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Grendel

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  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,286
clint van damme said:
I'm not sure what Starmer has to do with the absolute deluge of wankers telling people who are struggling how they can survive on.pasta or by getting rid of family pets.
And Sandy is very much representative of tory thinking.
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So what do we do? Give the poor fillet steak and a bit of truffle oil with some triple fried chunky chips?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,287
PVA said:
God I hate people like this.

People like this just want the poor to suffer and won't be happy until they're getting scraps out of bins

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Leaving aside the hate the poor aspect, what the fuck is that meal? It’s just random shit thrown together.
 
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Tommo1993

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,288
CCFCSteve said:
Who the fuck has egg with carrots ?!
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More importantly, what’s she having for mains? Or does she always have child portions?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,289
shmmeee said:
Leaving aside the hate the poor aspect, what the fuck is that meal? It’s just random shit thrown together.
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its a wind up the bloke is a fruit loop
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,290
Grendel said:
So what do we do? Give the poor fillet steak and a bit of truffle oil with some triple fried chunky chips?
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Well somehow other countries have managed to alleviate the rising energy costs for a start.

Weren't we told our energy costs would lower post brexit?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,291
It’s an amusing twitter account to be fair
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,292
clint van damme said:
Well somehow other countries have managed to alleviate the rising energy costs for a start.

Weren't we told our energy costs would lower post brexit?
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who has? And post brexit is rather silly as this is entirely caused as you know by things not predicted
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,293
clint van damme said:
It's probably relevant to the person she made the remark to. A person who isn't a total c**t would probably just say nothing when someone's telling you about their personal grief.
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ignore him, the weirdo brought up jack straw once
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,294
David O'Day said:
ignore him, the weirdo brought up jack straw once
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David IRA
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,295
Grendel said:
who has? And post brexit is rather silly as this is entirely caused as you know by things not predicted
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Wasn’t the whole point of Brexit we could be more nimble in response to events?
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,296
Grendel said:
who has? And post brexit is rather silly as this is entirely caused as you know by things not predicted
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Well your mate Macron has for a start.
And yes, the current energy prices are nothing to do with brexit but we were told it would allow us to cut VAT on energy bills, wouldn't now be a good time to start?
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,297
All this reminds me of a question time episode in the 80’s. Gerald Kaufman was saying his constituents were so poor that they could only afford curry sauce and chips

How he’s concluded this I’ve no idea. Edwina had an answer - that’s unhealthy and expensive - they should eat cheese it’s cheap and healthier than curry sauce and chips

Back to the future
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,298
shmmeee said:
Wasn’t the whole point of Brexit we could be more nimble in response to events?
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Events such as a global pandemic which the end of has driven global prices through the roof I don’t think was part of the planning.

It’s going to stabilise within 6 months anyway
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,299
Grendel said:
Events such as a global pandemic which the end of has driven global prices through the roof I don’t think was part of the planning.

It’s going to stabilise within 6 months anyway
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But other countries have responded to unexpected events to try and help their citizens.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,300
Grendel said:
Events such as a global pandemic which the end of has driven global prices through the roof I don’t think was part of the planning.

It’s going to stabilise within 6 months anyway
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Then cut VAT for 6 months. This is exactly the sort of situation, along with importing food from cheaper areas that was sold as the reason for Brexit.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,301
clint van damme said:
But other countries have responded to unexpected events to try and help their citizens.
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Live from the Tory policy think tank:

 
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PVA

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  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,302
clint van damme said:
But other countries have responded to unexpected events to try and help their citizens.
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How dare you! The tories have discounted solar panel installations, I don't think you can ask any more than that.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,303
shmmeee said:
Then cut VAT for 6 months. This is exactly the sort of situation, along with importing food from cheaper areas that was sold as the reason for Brexit.
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i agree vat should be cut and the green levy - I have actually said I never really got the point of privatising industries where there’s a controlled source. I never agreed with railway privatisation
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,304
Grendel said:
All this reminds me of a question time episode in the 80’s.
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Is this the most tragic sentence of all time?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,305
rob9872 said:
I'm sorry for your loss, but I'm not suggesting you move on from your mother, I'm suggesting we allow the pm to move on and govern as elected. Removing him from office will be another sideshow whilst we go through rounds of votes and jostling for position, reshuffling the ministers and generally wasting time when there are more important things going on in the world. Removing him from office sadly won't bring back yours or anyone else's loved ones.
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Great, so anyone can ignore whatever rules they like and follow his example.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,306
Sick Boy said:
Great, so anyone can ignore whatever rules they like and follow his example.
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shmmeee

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  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,307
Grendel said:
i agree vat should be cut and the green levy - I have actually said I never really got the point of privatising industries where there’s a controlled source. I never agreed with railway privatisation
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Green levies are a bad policy, should be paid with borrowing for exactly this reason.
 
