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Frostie

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  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,391
Ian1779 said:
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That guy at the end is fantastic

Did a song with you know Beanie Man?
Yeah, his ex-wife... Brilliant
 
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AOM

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,392
Terry_dactyl said:
Yesterday I found myself agreeing with something Nigel Farage said.

Is it the apocalypse?
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Was it "do you think I could jump this gorge on my skateboard?"
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,393
'World leading'

Fuck off Priti.


 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,394
This is in one week

 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,395
PVA said:
'World leading'

Fuck off Priti.


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Alternatively they could have just opened a legitimate route to asylum in the UK negating the need for people smugglers.

Plus, what if the asylum seeker is Rwandan? Despite what the government is trying to claim Rwandas track record on civil rights is appalling. Especially for women and anyone voicing opposition to the government. Neither Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch have anything good to say about them.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,396
PVA said:
'World leading'

Fuck off Priti.


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Everything is described as world-beating, world-leading by them, it's like they have a desperate inferiority complex.
Wankers.
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,397
The budget for the Rwanda thing appears to be 1.5 billion which using the Australia costing is enough for around 100 people
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,398
Fuck me, David Davis is now the moderate, caring sharing side of Toryism
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,399
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,400
 
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Macca

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,401
I literally thought I was hallucinating when I read this story this morning. Making an even worse immigration policy than the current one is some doing
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,402
David O'Day said:
The budget for the Rwanda thing appears to be 1.5 billion which using the Australia costing is enough for around 100 people
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Entire cost of the current uk asylum system 1.5 billion per year.
Johnson said we can't keep asking the public to write a blank cheque but introduces a system that's far more expensive and will only deal with a fraction of those who seek asylum.
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,403
But we're not allowed to call (the majority of) Tory Leavers racist pricks remember because we might hurt their feelings


 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,404
PVA said:
But we're not allowed to call (the majority of) Tory Leavers racist pricks remember because we might hurt their feelings


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Tbh I find the Rwanda plan pretty abhorrent (not to mention a ridiculous waste of cash), but calling everyone who supports it a racist will pretty much ensure the Tories continue to clean up with voters who are worried about this stuff.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,405
skybluetony176 said:
I’ve read the article 3 times and at no point does it say any country wasn’t free to go it’s own route, which of course they always were. It does say they held an emergency video conference of the 27 nations in response to the USA’s aggression in trying to buy up the world’s supply of vaccines before development was complete. It says that they all AGREED to purchase as a block to bulk buy vaccines. The biggest criticism in the article of the EU seems to be it backed the wrong horse. It even says in the article that it didn’t back BioNTech but also explains that wasn’t without the benefit of hindsight all that bad of a decision given BioNTech was a cancer drug researcher prior to Covid 19 so didn’t have the experience other companies did in developing vaccines let alone vaccines for coronavirus’. Maybe you linked the wrong article.
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This is too much like hard work, however, one final effort. I’ve added a brief timeline and then some quotes from the article as you must’ve missed them…

13 June 2020 - The Alliance (Germany, France, Italy and holland) agree own AZ deal

Other EU countries pissed off. ‘The then Belgian Health Minister Maggie De Block slammed the deal with Oxford/AstraZeneca as an “unreasonable” move that weakened everyone’ EU requests Alliance back off.

‘All that was left to do was convince the Inclusive Vaccine Alliance to give up its head start’ - This is the political pressure I was talking about.

‘After the 27 members of the EU signed on to the plan, the four-country Alliance closed shop, allowing the Commission to take over its talks with Johnson & Johnson, and — after some initial confusion — its deal with Oxford/AstraZeneca.’

14 August 2020 - EU finally signs AZ deal which was basically replacing the above Alliance agreement. Two months after Alliance had agreed original deal !!!

Third paragraph

‘Specifically, the bloc’s decisions to prioritize process over speed and to put solidarity between EU countries ahead of giving individual governments more room to maneuver have been criticized for holding back the coronavirus response.’

Final paragraph

‘But for the likes of France and Germany, giving up this option could prove to be a major sacrifice. The EU’s slower, more deliberative and cooperative effort may have cost precious time, and precious lives.’

As I’ve said previously, I understand why the EU felt they had to do it this way ie not competing against each other and looking after all members, however, I was just highlighting that we didn’t have these constraints so could move quicker.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,406
CCFCSteve said:
This is too much like hard work, however, one final effort. I’ve added a brief timeline and then some quotes from the article as you must’ve missed them…

13 June 2020 - The Alliance (Germany, France, Italy and holland) agree own AZ deal

Other EU countries pissed off. ‘The then Belgian Health Minister Maggie De Block slammed the deal with Oxford/AstraZeneca as an “unreasonable” move that weakened everyone’ EU requests Alliance back off.

