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duffer

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  • Mar 3, 2022
  • #11,271
shmmeee said:
You’ve never had a good one. Served warm in a restaurant it’s a completely different dish to getting a pack from the fridge aisle in Tesco.
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I don't care what your politics are, but I'm here to say that there is absolutely nothing wrong with a Tesco's scotch egg (as long as you've got some salt). Or a Gregg's sausage roll, or a Pot Noodle for that matter. Do you lads actually come from Coventry?
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 3, 2022
  • #11,272
duffer said:
I don't care what your politics are, but I'm here to say that there is absolutely nothing wrong with a Tesco's scotch egg (as long as you've got some salt). Or a Gregg's sausage roll, or a Pot Noodle for that matter. Do you lads actually come from Coventry?
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I love all that food, just saying scotch egg in a restaurant is different level so don’t write it off.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Mar 3, 2022
  • #11,273
Grendel said:
I don’t laud anyone I just personally think people who make money off the profits of murdering sentient beings are slightly odd people
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Don’t you eat fish?
 

duffer

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  • Mar 3, 2022
  • #11,274
shmmeee said:
I love all that food, just saying scotch egg in a restaurant is different level so don’t write it off.
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Hmm, maybe. Do you think I'd have to pay corkage if I just took my own?
 

Ian1779

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  • Mar 3, 2022
  • #11,275
skybluetony176 said:
Don’t you eat fish?
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According to Farage and Rees-Mogg, British fish swim voluntarily into British nets to be eaten knowing they are doing their bit for the Empire.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Mar 3, 2022
  • #11,276
Grendel said:
I don’t laud anyone I just personally think people who make money off the profits of murdering sentient beings are slightly odd people
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I also think people who make vast sums of money off the exploitation of other people are slightly odd.

And what about arable farmers?
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 3, 2022
  • #11,277
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I also think people who make vast sums of money off the exploitation of other people are slightly odd.

And what about arable farmers?
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People like len mckoskey - I agree
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Mar 3, 2022
  • #11,278
Grendel said:
People like len mckoskey - I agree
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Oh, there's quite a lot of those higher up in things like TU's who I'm incredibly sceptical of their motives.

But your favourite party puts exploitation front and centre of policy and window dresses it. Shit loads of money at the top. Those lower down get to scrape by while doing most of the work. But hey - jobs! Economic growth!
 
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Ian1779

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  • Mar 3, 2022
  • #11,279
Perfectly normal thing to do in a perfectly normal and non-corrupt country….

 
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  • Mar 3, 2022
  • #11,280
Ian1779 said:
Perfectly normal thing to do in a perfectly normal and non-corrupt country….

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Whenever he writes his tell-all autobiography, it'll be a cracking read.
 

JAM See

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  • Mar 3, 2022
  • #11,281
Ian1779 said:
Perfectly normal thing to do in a perfectly normal and non-corrupt country….

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Sneaked in while everybody else was looking elsewhere. Shameful.

I thought everybody in government was 'drinking after work working round the clock' on Ukraine?

What a shambles!

Might as well give Waghorn a peerage for his contribution to top flight footer (or whatever the Prime Minister calls it).
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 4, 2022
  • #11,282
Labour hold in the by election yesterday.

Low turnout but majority almost doubled.
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Mar 4, 2022
  • #11,283
PVA said:
Labour hold in the by election yesterday.

Low turnout but majority almost doubled.
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Hard to tell anything on that one.

Need to wait for the local elections in May where according to the cycle some Labour MPs in 2018 said it was a disaster for Labour etc.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #11,284
We do I think regarding this crises also decide if the leader of the opposition is actually what he seems

Many may not be aware so I consider it my duty to point it out that Mr Starmer or “Comrade” Starmer was like Blair a radical Marxist in his youth who was trying along with the radical left to force Neil Kinnock to adopt hard left policies from the labour arm of the party that had direct links with the KGB

Interesting that some people think Mr Starmer would be a fitting person to cross swords with Mr Putin
 

Ian1779

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #11,285
Grendel said:
We do I think regarding this crises also decide if the leader of the opposition is actually what he seems

Many may not be aware so I consider it my duty to point it out that Mr Starmer or “Comrade” Starmer was like Blair a radical Marxist in his youth who was trying along with the radical left to force Neil Kinnock to adopt hard left policies from the labour arm of the party that had direct links with the KGB

Interesting that some people think Mr Starmer would be a fitting person to cross swords with Mr Putin
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Starmer is a weathervane - you can be sure wherever he is politically this week it will have changed in a month or two…. Murdoch will see to it I’m sure.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #11,286
Disturbing

Keir Starmer’s cynical embrace of Nato is a sad sight indeed | Lindsey German

The Labour leader accused us of backing Putin by opposing war in Ukraine. He knows he’s wrong, says Lindsey German, convenor of the Stop the War coalition
amp.theguardian.com
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #11,287
Grendel said:
Disturbing

Keir Starmer’s cynical embrace of Nato is a sad sight indeed | Lindsey German

The Labour leader accused us of backing Putin by opposing war in Ukraine. He knows he’s wrong, says Lindsey German, convenor of the Stop the War coalition
amp.theguardian.com
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Wow what a shock, you side with the pro-Russian Stop the War coalition.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #11,288
PVA said:
Wow what a shock, you side with the pro-Russian Stop the War coalition.
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Err...what?
Being anti-war and (rightly) questioning the wider role of NATO does not make the STW "pro-russian"!

Deary me!

The article also makes some good points regarding the nowhere man Starmer....

