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CCFCSteve

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,461
skybluetony176 said:
4 biggest energy companies come together to say that the government should be doing more to help people with their bills.

You know it’s bad when the greedy energy companies are saying that the government aren’t doing enough.
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Yeah, I’d be shocked if more assistance isn’t on the way, guessing in autumn when they know likely winter fuel situation

I still think the easiest thing to do in the meantime is bring back the temp £20 UC uplift whilst inflation remains high
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,462
Shocking performance from Patel in the commons just now. Got a kicking.

Terrible speaker and comes across like the evil witch she is.

It comes to something when even Theresa May thinks this policy is a bit much.
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,463
Watching it as well. How the hell did these people make MPs?
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,464
On the one hand she's telling us what a deterrent this will be, and on the other hand she's telling us what a wonderful place Rwanda is.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,465
Philosorapter said:
Watching it as well. How the hell did these people make MPs?
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Cream of society
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,466
Supposed to be in the house at 4:30 making a statement but he’s not turned up
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,467
I really, really hope this isn't true. Beyond disgusting if it is, but about right for that evil witch Patel.


"The call handler said he had noticed a "pattern" over the last week and a half, which appeared to show young children's visas going missing or being withheld.

"Maybe you have a mother and two children, what seems to happen is two of the three applications will be given permission to travel and then the last one - which is predominantly and often the youngest child - seems to go missing or withheld," he said.

"It seems to me to be a way of the Government saying, 'Well we've issued visas’, knowing that they won't leave their youngest child, so they won't travel. I think you've got to be pretty callous to do that."


Govt Homes for Ukraine helpline giving 'false information' as 'pattern' emerges over 'lost visas'

Traumatised refugees are being given false information about the status of their visa application, a Homes for Ukraine helpline worker has claimed.
www.lbc.co.uk
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,468
The excellent Dan Hodges

 

skybluetony176

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,469
Sky Blue Pete said:
Supposed to be in the house at 4:30 making a statement but he’s not turned up
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Anyone checked the fridge
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,470
He's up and he's using innocent Ukrainian civilians as a human shield for his law breaking.

Shameless c**t.

You just know he's genuinely thankful for this war.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,471
Oh dear. The excellent Dan Hodges

 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,472
So Boris can talk a crock of shit but keir can’t say he’s dishonest ffs
 
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stupot07

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,473
Starmer did a good response there.

Johnsons only retort is about Corbyn, then goes on about Ukraine.

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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,474
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,475
Absolutely brilliant from Starmer. Tore Johnson and his acolytes a new one.

Imagine looking at those two performances and thinking 'yeah Johnson is my guy'.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,476
The gist of his apology is we should move on because he’s a moron incapable of understanding his own rules. Imagine if Diane Abbot…
 
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clint van damme

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,477
PVA said:
Absolutely brilliant from Starmer. Tore Johnson and his acolytes a new one.

Imagine looking at those two performances and thinking 'yeah Johnson is my guy'.
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thought the body language of the tory front bench was very telling. None of the usual bluster. Think they know they're in the shit.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,478
clint van damme said:
thought the body language of the tory front bench was very telling. None of the usual bluster. Think they know they're in the shit.
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Agreed. They know more fines are probably on the way !
 
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  • Apr 19, 2022
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CCFCSteve said:
Agreed. They know more fines are probably on the way !
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Fines are so 2021, it's all about Ukraine now, and the fact only Johnson can oversea from a polite distance the country being battered by enemy artillery.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,480
Deleted member 5849 said:
Fines are so 2021, it's all about Ukraine now, and the fact only Johnson can oversea from a polite distance the country being battered by enemy artillery.
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I am so proud he is leading the wests response.
Poland - 4m refugees
Uk - are we at 100 yet?
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,481
Deleted member 5849 said:
Fines are so 2021, it's all about Ukraine now, and the fact only Johnson can oversea from a polite distance the country being battered by enemy artillery.
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I was reliably informed by various MPs that Johnson and Sunak are practically fighting on the front line.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,482
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,483
Deleted member 5849 said:
Fines are so 2021, it's all about Ukraine now, and the fact only Johnson can oversea from a polite distance the country being battered by enemy artillery.
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Haha, to be fair, if this was a one off I’d actually have some sympathy with that argument….I know many won’t. Unfortunately I don’t think it will be.

