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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,431
Grendel said:
No it was an event - it was a perfectly legal gathering. The MP as well I like. He did have a similar attitude to the rules

In the height of lockdown 1 I broke said rules pretty much every day
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'perfectly legal gathering' now. You really are making sure you're going for the Tory bingo full-house aren't you.

Good job for you the police don't investigate law breaking that happened in the past...
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,432
Terry Gibson's perm said:
But who is talking about him keep it current
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Well that’s also ridiculous as you have to look at context. If it was phrased correctly it’s not really libellous - the only person who stepped over the line was cakey SDP man
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,433
Terry Gibson's perm said:
How do we know as some people actually believe his lies
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The story has been on the media circuit for years. It was a thread on here once.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,434
Grendel said:
Well that’s also ridiculous as you have to look at context. If it was phrased correctly it’s not really libellous - the only person who stepped over the line was cakey SDP man
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Not what a lawyer said today he has challenged Johnson to say it out of parliament.

doesn’t matter how is phrased it was a lie
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,435
Grendel said:
What Johnson said didn’t ruin people’s lives and although it was pretty stupid and ridiculous it really impacted no one
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Watson’s didn’t either really. And wasn’t known to be untrue at the time.

But if we’re calling equivalence I look forward to Johnson’s apology and subsequent disappearance as an MP.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,436
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Not what a lawyer said today he has challenged Johnson to say it out of parliament.

doesn’t matter how is phrased it was a lie
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Well was Sir Keir Starmer head of the CPS when it was decided not to prosecute Saville - yes he was

People defend anything if they back tbe cause. The denials that Corbyn and McDonnell were active supoorters of the Irish Republican Army being a case on point
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,437
Grendel said:
What Johnson said didn’t ruin people’s lives and although it was pretty stupid and ridiculous it really impacted no one
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So finding out the rules that had been put in place, that meant people had to let loved ones live and die alone, never getting the chance to say goodbye or console their families, were being broken on an almost daily basis by the Prime Minister and his cronies just so they could have a drink after work, isn't going to play on their minds for the rest of their lives?
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,438
Grendel said:
Well was Sir Keir Starmer head of the CPS when it was decided not to prosecute Saville - yes he was

People defend anything if they back tbe cause. The denials that Corbyn and McDonnell were active supoorters of the Irish Republican Army being a case on point
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Starmer had nothing to do with the decision. It’s like saying Johnson failed to prosecute Saville. Or you did.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,439
Grendel said:
Well that’s also ridiculous as you have to look at context. If it was phrased correctly it’s not really libellous - the only person who stepped over the line was cakey SDP man
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How did he step over the line? He called him a liar. He's been proven to be a liar.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,440
shmmeee said:
Starmer had nothing to do with the decision. It’s like saying Johnson failed to prosecute Saville. Or you did.
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I know he didn’t have anything to do with the decision
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,441
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
How did he step over the line? He called him a liar. He's been proven to be a liar.
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That’s a breach of parliamentary rules
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,442
Grendel said:
What Johnson said didn’t ruin people’s lives and although it was pretty stupid and ridiculous it really impacted no one
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So are you suggesting that everyone who has been fined for breaking lockdown rules should be compensated?

You should also try saying that to someone who has loved ones that died during lockdown regardless of what and then obeyed the rules. You’re actually a bit of c**t for even contemplating let alone going through with trivialising this. What an awful excuse you are for a human being.
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,443
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,444
Grendel said:
That’s a breach of parliamentary rules
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And do you not think that's a ridiculous state of affairs? That someone in the house can make any suggestion they like about anyone else and that's fine under 'parliamentary privilege', but to call a member of that house a liar isn't fine, even when it has been demonstrably proven many times that's exactly what he is?

How can you hold someone corrupt to account if you can't call them out for it in the very place you need to be able to?

