David O'Day
Well-Known Member
Lord Ahmed hasn't been a Labour peer for 8 years so not sure that is teh gotcha ESB thinks it is.
He is rightly in jail and should be in for even longer
He is rightly in jail and should be in for even longer
How did she become an MP in the first place?!! Who’d be stupid enough for vote for someone like herI think Nadine Dorries realises if Johnson goes then it is a return to the backbenches and obscurity for her.
She's soon going to be the equivalent of Jayne Innes locally.
How did she become an MP in the first place?!! Who’d be stupid enough for vote for someone like her
…I’d prefer to have people who are actually competent. Saying this to a Johnson and current cabinet champion probably doesn’t mean a lot though.I thought working class people from poor backgrounds - and a female as well - would be the type of person you’d like to see in politics?
I thought working class people from poor backgrounds - and a female as well - would be the type of person you’d like to see in politics?
I bet none of them have runner up to Nadine Dorries on their CV.
God she's so awful.
No wonder we're in the state we are when this is that standard of cabinet minister.
The way she reacted it’s like he was hiding round the corner and they had been bustedGod she's so awful.
No wonder we're in the state we are when this is that standard of cabinet minister.
The way she reacted it’s like he was hiding round the corner and they had been busted
Fuuuuucking hell. Trumps coming back isn’t he?
He’s definitely running in 24
He’s not getting re-elected
Doesn't really matter what people think of Biden.He still owns the Republican base and Biden’s approval is just awful. Wouldn’t bet against it
Doesn't really matter what people think of Biden.
Really doesn't. Nobody cares about how popular or otherwise a former president is.Kind of does
Tricky when the offence was when he was 16-17I heard this on 5live on the way home and the report pissed me off.
It said there are calls for Lord Ahmed to be stripped of his title, fuck anything about his title, he only got 5 years.
Is stripping him of his title the big issue here? He's shound never be allowed out.
Tricky when the offence was when he was 16-17
In terms of sentence. Of course guilty is guilty my friend. What would you expect a 16-17 year old sentence to be?Not in my eyes, guilty is guilty.
In terms of sentence. Of course guilty is guilty my friend. What would you expect a 16-17 year old sentence to be?
They absolutely have I understand that . I just wondered what a sensible person like you thinks is an appropriate sentence for a 16 year old? I think it feels very different when someone is found guilty as an older adultWell 5 years is an insult.
I'm not one of the flog em and hang em brigade but his victims are going to have to live with this longer than 5 years.
They absolutely have I understand that . I just wondered what a sensible person like you thinks is an appropriate sentence for a 16 year old? I think it feels very different when someone is found guilty as an older adult
That’s true too although he did plead not guilty so unlikely to come forward with something he doesn’t think happened. You make a good point about not coming forward being a factor that should be taken into account. Thanks for helping me think about these things more fullyWe find children culpable at ridiculously early age in this country, (.think it might be 10,not sure), but he's eluded prosecution and obviously thought he'd got way with it.
He could have came forward at any time and pleaded immaturity as a mitigating circumstance but didn't because he thought he was in the clear, 5 years is an insult.
We find children culpable at ridiculously early age in this country, (.think it might be 10,not sure), but he's eluded prosecution and obviously thought he'd got way with it.
He could have came forward at any time and pleaded immaturity as a mitigating circumstance but didn't because he thought he was in the clear, 5 years is an insult.
I’m sorry you’re right it’s 10. Although 10-14 they have to be shown not only they did it but that they knew it was wrong.That’s true too although he did plead not guilty so unlikely to come forward with something he doesn’t think happened. You make a good point about not coming forward being a factor that should be taken into account. Thanks for helping me think about these things more fully
Think the age is 12 in the uk. As high as 18 in some countries and certainly our brains aren’t fully mature at 16 but I’m no expert in any of these areas
Think 8 is the minimum legal culpability for murder
I’m sorry you’re right it’s 10. Although 10-14 they have to be shown not only they did it but that they knew it was wrong.
Didn't realise it went aslow as that. Food for thought there.
YeahAs heineous as the murder of James Bulger was, gangs of adults chasing the police van with those toe rags in never sat easy with me.
There's a lot if grey areas in these discussions
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