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skybluetony176

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  • Jan 12, 2022
  • #9,661
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Trouble is it doesn't matter right now. What matters is when the next election happens and by then I fear this will all have been forgotten
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True but then this is a Conservative party hand picked by Boris. It doesn’t matter who replaces him they’re going to be equally awful.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jan 12, 2022
  • #9,662
Deleted member 5849 said:
Christ, I know he's a duplicitous shit, but to suggest he delivered us Covid is a bit far
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Especially when he hasn’t even delivered Brexit.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 12, 2022
  • #9,663
skybluetony176 said:
True but then this is a Conservative party hand picked by Boris. It doesn’t matter who replaces him they’re going to be equally awful.
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Their only hope is RoboRishi, him vs Starmer is going to be something.

 
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stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 12, 2022
  • #9,664
Rees-Mogg on Newsnight lying through his teeth. Trying to say it was technically in the guidance bollocks.

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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 12, 2022
  • #9,665
Nadhim Zahawi talking total bollocks on Peston defending Boris. They’re lining up to fall on his sword with him.
 
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stupot07

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  • Jan 12, 2022
  • #9,666
skybluetony176 said:
Nadhim Zahawi talking total bollocks on Peston defending Boris. They’re lining up to fall on his sword with him.
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I've just watched it, really is disgraceful defence.

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SkyBlueCharlie9

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9,667
Marty said:
This has turned into a witch hunt. #LeaveBorisAlone
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Satire?
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9,668
Nick Robinson doing his best to defend Boris on R4, absolutely embarrassing.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9,669
I saw that Johnson has the power to veto an investigation into himself.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9,670
Sick Boy said:
I saw that Johnson has the power to veto an investigation into himself.
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British politics must be starting to make Italian politics look respectable by now.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9,671
skybluetony176 said:
British politics must be starting to make Italian politics look respectable by now.
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Haha, once Draghi goes it will revert back to normal.
 

Frostie

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  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9,672
skybluetony176 said:
British politics must be starting to make Italian politics look respectable by now.
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It's genuinely amazing how foreign newspapers can see exactly what's happening but this country simply turns a blind eye.

From the New York Times:

 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9,673
Frostie said:
It's genuinely amazing how foreign newspapers can see exactly what's happening but this country simply turns a blind eye.

From the New York Times:

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It’s not even like this should come as a surprise to anyone. Boris Johnson turning out to be Boris Johnson is hardly a shocking headline.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9,674
Did JRM really just say what I thought he said in the HOC. If Boris broke the rules it wasn’t his fault because the rules were too strict.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9,675
skybluetony176 said:
Did JRM really just say what I thought he said in the HOC. If Boris broke the rules it wasn’t his fault because the rules were too strict.
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He said some Latin words in a posh voice first so he must be right.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9,676
Frostie said:
It's genuinely amazing how foreign newspapers can see exactly what's happening but this country simply turns a blind eye.

From the New York Times:

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Same can be said for pretty much anywhere. The US did it themselves with Trump. Italy with Berlusconi. Even those with unhealthy amounts of control like Xi, Putin and the tinpot dictators of eastern Europe have people who would defend them to their last breath even if they weren't silenced by the state.

People find it much harder to find (or admit) the fault in themselves.
 
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PVA

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  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9,677
skybluetony176 said:
Did JRM really just say what I thought he said in the HOC. If Boris broke the rules it wasn’t his fault because the rules were too strict.
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I think what he meant/wanted to say is that the rules were perfectly fine for scummy pauper peasants like you and I, but far too strict for people such as he and Johnson.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9,678


 
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Grendel

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  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9,679
Skybluefaz said:
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Oh no I can’t remember the last time Labour had such a lead



Oh I just have
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9,680
Nick said:


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Skybluefaz

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  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9,681
Grendel said:
Oh no I can’t remember the last time Labour had such a lead



Oh I just have
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Do you not think such poor polling will do for Johnson?
 
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PVA

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  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9,682
Grendel said:
Oh no I can’t remember the last time Labour had such a lead



Oh I just have
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Grendel

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  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9,683
Skybluefaz said:
Do you not think such poor polling will do for Johnson?
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Politics really is about the here and now at election time

Labour leads Conservatives by 12 points in poll

Guardian/ICM poll gives Ed Miliband's party 41% of vote and David Cameron's 29% – the biggest gap in almost a decade
amp.theguardian.com
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9,684
Grendel said:
Politics really is about the here and now at election time

Labour leads Conservatives by 12 points in poll

Guardian/ICM poll gives Ed Miliband's party 41% of vote and David Cameron's 29% – the biggest gap in almost a decade
amp.theguardian.com
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Difference is you haven’t got 10% soft UKIP vote to rely on coming home come polling time.

