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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (23 Viewers)

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CCFCSteve

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  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,731
Skybluefaz said:
Cheap bar in Parliament too.
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Or BYO at No 10
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,732
rob9872 said:
So easily triggered, it's copied ffs and thought it would be a fun place to post it. Anyhow I don't do Facebook but if I did it would be

D) Me dressed as Boris teabagging you mum
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More likely you dressed as your mum while getting teabagged by Boris.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,733
shmmeee said:
Difference is you haven’t got 10% soft UKIP vote to rely on coming home come polling time.

Bonus is it seems to be stuck to Johnson, but Tories are in a bit of an identity crisis. Johnson remade the PCP in his image with his great purge, Sunak would struggle to hold onto the seats Johnson won with reheated Thatcherism and politics by numbers and Truss is another Johnson without the meme value.
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Let's not confuse Grenners the dumb with facts now.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,734
rob9872 said:
It appears I might be alone, but i honestly couldn't care less if they had a party evert night of the summer. It didn't affect me and I wasn't surprised by there bring one or the faux outrage and petty point scoring about then, but it's pretty boring now and if that really is all they've got I'd be laughing at their chances. I think come the next election you'll be as surprised as you always are at a Conservative victory. Hopefully the price will get better and be some value in it.
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you can barely afford a 50p bet mate
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,735
CCFCSteve said:
Could happen. Best thing for Labour is Johnson hanging on but you’re right, as this is on ‘his watch’ a new leader to come in, say they’ll run a tight ship etc may help. I do feel the ‘political gravity’ (I cringe using that phrase but will ) is against the Tories though and likely very little good news in the short term/ahead of an election, other than maybe getting out the pandemic a bit quicker than others
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Their best bet remains Sunak on a fiscal responsibility ticket, I just wonder how much appetite there will be for that after 12 years of this government and two years of pandemic is a question. Also how much those that voted Tory for investment will support that.

rob9872 said:
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The random use of capital letters here is annoying me no end.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,736
shmmeee said:
Their best bet remains Sunak on a fiscal responsibility ticket, I just wonder how much appetite there will
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People'll see him as Mr Eat Out to Help Out and furlough man, missing the fact that ideologically he's to the right of Thatcher!
 
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PVA

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  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,737
I have absolutely no doubt that you dress as Boris in your
Nick said:
Need to get me a job at number 10, they love a swig.
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Apparently the Sue Grey report is not going to put the blame on anyone but is going to find that there is a drinking culture.

No shit Sue.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,738
Deleted member 5849 said:
People'll see him as Mr Eat Out to Help Out and furlough man, missing the fact that ideologically he's to the right of Thatcher!
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Thats the thing. He’ll get support in the party for that and because on paper he’s the most popular Tory MP. But the question is exactly that how much of his support is cos of free Nando’s rather than a respect for fiscal responsibility?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,739
shmmeee said:
Thats the thing. He’ll get support in the party for that and because on paper he’s the most popular Tory MP. But the question is exactly that how much of his support is cos of free Nando’s rather than a respect for fiscal responsibility?
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It actually makes him ideally qualified atm, that he'll be seen as Mr generous where they've gained from Labour, but in reactionary Tory heartlands he'll be seen as the fiscally competent Thatcher heir who will get us back on the right track.
 

rob9872

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  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,740
David O'Day said:
you can barely afford a 50p bet mate
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Imagine the irony of a tory hater trying to belittle someone for having no wealth. Even when you try to be smart you end up looking a bit of a cunty bollocks.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,741
rob9872 said:
t appears I might be alone, but i honestly couldn't care less if they had a party evert night of the summer.
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You certainly don't tally with this lot:

Covid: 'I couldn't visit my brother to tell him mum had died'

People share their stories of separation and loss from May 2020 amid anger over the No 10 lockdown party.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,742
Deleted member 5849 said:
People'll see him as Mr Eat Out to Help Out and furlough man, missing the fact that ideologically he's to the right of Thatcher!
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That's what will happen at the start but as time goes by that will wain and his brand of reheated austerity will undue the gains the Johnson CP have made in the north.
 
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PVA

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  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,743
Why do they keep lying when they know that further evidence and details are almost certain to come out?

It's like they can't think more than a day ahead. Just tell another lie to get through this day and see what tomorrow brings.

Also they are so detached from reality and completely incapable of reading the room.


 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,744
Rishi Sunak makes Ed Milliband look cool.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,745
I see cap doffers are out in force.
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,746
Sick Boy said:
I see cap doffers are out in force.
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But the posh men are better than us
 

rob9872

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  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,747
Deleted member 5849 said:
You certainly don't tally with this lot:

Covid: 'I couldn't visit my brother to tell him mum had died'

People share their stories of separation and loss from May 2020 amid anger over the No 10 lockdown party.
www.bbc.co.uk
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And that's a shame. Genuine sympathy for those people, but equally none of that happened because of the party. I do get that people are outraged despite me not being so, but to hear some referencing it you'd almost think they were culpable for the death because of the party.

As I said further up, they were already working closely together within the walls of no10, so the risk wasn't increased by staying on longer. The difference only in the choice of drink being a wine and not a coffee. If they'd gone along specifically for the party that's different (imo) but I've not heard of anyone doing that, if anyone has info on that, then it would change my opinion on proceedings.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,748
While they were telling the country it was too dangerous to go for coffee in a park with your mate and you would kill OAPS they were having parties.

Pretty sure if they thought they were at such risk they would have been in bunkers.