The fines themselves aren’t necessarily the major issue for Johnson but his argument he didn’t lie to parliament about rules being broken falls apart if there’s several
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,484
skybluetony176 said:
4 biggest energy companies come together to say that the government should be doing more to help people with their bills.

You know it’s bad when the greedy energy companies are saying that the government aren’t doing enough.
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Although it's true they could look closer to home and take a hit on their huge profits.

One of the things a government might do to consider helping people with their bills is not leave in the grubby hands of greedy private enterprise...
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,485
Philosorapter said:
Watching it as well. How the hell did these people make MPs?
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They know the right people and put on the right colour rosette for the particular area they're standing in.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,486
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
I've recently been revisiting essays by Orwell and chomsky.....and its still the same as it ever was.

...so any of you still getting your Twitter kickers in a twist on a daily basis over petty infringements by no-mark actors in the side show that is domestic politics need to take a step back to focus....
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Perhaps the reason the same shit is still happening years later is that those that commit the infringements are never properly held to account and so it carries on happening. Seems to be increasing all the time lately and just by coincidence it's also the same time when we've been letting the fuckers get away with pretty much anything.

So how about suggesting we hold these people to a high standard and make sure they pay the consequences if they don't reach it?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,487
SkyBlueSoul said:
It really hasn't...wait....tell me this is a parody

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Well it has to be.

Grant Shapps is neither Right nor Honourable
 

skybluetony176

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,488
The actually excellent Rory Stewart

 
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shmmeee

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,489
CCFCSteve said:
It’s how you want to present the stats though PVA. I look at the cumulative of the ‘Covid years’ together with projections as countries had waves at different times and therefore recoveries will happen at different times. For example Spain was still -5.7% after 2020 and 2021 so I would expect them to grow faster this year and next compared to us (-1.9%) and France (-1%).

I take the point that Johnson should be careful with his boasts (there’s no need !) but think he was basing on actual rather than forecasts… although was maybe being a little loose with the full picture truth…standard !

I can understand lower growth if it’s due to us being consumer driven economy in a high inflation period. What doesn’t quite make sense is why inflation wouldn’t remain higher and have a greater impact here than, in say Germany*, if they truly are weening themselves off Russian oil and gas ?! As they’re a high manufacturing intensive economy, in what is a high energy cost period, I’d be surprised if they’re not hit harder than forecast but a lot depends on Russian/Ukraine I guess

Edit - just heard guy from IMF saying Germany already revised down 1.7% since Jan so maybe already taken into consideration
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Eyeballing those figures the big gains seem linked to big losses in 2020 and visa versa. I’m not sure they tell us much other than it takes about three years to recover to pre covid levels for most countries.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Apr 19, 2022
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stupot07 said:
Starmer did a good response there.

Johnsons only retort is about Corbyn, then goes on about Ukraine.

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
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But Corbyn.......

Remind you of anyone?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,491
skybluetony176 said:
The actually excellent Rory Stewart

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Got a lot of time for Stewart. Would probably disagree with a lot of how he'd want to do things but you feel he's genuine and someone you could work with
 
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Advie

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  • Apr 19, 2022
  • #12,492
Stewart's attempt at the top job was bad timing on his part I always thought. He was trying for the job in a chaotic time and chaos favours chancers like Boris. Boris was never, ever the man for the top job and he should have been kicked out in the first round.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 20, 2022
  • #12,493
Who was it C4 had to be sold off to compete against again?

Netflix hints at password sharing crackdown as subscribers fall

The firm needs to sign up new subscribers after losing 200,000 in the first quarter of the year.
www.bbc.co.uk
 

skybluetony176

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  • Apr 20, 2022
  • #12,494
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Got a lot of time for Stewart. Would probably disagree with a lot of how he'd want to do things but you feel he's genuine and someone you could work with
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He’s not a knee jerk populist either. So actually stands on his own principles.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 20, 2022
  • #12,495
 
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