‘All that was left to do was convince the Inclusive Vaccine Alliance to give up its head start’ - This is the political pressure I was talking about.

‘After the 27 members of the EU signed on to the plan, the four-country Alliance closed shop, allowing the Commission to take over its talks with Johnson & Johnson, and — after some initial confusion — its deal with Oxford/AstraZeneca.’

14 August 2020 - EU finally signs AZ deal which was basically replacing the above Alliance agreement. Two months after Alliance had agreed original deal !!!

Third paragraph

‘Specifically, the bloc’s decisions to prioritize process over speed and to put solidarity between EU countries ahead of giving individual governments more room to maneuver have been criticized for holding back the coronavirus response.’

Final paragraph

‘But for the likes of France and Germany, giving up this option could prove to be a major sacrifice. The EU’s slower, more deliberative and cooperative effort may have cost precious time, and precious lives.’

As I’ve said previously, I understand why the EU felt they had to do it this way ie not competing against each other and looking after all members, however, I was just highlighting that we didn’t have these constraints so could move quicker.
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So exactly like I said then. No one was forced so there’s no way we would have been forced. Wrong link again?
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,407
PVA said:
'World leading'

Fuck off Priti.


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How about putting it before Parliament before signing the "world-leading deal"??
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,408
The pedo has resigned as an MP do they’ll now be a by-election in Wakefield.
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,409
skybluetony176 said:
The pedo has resigned as an MP do they’ll now be a by-election in Wakefield.
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I suspect that might go back to Labour now!
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,410
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
I suspect that might go back to Labour now!
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I wouldn’t be so sure, apparently the Tories latest immigration policy is providing quite popular in the constituency.
 

duffer

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,411
clint van damme said:
This is in one week

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That thread has to be read.

This government is beneath contempt. Corrupt, criminal, and staggeringly incompetent at all levels.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,412
duffer said:
That thread has to be read.

This government is beneath contempt. Corrupt, criminal, and staggeringly incompetent at all levels.
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It’s no accident that the country is spiralling down when it’s run by a government who’s decency, competence, honesty, ethics, honesty etc etc etc are spiralling down.
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,413
duffer said:
That thread has to be read.

This government is beneath contempt. Corrupt, criminal, and staggeringly incompetent at all levels.
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Yeah but Angela Rayner expensed some Air Pods once so they're all as bad as each other
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,414
Another broken election promise

‘An outrage’: Tories’ post-Brexit fund will not match EU grants until 2025

Shared Prosperity Fund criticised as ‘serious blow to levelling up’, with poorest regions predicted to lose out on millions
www.theguardian.com


Subscribe to read

www.ft.com
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,415
skybluetony176 said:
Another broken election promise

‘An outrage’: Tories’ post-Brexit fund will not match EU grants until 2025

Shared Prosperity Fund criticised as ‘serious blow to levelling up’, with poorest regions predicted to lose out on millions
www.theguardian.com


Subscribe to read

www.ft.com
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Even the places that elected Tory MPs aren't being let off
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,416
fernandopartridge said:
Even the places that elected Tory MPs aren't being let off
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Cornwall has been proper fucked over. A drop of 50%.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,417
skybluetony176 said:
Cornwall has been proper fucked over. A drop of 50%.
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They know it won’t affect the 2nd home owners so happy to hammer them!
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,418
The real sucker punch is the government promised it would at least match existing EU funding, it doesn’t and by some distance. They also promised that it would be less complicated cutting EU red tape. It has cut EU red tape, by default, then replaced it with something that apparently at best is just as complicated.

That £360M a week is suddenly looking good value for money.
 
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stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,419

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,420
chiefdave said:
From the sounds of things sending people to Rwanda is going to cost many times the amount we'd spend keeping them here, what a genius plan.

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Yeah, but they ain't 'ere an' that's wot matters, innit.
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,421
For fuck sake

 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,422
Philosorapter said:
For fuck sake

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He’s definitely got the look of that guy whose face melts off in the Indiana Jones film with the Nazis.
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #12,423
Ian1779 said:
He’s definitely got the look of that guy whose face melts off in the Indiana Jones film with the Nazis.
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I understand the 80s were a bit careless and fancy-free, but it looks like an actual SS uniform and not some fancy dress gear. Up to the death's head symbol on the cap.

 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2022
  • #12,424
So yesterday Boris was bragging that we could only do this nonsense because of brexit and today the justification for doing it is that Denmark are doing it. That’s Denmark who are in the EU.


 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2022
  • #12,425
Said months ago the local elections could be a bloodbath


 
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