Obviously, the parties are double standards, the big disgrace is that they had got the population so petrified they weren't seeing dying relatives while they carried on as normal.
 

Frostie

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  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,749
rob9872 said:
And that's a shame. Genuine sympathy for those people, but equally none of that happened because of the party. I do get that people are outraged despite me not being so, but to hear some referencing it you'd almost think they were culpable for the death because of the party.

As I said further up, they were already working closely together within the walls of no10, so the risk wasn't increased by staying on longer. The difference only in the choice of drink being a wine and not a coffee. If they'd gone along specifically for the party that's different (imo) but I've not heard of anyone doing that, if anyone has info on that, then it would change my opinion on proceedings.
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David O'Day

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  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,750
Sick Boy said:
I see cap doffers are out in force.
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Well the Leamington weirdo and the Walter Mitty are for sure
 
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PVA

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  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,751
rob9872 said:
And that's a shame. Genuine sympathy for those people, but equally none of that happened because of the party. I do get that people are outraged despite me not being so, but to hear some referencing it you'd almost think they were culpable for the death because of the party.

As I said further up, they were already working closely together within the walls of no10, so the risk wasn't increased by staying on longer. The difference only in the choice of drink being a wine and not a coffee. If they'd gone along specifically for the party that's different (imo) but I've not heard of anyone doing that, if anyone has info on that, then it would change my opinion on proceedings.
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Here's two for starters that came specifically for the party.

And nobody is suggesting that these parties killed anyone or that those people grieving in that story are blaming the parties for not being able to spend time with their loved ones.

You are spectacularly missing the point.

edit: @Frostie beat me to it

 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,752
Nick said:
While they were telling the country it was too dangerous to go for coffee in a park with your mate and you would kill OAPS they were having parties.

Pretty sure if they thought they were at such risk they would have been in bunkers.
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We’re talking about a guy (Johnson) who falls for every conspiracy theory going and used to praise Piers Corbyn. Who also thinks he’s above everyone else and normal rules don’t apply to him.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,753
shmmeee said:
Their best bet remains Sunak on a fiscal responsibility ticket, I just wonder how much appetite there will be for that after 12 years of this government and two years of pandemic is a question. Also how much those that voted Tory for investment will support that.
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Agreed. That’s what I was saying about political gravity for want of a better phrase. What’s their differentiator ?!
Starmers played the quite dull but steady line well (much to the far lefts annoyance, however, it was exactly what was needed after Corbyn and against Johnson - perceived competence and trust)
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 14, 2022
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CCFCSteve said:
Agreed. That’s what I was saying about political gravity for want of a better phrase. What’s their differentiator ?!
Starmers played the quite dull but steady line well (much to the far lefts annoyance, however, it was exactly what was needed after Corbyn and against Johnson - perceived competence and trust)
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I'd also think Starmer might perform better in debate against somebody more 'normal' too. He did really well in the Brexit debates, but seems totally flummoxed by Johnson's ability to just state a total untruth and go for a jokey play to the gallery. It needs Rayner to call Johnson a cock, which is something Starmer struggles to do!
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,755
Deleted member 5849 said:
I'd also think Starmer might perform better in debate against somebody more 'normal' too. He did really well in the Brexit debates, but seems totally flummoxed by Johnson's ability to just state a total untruth and go for a jokey play to the gallery. It needs Rayner to call Johnson a cock, which is something Starmer struggles to do!
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I think Sunak might suffer from the Miliband problem of being a wonky guy who tries to be slick with PR advisors and ends up just coming across as weird.

Either way I can see both Brexiters and the far left staying home and the lowest turnout we’ve seen for a while.
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,756
I spent months chasing local councillors and eventually Taiwo Owatemi to get the football goalposts reinstated in the Allesley Park because they were removed to 'stop people gathering' which meant that I spent less time exercising and spending time at the park with the kids.

At the same time they were planning 100 people getting pissed in the garden.

Taken for absolute mugs.
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,757
shmmeee said:
Either way I can see both Brexiters and the far left staying home
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,758
Who cares about a few canapes and prosecco when his royal highness Oliver Cromwell once cancelled christmas????
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,759
Nick said:
Need to get me a job at number 10, they love a swig.
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They were working around the clock.
 
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PVA

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  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,760
I have written to my (Tory) MP to ask if he'll be sending his letter in, and whether he thinks it was right that I was only able to see my newborn daughter in hospital for an hour a day while No10 partied away.
 
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Frostie

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  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,761
skybluetony176 said:
They were working around the clock.
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PVA

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  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,762
Almost the whole country thinks he's a twat now.

We did try and warn you.


 

Frostie

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  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,763
Imagine my surprise to learn that the Sue Gray enquiry is going to be a complete whitewash.

 
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Nick

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  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,764
Frostie said:
Imagine my surprise to learn that the Sue Gray enquiry is going to be a complete whitewash.

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It's just like the Council's Investigations.

"They did break the rules but the rules were wrong".
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #9,765
rob9872 said:
And that's a shame. Genuine sympathy for those people, but equally none of that happened because of the party. I do get that people are outraged despite me not being so, but to hear some referencing it you'd almost think they were culpable for the death because of the party.

As I said further up, they were already working closely together within the walls of no10, so the risk wasn't increased by staying on longer. The difference only in the choice of drink being a wine and not a coffee. If they'd gone along specifically for the party that's different (imo) but I've not heard of anyone doing that, if anyone has info on that, then it would change my opinion on proceedings.
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If the queen had had a group hug at Phil the Greeks funeral it wouldn't have been culpable for anyone dying, but she didn't, its called leading by example.
 
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