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skybluetony176 · Mar 7, 2022

fernandopartridge said:
Good thread here about the Tory / right wing shitehawks

On a related note I see Farage and the usual suspects are launching a new referendum party. They want a referendum on net zero. Their aims being end reliance on overseas gas imports and zero VAT on energy bills. Your link shows how futile the first one is and the second one we already had a referendum on which he apparently won.

Pretty clear renewables are the only route out of reliance on overseas gas. It’s also the only energy sector that’s growing, it’s also I believe the biggest employer in the energy sector and it’s already comparable on cost to fossil fuels and getting cheaper whereas fossil fuel is getting more expensive not least to it’s supply vulnerability. As we’re witnessing first hand.

Philosoraptor · Mar 7, 2022

Think the jury is still out on fracking. I used to converse awhile back with someone who could have stopped the Government dead in it tracks when it came to fracking. Very knowledgable bloke with connections.

He said fracking had many benefits, but there does still seem to be stuff that needs to be ironed out.

Need to stop the quick buck specialists from charging ahead and causing mayhem.

A bit like the latest crazy fad with driverless cars etc.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Mar 7, 2022

Philosorapter said:
Think the jury is still out on fracking. I used to converse awhile back with someone who could have stopped the Government dead in it tracks when it came to fracking. Very knowledgable bloke with connections.

He said fracking had many benefits, but there does still seem to be stuff that needs to be ironed out.

Need to stop the quick buck specialists from charging ahead and causing mayhem.

A bit like the latest crazy fad with driverless cars etc.

My question is what were those connections.

As far as I can see the downsides are huge and the benefits small in comparison. Especially when you consider other alternatives to invest in are available with much better long term prospects.

clint van damme · Mar 7, 2022

fernandopartridge said:
Good thread here about the Tory / right wing shitehawks

The only person he doesn't name is Farage who has made the war on net zero his latest campaign though I suppose he could come under the umbrella of GB News

Philosoraptor · Mar 7, 2022

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
My question is what were those connections.

Emeritus Professor on the right board.

SBT · Mar 8, 2022

Sounds like Bercow was an absolute wrongun, awful stuff. Looks like his career is done.

John Bercow: Former Speaker banned from parliament for life after bullying inquiry finds him guilty

The former Commons speaker has repeatedly denied the allegations against him, claiming: "I have never bullied anyone, anywhere, at any time in any way."

news.sky.com

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 8, 2022

Mucca Mad Boys said:
You see what’s happening in Ukraine… NATO exists in today’s world to stop Russia land grabbing parts of ex-Soviet republics and installing regimes that are pro-Russian.

If Russia can dominate Ukraine, then what chance do the likes Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia have?

Stop The War is a naive organisation. You have to be able to stand up to aggressors like Putin with force.

Just not if they haven’t signed a piece of paper of course. Then you strictly mustn’t stand up to him at all.

clint van damme · Mar 8, 2022

SBT said:
Sounds like Bercow was an absolute wrongun, awful stuff. Looks like his career is done.

John Bercow: Former Speaker banned from parliament for life after bullying inquiry finds him guilty

The former Commons speaker has repeatedly denied the allegations against him, claiming: "I have never bullied anyone, anywhere, at any time in any way."

news.sky.com

I don't know why, but that's who I imagine @cc84cov looks like.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Mar 8, 2022

SBT said:
Sounds like Bercow was an absolute wrongun, awful stuff. Looks like his career is done.

John Bercow: Former Speaker banned from parliament for life after bullying inquiry finds him guilty

The former Commons speaker has repeatedly denied the allegations against him, claiming: "I have never bullied anyone, anywhere, at any time in any way."

news.sky.com

Can't say I'll miss him. I've always felt that his attitude towards others and that of Priti Patel's would be like two peas in a pod.

Mucca Mad Boys · Mar 8, 2022

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Just not if they haven’t signed a piece of paper of course. Then you strictly mustn’t stand up to him at all.

We are standing up to Putin.

The past cannot be undone, but NATO countries were far too slow to aid Ukraine in the build up to the invasion and perhaps should’ve sent soldiers to prove they were serious.

Two factors:

1) Frankly, there wasn’t the determination to engage in Ukraine before the invasion. Too much of Europe is reliant on Russian money, oil and gas to even provoke Russia. It’s no coincidence the powers most critical in the build up do the invasion we’re least reliant on Russia for energy.

2) I don’t think The West actually believed Putin would carry out this war and when he did, it was a collective wake up call of the threat of Russia. The invasion of Ukraine particularly exposed the German’s foreign and energy policies simultaneously.

Think of NATO like marriage, technically, all you’ve done to get married is sign a piece of paper after a ceremony followed by a party… but marriage is obviously more than that legally and grants extra perks than a relationship.

Grendel · Mar 8, 2022

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Can't say I'll miss him. I've always felt that his attitude towards others and that of Priti Patel's would be like two peas in a pod.

was very popular on here at one time

Ccfcisparks · Mar 8, 2022

clint van damme said:
I don't know why, but that's who I imagine @cc84cov looks like.

I'd imagine he looks like Dave off The Royle Family.

duffer · Mar 8, 2022

Mucca Mad Boys said:
We are standing up to Putin.

The past cannot be undone, but NATO countries were far too slow to aid Ukraine in the build up to the invasion and perhaps should’ve sent soldiers to prove they were serious.

Two factors:

1) Frankly, there wasn’t the determination to engage in Ukraine before the invasion. Too much of Europe is reliant on Russian money, oil and gas to even provoke Russia. It’s no coincidence the powers most critical in the build up do the invasion we’re least reliant on Russia for energy.

