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chiefdave

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  • Feb 7, 2022
  • #10,711
Looks like we've reached the polling so badly we'll start a war over the Falklands stage of government.

 
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2022
  • #10,712
chiefdave said:
Looks like we've reached the polling so badly we'll start a war over the Falklands stage of government.

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I wonder if people will stop using their iPhones in protest at China like when everyone stopped eating corned beef from Argentina.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2022
  • #10,713
So the tories are unhappy with the attacks on the current Mrs Johnson and are saying they are sexist, I imagine Johnson himself would be able to spot that as sexism is one of his many talents.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2022
  • #10,714
Terry Gibson's perm said:
So the tories are unhappy with the attacks on the current Mrs Johnson and are saying they are sexist, I imagine Johnson himself would be able to spot that as sexism is one of his many talents.
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It’s all part of operation “Save Big Dog”. Look where these stories about her being in control, Boris’ woke policies are down to Carrie influence etc etc. came from. It’s all the same people and media outlets that have spent the last two weeks trivialising the law, telling us no one is interested in parties etc etc. That didn’t work so it’s time to shit on another wife. That’s not working so play the victim. Desperation from the big dog.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2022
  • #10,715
Good fucking lord.

Guto Harri sounds like an utter fucking bellend.

 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2022
  • #10,716
Oh and...


He describes the government as an “insurgent force” because of the opposition it faces from parts of the establishment, and from the BBC. He says:

In the battle of ideas, we remain an insurgent force: outgunned by the hegemony of left-wing orthodoxy that often lurks without challenge within swathes of the cultural and education establishment and in the state supported media.
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2022
  • #10,717
PVA said:
Oh and...
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Thats one way to say “I have ideas most people think are batshit”
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2022
  • #10,718
PVA said:
Good fucking lord.

Guto Harri sounds like an utter fucking bellend.

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I was automatically whisked away to the drinking game in the Warwick Uni episode of the Inbetweeners, reading that. TWO FINGERS!
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2022
  • #10,719
The kind of grift that Nigel would be proud of

 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2022
  • #10,720
Well done Boris

Sir Keir Starmer bundled into back of police car after being mobbed by protesters shouting 'Jimmy Savile' at Labour leader

The Labour leader is escorted to safety by police after being mobbed by a group of anti-COVID lockdown protesters in Westminster. And there's fresh condemnation of Boris Johnson as some of the group were heard to be referencing the PM's Jimmy Savile claim about Sir Keir Starmer.
news.sky.com

I guess that this means that there hasn’t been a line drawn under it.
 
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2022
  • #10,721
skybluetony176 said:
Well done Boris

Sir Keir Starmer bundled into back of police car after being mobbed by protesters shouting 'Jimmy Savile' at Labour leader

The Labour leader is escorted to safety by police after being mobbed by a group of anti-COVID lockdown protesters in Westminster. And there's fresh condemnation of Boris Johnson as some of the group were heard to be referencing the PM's Jimmy Savile claim about Sir Keir Starmer.
news.sky.com

I guess that this means that there hasn’t been a line drawn under it.
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We’ve had 2 MP’s murdered, numerous ones have faced serious deaths threats and this c**t had to still go there.
He’s a fucking disgrace.
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2022
  • #10,722
Ian1779 said:
We’ve had 2 MP’s murdered, numerous ones have faced serious deaths threats and this c**t had to still go there.
He’s a fucking disgrace.
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Labour supporter, 72, left in hospital after being attacked on doorstep while campaigning

‘He damaged his jaw to the point where he can’t eat properly,’ says friend
www.independent.co.uk
 
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2022
  • #10,723
chiefdave said:

Labour supporter, 72, left in hospital after being attacked on doorstep while campaigning

‘He damaged his jaw to the point where he can’t eat properly,’ says friend
www.independent.co.uk
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As you’ve quite rightly pointed out this goes back the last 6/7 years and plenty of those coming out in condemnation weren’t anywhere near as vociferous a few years ago.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2022
  • #10,724
Ian1779 said:
We’ve had 2 MP’s murdered, numerous ones have faced serious deaths threats and this c**t had to still go there.
He’s a fucking disgrace.
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And frankly that's a very generous description of him.
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 7, 2022
  • #10,725
Turns out that repeating lies from far right online trolls and racists has consequences. What a fucking disgrace he is.

I'll say it again - and they wonder why they get called vile scum.


But Jack Straw said something racist 20 years ago eh @Grendel .
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2022
  • #10,726
Fuck off

 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2022
  • #10,727
PVA said:
Fuck off

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#trolling
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2022
  • #10,728
skybluetony176 said:
#trolling
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But he’s achieved what he wanted - it’s out there in the public domain and it doesn’t matter that it’s bollocks.

This has been nearly a decade in the making - we have allowed politicians, journalists and commentators to LIE to us unchallenged and without accountability. It’s very difficult to put a stop to it unless we have an overhaul and reform of how this all works. - just look at the revolving door between Downing St and national media, including the BBC.
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 7, 2022
  • #10,729
Ian1779 said:
But he’s achieved what he wanted - it’s out there in the public domain and it doesn’t matter that it’s bollocks.

This has been nearly a decade in the making - we have allowed politicians, journalists and commentators to LIE to us unchallenged and without accountability. It’s very difficult to put a stop to it unless we have an overhaul and reform of how this all works. - just look at the revolving door between Downing St and national media, including the BBC.
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Unchallenged?!

Actually I think you'll find Mr Hoyle is very strict and will give you 46 warnings and if you do it again you'll get a very serious warning next!

(unless you state facts, in which case you might get thrown out).
 
