.
We're in that very mess because we've had twelve years of this very party. Defund, demoralise, sell off is their only policy. Then, when it goes wrong, they blamed Labour. Then immigrants. Then the EU. Now covid and whatever else happens to fit their narrative.What a silly country this is. We're in a massive economic slump with the standard of living of many on the decline if not putting them into genuine poverty, but the thing that brings down the Prime Minister and the media's focus is on breaching some restrictions (such as being able to work with somebody but not socialise with them) which were and are ridiculous.
This is not to say by any means I don't accept that Johnson should go and what he did was wrong, it just feels pretty immaterial to me now (though I'm fortunate to not have been somebody who couldn't attend a loved ones funeral etc).
I'd be suspicious of Baker and the ERG loons, gawd knows who they have got lined up next....
I'd be suspicious of Baker and the ERG loons, gawd knows who they have got lined up next....
I'd imagine Baker himself fancies a crack at it.
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