The laws of that house are an ass, based in tradition that has absolutely no place in a functioning democracy. it should be held to the same standards as anywhere outside the chamber.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,445
Grendel said:
Well was Sir Keir Starmer head of the CPS when it was decided not to prosecute Saville - yes he was

People defend anything if they back tbe cause. The denials that Corbyn and McDonnell were active supoorters of the Irish Republican Army being a case on point
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The stuff about Starmer and Saville really is the dregs of the barrel and sums up Johnson perfectly.
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,446
Absolute waste of space Hoyle is


 
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skybluetony176

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,447
Grendel said:
That’s a breach of parliamentary rules
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He only broke them in a limited and specific way though so…

Plus no one told him that it was against the rules to be truthful so…

Plus it didn’t really impact anyone so…
 
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Ian1779

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,448
shmmeee said:
Got what he wanted, which is everyone saying Starmer and Saville in the same sentence over and over.
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There was something to this end on LBC this morning…. The minutiae gets lost in all the noise and they just hear those two words.
 

Ian1779

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,449
Sick Boy said:
The stuff about Starmer and Saville really is the dregs of the barrel and sums up Johnson perfectly.
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Of course it is - there is no depth to the lies the people in power will tell to maintain it.
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,450
This poll is from before yesterday's shambles too


 

skybluetony176

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,451
Ian1779 said:
There was something to this end on LBC this morning…. The minutiae gets lost in all the noise and they just hear those two words.
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Been tuning in and out of LBC all day and the thing I was struck by was the number of callers who consider themselves traditional Tories having voted Tory for decades (some even party members) saying that they’re essentially Tories without a party and most of them also saying that they didn’t vote in the 2019 GE as they couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Boris or the party he’s turned the Tories into. Never really thought of that before.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,452
skybluetony176 said:
Been tuning in and out of LBC all day and the thing I was struck by was the number of callers who consider themselves traditional Tories having voted Tory for decades (some even party members) saying that they’re essentially Tories without a party and most of them also saying that they didn’t vote in the 2019 GE as they couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Boris or the party he’s turned the Tories into. Never really thought of that before.
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That’s what happens when you move a broad church party off to the fringes.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,453
Terry Gibson's perm said:
So Johnson won’t retract his lies against Starmer from yesterday, let’s see if he will say it outside of parliament without his privilege.
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So he’s allowed to do that while Blackford is chucked out for stating Johnson lied
 
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clint van damme

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,454
PVA said:
Absolute waste of space Hoyle is


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What a fucking wet lettuce he is
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,455
shmmeee said:
That’s what happens when you move a broad church party off to the fringes.
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No different to Republicans put off by Trump, they exist but as a group I imagine Tory voters are generally more loyal to the party or candidate.
 

Otis

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,456
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Labour still need to up their game if they are going to get in at the next election.
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I wish someone would up their game, not necessarily Labour. Just any credible alternative.
 
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Frostie

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,457
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,458
Brighton Sky Blue said:
No different to Republicans put off by Trump, they exist but as a group I imagine Tory voters are generally more loyal to the party or candidate.
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yeah, I think being Conservative in both name and nature, holding their nose and ticking the same box as always is more preferable to them than risking an alternative getting in.

Meanwhile the left will argue over the minutiae of what the parties want to do and end up with their worst possible outcome of a Tory government as a result.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,459
Frostie said:
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Full version is even funnier

 
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David O'Day

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #10,460
skybluetony176 said:
Been tuning in and out of LBC all day and the thing I was struck by was the number of callers who consider themselves traditional Tories having voted Tory for decades (some even party members) saying that they’re essentially Tories without a party and most of them also saying that they didn’t vote in the 2019 GE as they couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Boris or the party he’s turned the Tories into. Never really thought of that before.
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No one cares about parties mate
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 2, 2022
  • #10,461
International laughing stock

 

clint van damme

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  • Feb 2, 2022
  • #10,462
See the levelling ups going well.
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 2, 2022
  • #10,463
clint van damme said:
See the levelling ups going well.
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Oh dear.


 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 2, 2022
  • #10,464
Christ, whistle blower on LBC...

"Test Track and Trace was overspent on request of the tender.

The existing one was shelved because it wouldn't cost enough to implement

This came from the very top"

Absolute scum. Defend that Grendel.
 
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stupot07

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  • Feb 2, 2022
  • #10,465
What time was that on? Might get it on catch up

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