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wingy

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  • Feb 7, 2022
  • #10,730
Well in a right thinking world that would be the final nail among his own MP's .
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2022
  • #10,731
wingy said:
Well in a right thinking world that would be the final nail among his own MP's .
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The decorum and civility Tories will agree, for the most part the rest just don’t care. The clown got them a bumper majority for a decade of crap, nobody else is doing that.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 7, 2022
  • #10,732
skybluetony176 said:
Well done Boris

Sir Keir Starmer bundled into back of police car after being mobbed by protesters shouting 'Jimmy Savile' at Labour leader

The Labour leader is escorted to safety by police after being mobbed by a group of anti-COVID lockdown protesters in Westminster. And there's fresh condemnation of Boris Johnson as some of the group were heard to be referencing the PM's Jimmy Savile claim about Sir Keir Starmer.
news.sky.com

I guess that this means that there hasn’t been a line drawn under it.
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What an embarrassment.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2022
  • #10,733


 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2022
  • #10,734
Yes Ash, this is all about Jeremy Corbyn.

 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 8, 2022
  • #10,735
shmmeee said:
Yes Ash, this is all about Jeremy Corbyn.

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Someone of your intelligence should be able to connect the dots.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 8, 2022
  • #10,736
Ian1779 said:
Someone of your intelligence should be able to connect the dots.
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This stuff predates Corbyn, Milliband got it, Blair got it. Jo Cox got it.

This particular conspiracy theory was first invented by bitter Corbyn fans during the leadership campaign, so not sure you want to pull at that thread TBH. See also Corbyn fans misrepresenting Jess Phillips to the point she got death threats, bricks through Angela Eagles windows, etc.

Political debate and conspiracy theory has been around for ages on both fringes and liberally used against centrists and the opposing fringe.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 8, 2022
  • #10,737
shmmeee said:
This stuff predates Corbyn, Milliband got it, Blair got it. Jo Cox got it.

This particular conspiracy theory was first invented by bitter Corbyn fans during the leadership campaign, so not sure you want to pull at that thread TBH. See also Corbyn fans misrepresenting Jess Phillips to the point she got death threats, bricks through Angela Eagles windows, etc.

Political debate and conspiracy theory has been around for ages on both fringes and liberally used against centrists and the opposing fringe.
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Lunatics have become emboldened because politicians lies have gone unchallenged, exacerbated by many journalists and commentators that have facilitated it by saying nothing.
Why you’ve taken issue with this particular tweet makes no sense to me, or brought in irrelevant nonsense to emphasise your dislike for Corbyn.
Starmer was the victim today, but who will be the next to suffer, and to what end.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 8, 2022
  • #10,738
shmmeee said:
This stuff predates Corbyn, Milliband got it, Blair got it. Jo Cox got it.

This particular conspiracy theory was first invented by bitter Corbyn fans during the leadership campaign, so not sure you want to pull at that thread TBH. See also Corbyn fans misrepresenting Jess Phillips to the point she got death threats, bricks through Angela Eagles windows, etc.

Political debate and conspiracy theory has been around for ages on both fringes and liberally used against centrists and the opposing fringe.
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On that last point yes it has, however it’s a new development to have this Trumpian effect of conspiracy nutters carrying out threats based on what the PM himself has said. He’s wielding it without any care of the consequences
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 8, 2022
  • #10,739
shmmeee said:
Yes Ash, this is all about Jeremy Corbyn.

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It isn't about Corbyn but the principle that the leader of the opposition can be subject to slurs, which seemed to be ok between 2015 and 2020 but isn't on now.
 
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Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 8, 2022
  • #10,740
fernandopartridge said:
It isn't about Corbyn but the principle that the leader of the opposition can be subject to slurs, which seemed to be ok between 2015 and 2020 but isn't on now.
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Starmer wasn't physically attacked whereas Corbyn was punched in the head and someone is inside for trying to murder him.

The same people that though Corbyn getting a slap was a big joke are outraged at this.

Neither is right, it is another example of the hypocrisy going round on the reg though.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 8, 2022
  • #10,741
I see Rees Mogg has been made minister for Brexit Opportunities-
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 8, 2022
  • #10,742
Sick Boy said:
I see Rees Mogg has been made minister for Brexit Opportunities-
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Oh yes,transfer your office into the EU of course then offshore it all.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 8, 2022
  • #10,743
Brighton Sky Blue said:
On that last point yes it has, however it’s a new development to have this Trumpian effect of conspiracy nutters carrying out threats based on what the PM himself has said. He’s wielding it without any care of the consequences
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It’s hardly a new development and the protest group were the rag tag Piers Corbyn bunch weren’t they?

Also wasn’t David Lammy there? Lammy who said Tories are Nazis and that those who supported Brexit were worse than Adolf Hitler. Ever the balanced is Mr “great big expense account” Lammy
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 8, 2022
  • #10,744
Grendel said:
It’s hardly a new development and the protest group were the rag tag Piers Corbyn bunch weren’t they?

Also wasn’t David Lammy there? Lammy who said Tories are Nazis and that those who supported Brexit were worse than Adolf Hitler. Ever the balanced is Mr “great big expense account” Lammy
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The excellent Dan Hodges


And there’s the small matter that Boris Johnson employed his “old chum” Piers Corbyn as an advisor and urged others to listen to him.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 8, 2022
  • #10,745
Sick Boy said:
I see Rees Mogg has been made minister for Brexit Opportunities-
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They’ll be no downside to Brexit only considerable upsides. And as soon as we’ve found them we’ll let you know. 6 years after that statement and 2 years after leaving. Talk about locking the door after the horse has bolted.
 
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