....in fact, STW always raise some very salient and often uncomfortable home truths that many struggle with....pointing out the glaring hypocrisy of the western alliance is always a trigger....especially amongst the coffee table socialists and the more shouty social media "liberals" I find.....

....Mr. starmer should take notes.....at least they stand for something.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #11,289
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Err...what?
Being anti-war and (rightly) questioning the wider role of NATO does not make the STW "pro-russian"!
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Of course being anti war does not make you pro Russian.

But this lot have explicitly blamed NATO, put no blame at Russia's door and accept Crimea as part of Russia.

Funny to see Grendel now siding with Jeremy Corbyn though
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #11,290
PVA said:
Wow what a shock, you side with the pro-Russian Stop the War coalition.
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Stop the War have campaigned against wars since 2001. I guess the campaign against Iraq was a pro Saddam thing then? Or was it pro Putin at that time?
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #11,291
fernandopartridge said:
Stop the War have campaigned against wars since 2001. I guess the campaign against Iraq was a pro Saddam thing then? Or was it pro Putin at that time?
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Not sure what Iraq has to do with Russia but hey ho.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #11,292
PVA said:
Wow what a shock, you side with the pro-Russian Stop the War coalition.
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This has to be the most bonkers thing I’ve seen on here

this idiot actually thinks Zara sultana et al is pro Russian and backs labour
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #11,293
Did you read the STW statement?

It was appalling.

As I say, very surprising to see you siding with Mr Corbyn.

Less surprising is your use of offensive insults. Disgusting.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #11,294
PVA said:
Of course being anti war does not make you pro Russian.

But this lot have explicitly blamed NATO, put no blame at Russia's door and accept Crimea as part of Russia.

Funny to see Grendel now siding with Jeremy Corbyn though
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I have no words
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #11,295
PVA said:
Did you read the STW statement?

It was appalling.

As I say, very surprising to see you siding with Mr Corbyn.

Less surprising is your use of offensive insults. Disgusting.
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Keep digging
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #11,296
Grendel said:
Keep digging
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'retard'

Really?

What an utter scumbag you are. You always reveal your true colours when you get your back up.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #11,297
Grendel said:
We do I think regarding this crises also decide if the leader of the opposition is actually what he seems

Many may not be aware so I consider it my duty to point it out that Mr Starmer or “Comrade” Starmer was like Blair a radical Marxist in his youth who was trying along with the radical left to force Neil Kinnock to adopt hard left policies from the labour arm of the party that had direct links with the KGB

Interesting that some people think Mr Starmer would be a fitting person to cross swords with Mr Putin
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Give me a single Western politician who is, at this moment in time.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #11,298
PVA said:
'retard'

Really?

What an utter scumbag you are. You always reveal your true colours when you get your back up.
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You are beyond parody you literally have no idea just carry on
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #11,299
Grendel said:
You are beyond parody you literally have no idea just carry on
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Will you apologise for your appalling language?
 

Ian1779

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #11,300
PVA said:
Wow what a shock, you side with the pro-Russian Stop the War coalition.
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Saying the STW coalition is pro-Putin is sensationalist and actually deeply unhelpful. They have valid criticism of Western foreign policy, and whilst I wouldn’t have waded in on NATO at this particular juncture personally, there are salient points in there.

Also, whilst you’re dogpiling into Corbyn, remember that he has spoken out more about the negative influence of dirty Russian money in British politics than anyone else… despite Starmer’s best effort to imply that he was the inventor of such a notion.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #11,301
Ian1779 said:
Saying the STW coalition is pro-Putin is sensationalist and actually deeply unhelpful. They have valid criticism of Western foreign policy, and whilst I wouldn’t have waded in on NATO at this particular juncture personally, there are salient points in there.

Also, whilst you’re dogpiling into Corbyn, remember that he has spoken out more about the negative influence of dirty Russian money in British politics than anyone else… despite Starmer’s best effort to imply that he was the inventor of such a notion.
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Being anti war can only be a good thing.

But their statement on this conflict and some of their other literature on it is awful and clearly carries a pro Russian stance

I'm not saying every member or everyone who has attended the protests is pro Russian, of course. The vast, vast, majority will be there for all the right reasons.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 7, 2022
  • #11,302
PVA said:
Not sure what Iraq has to do with Russia but hey ho.
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You have stated a group with a pre existing raison d'etre are a "pro Putin" group when the evidence is there that they're exactly just anti war.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Mar 7, 2022
  • #11,303
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Err...what?
Being anti-war and (rightly) questioning the wider role of NATO does not make the STW "pro-russian"!

Deary me!

The article also makes some good points regarding the nowhere man Starmer....

....in fact, STW always raise some very salient and often uncomfortable home truths that many struggle with....pointing out the glaring hypocrisy of the western alliance is always a trigger....especially amongst the coffee table socialists and the more shouty social media "liberals" I find.....

....Mr. starmer should take notes.....at least they stand for something.
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You see what’s happening in Ukraine… NATO exists in today’s world to stop Russia land grabbing parts of ex-Soviet republics and installing regimes that are pro-Russian.

If Russia can dominate Ukraine, then what chance do the likes Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia have?

Stop The War is a naive organisation. You have to be able to stand up to aggressors like Putin with force.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 7, 2022
  • #11,304
fernandopartridge said:
You have stated a group with a pre existing raison d'etre are a "pro Putin" group when the evidence is there that they're exactly just anti war.
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But there is also evidence that they are pro Russia.

I'm not saying they started up as a pro Russia group!

They're anti war, that's a good thing, no issue with that of course. My issue is with the awful statement they put out at the start of this conflict.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 7, 2022
  • #11,305
Good thread here about the Tory / right wing shitehawks

 
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