David O'Day
Well-Known Member
no one cares about parties
If the queen had had a group hug at Phil the Greeks funeral it wouldn't have been culpable for anyone dying, but she didn't, its called leading by example.
When did they actually do any work? I remember Ministers using the nonsense phrase 'we're working around the clock' a lot but clearly they really weren't.
People'll see him as Mr Eat Out to Help Out and furlough man, missing the fact that ideologically he's to the right of Thatcher!
Rishi Sunak makes Ed Milliband look cool.
Agreed. That’s what I was saying about political gravity for want of a better phrase. What’s their differentiator ?!
Starmers played the quite dull but steady line well (much to the far lefts annoyance, however, it was exactly what was needed after Corbyn and against Johnson - perceived competence and trust)
Did you not see him serving food in his shirt and tie? He’s clearly a man of the people - I bet he can eat a sandwich without pulling a face as well.But he's rich and posh so that makes it OK.
5'8" Starmer vs 5'5" Sunak
Not exactly a battle of the titans
I'm not sure midget wrestling is ok anymoreWould be funny if they had a scrap though?
That was an all time classic, found to have broken the rules so they changed the rulesIt's just like the Council's Investigations.
"They did break the rules but the rules were wrong".
Imagine my surprise to learn that the Sue Gray enquiry is going to be a complete whitewash.
5'8" Starmer vs 5'5" Sunak
Not exactly a battle of the titans
Boris Johnson in turns out to be Boris Johnson shocker.Almost the whole country thinks he's a twat now.
We did try and warn you.
Corrected for you.Rishi Sunak makes Ed Milliband look Tall.
"far left" lolI think Sunak might suffer from the Miliband problem of being a wonky guy who tries to be slick with PR advisors and ends up just coming across as weird.
Either way I can see both Brexiters and the far left staying home and the lowest turnout we’ve seen for a while.
I mean really, the UK is a deeply unserious country with a silly media. The parties are scandalous but they are nothing on the level of some of the absolutely blatant corruption of the PPE contracts. It's embarrassing really.
I mean really, the UK is a deeply unserious country with a silly media. The parties are scandalous but they are nothing on the level of some of the absolutely blatant corruption of the PPE contracts. It's embarrassing really.
It's quite staggering how they keep digging and keep making themselves look more and more stupid
You'd think so but given everything that has gone on under Johnson you'd expect everyone but the most ardent Tory who would forgive them if they came round and murdered their whole family to be flocking to him. They're not. Even Labour supporters are largely lukewarm to him.
Starmer should have all the gravitas needed to be seen as a much better option. And the sad thing is, he would be if he had a blue tie on instead of a red one.
If you take that at face value they've apologised without knowing what they're apologising for or even if there is anything that requires an apologyIt's quite staggering how they keep digging and keep making themselves look more and more stupid
But the problem with these polls is that Labour are losing a similar number of voters to the Greens than as to what they're gaining from the Tories.I see it in a slightly different way. He comes across as pretty uninsirpiring but that isn’t bad if you’re following on from someone like Johnson (could be different if he’s up against a different Tory though). Sometimes luke warm will be enough.
Someone like Corbyn for example would not even get luke warm from a large proportion of the electorate so when you need a dramatic swing it’s irrelevant if a proportion of the left idolise him..it’s the swing voters and the centre Labour need to attract
But the problem with these polls is that Labour are losing a similar number of voters to the Greens than as to what they're gaining from the Tories.
The poll lead is due to a huge number of Conservatives going to don't know, if they're not swinging Labour now then I don't know when they ever will. Come election Labour would need to hope a lot of those just stay at home or the vote % would be close and that would result in a Tory government.
I think a unity Labour candidate, of which Starmer claimed to be, would be looking much stronger.
"far left" lol
But the problem with these polls is that Labour are losing a similar number of voters to the Greens than as to what they're gaining from the Tories.
The poll lead is due to a huge number of Conservatives going to don't know, if they're not swinging Labour now then I don't know when they ever will. Come election Labour would need to hope a lot of those just stay at home or the vote % would be close and that would result in a Tory government.
I think a unity Labour candidate, of which Starmer claimed to be, would be looking much stronger.
People are going to forget their half price pizza fairly soon when the energy price shock arrives.People'll see him as Mr Eat Out to Help Out and furlough man, missing the fact that ideologically he's to the right of Thatcher!
But the problem with these polls is that Labour are losing a similar number of voters to the Greens than as to what they're gaining from the Tories.
The poll lead is due to a huge number of Conservatives going to don't know, if they're not swinging Labour now then I don't know when they ever will. Come election Labour would need to hope a lot of those just stay at home or the vote % would be close and that would result in a Tory government.
I think a unity Labour candidate, of which Starmer claimed to be, would be looking much stronger.
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