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wingy

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  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,308
Grendel said:
All this reminds me of a question time episode in the 80’s. Gerald Kaufman was saying his constituents were so poor that they could only afford curry sauce and chips

How he’s concluded this I’ve no idea. Edwina had an answer - that’s unhealthy and expensive - they should eat cheese it’s cheap and healthier than curry sauce and chips

Back to the future
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Donuts is the way.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,309
Grendel said:
So what do we do? Give the poor fillet steak and a bit of truffle oil with some triple fried chunky chips?
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Not being a cock would be enough.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,310
shmmeee said:
Green levies are a bad policy, should be paid with borrowing for exactly this reason.
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As I say the whole privatisation thing was a folly built into an 80’s yuppie share ownership culture. It’s always been a waste of time.

You transfer providers It makes no difference

Railways have always been an annoyance to me. Useless when nationalised and now worse.
 
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stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,311
PVA said:
God I hate people like this.

People like this just want the poor to suffer and won't be happy until they're getting scraps out of bins

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What a twat. Thats about 250-300 kcal max, hardly a meal.

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Deleted member 5849

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  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,312
Grendel said:
As I say the whole privatisation thing was a folly built into an 80’s yuppie share ownership culture. It’s always been a waste of time.

You transfer providers It makes no difference
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Knew there was a closet lefty in there somewhere. You'll be praising John McDonnell before you know it.
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,313
Deleted member 5849 said:
Knew there was a closet lefty in there somewhere. You'll be praising John McDonnell before you know it.
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I once praised Mr McDonnell as you know. Ownership of such institutions isn’t left it right wing really
 

skybluetony176

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  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,314
Grendel said:
who has? And post brexit is rather silly as this is entirely caused as you know by things not predicted
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You do understand that they can be cheaper post brexit relative to other comparable countries. Problem is (for you) they aren’t. Another brexit myth because the fact is it’s within the government gift to do it, other governments within the EU have chosen to gift it, ours haven’t. Being in or out the EU is and always was irrelevant to energy prices but it was sold as another Brexit unicorn benefit.
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,315
skybluetony176 said:
You do understand that they can be cheaper post brexit relative to other comparable countries. Problem is (for you) they aren’t. Another brexit myth because the fact is it’s within the government gift to do it, other governments within the EU have chosen to gift it, ours haven’t. Being in or out the EU is and always was irrelevant to energy prices but it was sold as another Brexit unicorn benefit.
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I think the EU referendum had more to do with the constitutional question rather than the economic one.
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,316
 
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clint van damme

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  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,317
Philosorapter said:
I think the EU referendum had more to do with the constitutional question rather than the economic one.
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It doesn't matter, we were told it would happen and now they're not doing the bare minimum to mitigate price rises. More bullshit
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,318
Grendel said:
As I say the whole privatisation thing was a folly built into an 80’s yuppie share ownership culture. It’s always been a waste of time.

You transfer providers It makes no difference

Railways have always been an annoyance to me. Useless when nationalised and now worse.
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So why do you keep on voting for the party that constantly keeps on doing it? Also, didn't you criticise Corbyn for suggesting nationalisation of railways?

And yes I know New Labour added a private element into some public services, which was a massive mistake and we'll be paying for it forever, but given the utter disaster it tends to be how come the supposedly 'economically competent' Tories haven't twigged yet? Personally, I suspect they have but they and their mates are doing quite nicely from the decision so fuck everyone else.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,319
Philosorapter said:
I think the EU referendum had more to do with the constitutional question rather than the economic one.
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Well, even if that was true we’re stuck with a law breaking government, a law breaking chancellor, a law breaking PM with his law breaking wife who have zilch respect for the constitution of UK so they’ve shit all over that line too. Another brexit unicorn, the constitution has never meant as little as it does right now.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #12,320
PVA said:
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Yeah but he doesn’t have enough followers on linked in.
 
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