2) I don’t think The West actually believed Putin would carry out this war and when he did, it was a collective wake up call of the threat of Russia. The invasion of Ukraine particularly exposed the German’s foreign and energy policies simultaneously.

Think of NATO like marriage, technically, all you’ve done to get married is sign a piece of paper after a ceremony followed by a party… but marriage is obviously more than that legally and grants extra perks than a relationship.

There are perks to being married now?

Was that just brought in recently, I seem to have missed it.

cc84cov · Mar 8, 2022

Ccfcisparks said:
I'd imagine he looks like Dave off The Royle Family.

You’d know if you met me that time

PVA · Mar 8, 2022

Liz covering herself in glory again

So proud to have her representing us on the global stage

clint van damme · Mar 8, 2022

PVA said:
Liz covering herself in glory again

So proud to have her representing us on the global stage

But, but, Dianne Abbott drank a Mojita!!

jimmyhillsfanclub · Mar 9, 2022

Truss is a dumb c**t, no doubt about it, but I believe that tweet (like so much of the entire sewer that is twitter) is a fake.....

These thick fuckers make enough real howlers without making shite up......the fakes give them a get-out......and the more fakes are spread around, the easier it gets for the liars, incompetents & criminals within our (and other) governments to shout "fake news" when its not.

Grendel · Mar 9, 2022

PVA said:
Liz covering herself in glory again

So proud to have her representing us on the global stage

Do you think that is genuine or fake?

Grendel · Mar 9, 2022

jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Truss is a dumb c**t, no doubt about it, but I believe that tweet (like so much of the entire sewer that is twitter) is a fake.....

These thick fuckers make enough real howlers without making shite up......the fakes give them a get-out......and the more fakes are spread around, the easier it gets for the liars, incompetents & criminals within our (and other) governments to shout "fake news" when its not.

The problem is no one really would know. Its showing correct now but the image is doing the rounds even though it has a different profile picture and a later date than this one

Deleted member 5849 · Mar 9, 2022

Grendel said:
The problem is no one really would know. Its showing correct now but the image is doing the rounds even though it has a different profile picture and a later date than this one

Bit like the Diane Abbot one in front of a billboard at the last election.

PVA · Mar 9, 2022

Grendel said:
Do you think that is genuine or fake?

It's genuine. Sorry to disappoint.

PVA · Mar 9, 2022

jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Truss is a dumb c**t, no doubt about it, but I believe that tweet (like so much of the entire sewer that is twitter) is a fake.....

These thick fuckers make enough real howlers without making shite up......the fakes give them a get-out......and the more fakes are spread around, the easier it gets for the liars, incompetents & criminals within our (and other) governments to shout "fake news" when its not.

It's not fake. It's real.

David O'Day · Mar 9, 2022

PVA said:
It's not fake. It's real.

You'd think Grenners the Walter Mitty would know a fake when he saw one.

Grendel · Mar 9, 2022

David O'Day said:
You'd think Grenners the Walter Mitty would know a fake when he saw one.

I do David - amazing you have me on "ignore"

skybluetony176 · Mar 9, 2022

True or fake is irrelevant really. The main point is it’s unbelievably believable. I’m not sure she’s even the worst person in the cabinet. It’s like they’re all on a quest to out Boris Johnson Boris Johnson. This government more than any other in the history of parliament is beyond a national disgrace.

Sick Boy · Mar 9, 2022

PVA said:
It's genuine. Sorry to disappoint.

I doubt she actually posts her own Tweets though.

clint van damme · Mar 9, 2022

Sick Boy said:
I doubt she actually posts her own Tweets though.

I doubt she's capable

duffer · Mar 9, 2022

The current lot make John Major look like Abraham Lincoln and Thatcher look like Mother Theresa.

I don't think they're even real Tories, they're basically the slightly more polite but equally stupid wing of UKIP.

Ian1779 · Mar 9, 2022

duffer said:
The current lot make John Major look like Abraham Lincoln and Thatcher look like Mother Theresa.

I don't think they're even real Tories, they're basically the slightly more polite but equally stupid wing of UKIP.

Slightly less a bunch of c***s than Farage and his ilk.
It’s what happens when you allow a bunch of grifters to tell everyone that all their problems are the fault of foreigners, and not the establishment crooks that are in it for self-gain.

chiefdave · Mar 10, 2022

If ever there was a reason not to vote Labour.

Exclusive: Tony Blair wants to advise the next Labour government

The former prime minister hopes to return to British politics to “help on the policy side”.

www.newstatesman.com

skybluetony176 · Mar 10, 2022

PVA · Mar 11, 2022

93% of people recognise Patel for the vile, hateful, piece of work she is.

" Only 7 per cent think that Priti Patel, the home secretary, wants to help Ukrainians come to the UK, according to a YouGov poll for The Times. "

The Times & The Sunday Times

News and opinion from The Times & The Sunday Times

www.thetimes.co.uk

skybluetony176 · Mar 11, 2022

PVA said:
93% of people recognise Patel for the vile, hateful, piece of work she is.

" Only 7 per cent think that Priti Patel, the home secretary, wants to help Ukrainians come to the UK, according to a YouGov poll for The Times. "

The Times & The Sunday Times

News and opinion from The Times & The Sunday Times

www.thetimes.co.uk

Although I’m one of those people who thinks she’s vile ultimately she’s only delivering her brief, which comes from…. Checks notes. Boris Johnson. Who the press seem to be giving a really easy ride on this. #operationsavebigdog.

lifeskyblue · Mar 11, 2022

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PVA · Mar 12, 2022

Boris lad.

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