Bonus is it seems to be stuck to Johnson, but Tories are in a bit of an identity crisis. Johnson remade the PCP in his image with his great purge, Sunak would struggle to hold onto the seats Johnson won with reheated Thatcherism and politics by numbers and Truss is another Johnson without the meme value.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9,685
Grendel said:
Politics really is about the here and now at election time

Labour leads Conservatives by 12 points in poll

Guardian/ICM poll gives Ed Miliband's party 41% of vote and David Cameron's 29% – the biggest gap in almost a decade
amp.theguardian.com
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David Cameron wasn’t a liability on a weekly basis. Dominic Cummings is not only hellbent on ending Boris’ career he’s setting out to torture him in the process. He’s going to keep drip feeding the dirt giving Boris enough opportunity between to tell enough lies to hang himself. The only question is how many lives he has. No was Boris will make the next GE, he might not see next week out.
 

rob9872

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  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9,686
4 years into a supposed shit show, a world pandemic ongoing, wtf would they normally be debating and yet still the best attack the opposition have is 'yeah but you went to a party in your garden 18 months ago'. Whatever you might think about Boris, if I was a Labour voter I'd be genuinely concerned at the lack of genuine substance.
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9,687
Grendel said:
Politics really is about the here and now at election time

Labour leads Conservatives by 12 points in poll

Guardian/ICM poll gives Ed Miliband's party 41% of vote and David Cameron's 29% – the biggest gap in almost a decade
amp.theguardian.com
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I haven't said otherwise.
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9,688
rob9872 said:
4 years into a supposed shit show, a world pandemic ongoing, wtf would they normally be debating and yet still the best attack the opposition have is 'yeah but you went to a party in your garden 18 months ago'. Whatever you might think about Boris, if I was a Labour voter I'd be genuinely concerned at the lack of genuine substance.
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Context is important is it not? It's not just 'going to a party in your back garden' is it? Labour tried to get the vat on energy cut to help with the cost of living. Obviously voted down.
 
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PVA

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  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9,689
rob9872 said:
4 years into a supposed shit show, a world pandemic ongoing, wtf would they normally be debating and yet still the best attack the opposition have is 'yeah but you went to a party in your garden 18 months ago'. Whatever you might think about Boris, if I was a Labour voter I'd be genuinely concerned at the lack of genuine substance.
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It's not Labour's fault the public don't care about corruption, gross incompetence, thousands of avoidable deaths and the Brexit disaster.

The parties just happens to be the one scandal that has stuck and hit home for the general public. Why wouldn't Labour take advantage of that?
 
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rob9872

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  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9,690
It appears I might be alone, but i honestly couldn't care less if they had a party evert night of the summer. It didn't affect me and I wasn't surprised by there bring one or the faux outrage and petty point scoring about then, but it's pretty boring now and if that really is all they've got I'd be laughing at their chances. I think come the next election you'll be as surprised as you always are at a Conservative victory. Hopefully the price will get better and be some value in it.
 
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PVA

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  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9,691
rob9872 said:
It appears I might be alone, but i honestly couldn't care less if they had a party evert night of the summer. It didn't affect me and I wasn't surprised by there bring one or the faux outrage and petty point scoring about then, but it's pretty boring now and if that really is all they've got I'd be laughing at their chances. I think come the next election you'll be as surprised as you always are at a Conservative victory. Hopefully the price will get better and be some value in it.
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You're not one. Just you and Grendel.

It didn't affect you so it's fine. I'm alright Jack. Spoken like a true Tory.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9,692
shmmeee said:
Difference is you haven’t got 10% soft UKIP vote to rely on coming home come polling time.

Bonus is it seems to be stuck to Johnson, but Tories are in a bit of an identity crisis. Johnson remade the PCP in his image with his great purge, Sunak would struggle to hold onto the seats Johnson won with reheated Thatcherism and politics by numbers and Truss is another Johnson without the meme value.
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It’s a fair point but Johnson I’m sure was never interested in another term and he will I believe carry on until a bounce back impact leader is appointed and he was always going to lose a lot of the north seats anyway.
 
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rob9872

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  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9,693
PVA said:
You're not one. Just you and Grendel.

It didn't affect you so it's fine. I'm alright Jack. Spoken like a true Tory.
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It didn't affect you either, just nothing better to whinge about.
 
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PVA

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  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9,694
rob9872 said:
It didn't affect you either, just nothing better to whinge about.
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How the fuck do you know?

But you're alright Jack, who cares about everyone else?
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9,695
PVA said:
How the fuck do you know?

But you're alright Jack, who cares about everyone else?
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Because it didn't actually affect anyone. They were inside all day working together. If they'd stayed behind and had a coffee nothing would've mattered. Outside is actually safer. The only difference is it was called a party and they had some wine. Boohoo.
 
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