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shmmeee

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  • Dec 20, 2021
  • #9,521
CCFCSteve said:
I’m aware of nurses, doctors, teachers and various other people that were breaching the rules to varying extents. I know I also did over Xmas.

I agree that there should rightly be anger at the rule makers breaching rules but as I’ve mentioned above/before there are varying levels, some far more serious than others. People like Ferguson, Hancock, Cummings etc who drove policy being worst hypocrites of the lot
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Most people did follow the rules is the thing. Perhaps why some are more angry than others. I know I didn’t have a 40th birthday party because of lockdown and definitely didn’t have a work Christmas do.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 20, 2021
  • #9,522
shmmeee said:
Most people did follow the rules is the thing. Perhaps why some are more angry than others. I know I didn’t have a 40th birthday party because of lockdown and definitely didn’t have a work Christmas do.
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They didn’t though. A lot did but not most. After first lockdown adherence dropped and there was far more residential mixing in future lockdowns. During Mid Feb ‘21 onwards mixing was even above baseline even though we were still in lockdown until early March.

Household mixing during COVID-19: our research suggests adherence to lockdowns in England declined over time

We analysed mobility data provided by almost one million people in England between January 2020 and May 2021, seeking to understand trends in residential visits during the pandemic.
theconversation.com

I’ve also read other studies about compliance. Even at its peak I think it was something like 55% admitted total adherence, less for key workers. Even then I wonder whether everyone surveyed being honest or fully knew the rules ? I bet if you start be breaking that down to younger, lower risk age groups, total compliance would’ve been a lot lower

So, I agree loads are annoyed, but most aren’t whiter than white. If it was a big Christmas party held, I will be pissed off. The after work gatherings of people who worked together anyway, Im not impressed but can’t say I’m going to get too upset....and that picture earlier

Ps for information I totally complied for around 10 weeks until around Queens jubilee (late May) even though I lived alone. Not even a walk outside with friends. I was worried about putting pressure on nhs unnecessarily. Since then I’ve made my own judgement calls
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 20, 2021
  • #9,523
'Stand up if you hate Boris' rings out at the darts

The whole country hates him now and you love to see it
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 20, 2021
  • #9,524
Sick Boy said:
Yeah it’ll be the cost and the political fallout, plus there would need to be a conversation about being inclusive of unionism.
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I don’t really see how you integrate people whose identity has just been erased at the ballot box. When the Free State was formed the unionists in the South just upped and left, who knows what those in a UI actually do.

What’s clear to me is it wouldn’t be happening or even on the table if Westminster governments over the years had given a damn about the place and not just hoped for it to sort itself out.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 20, 2021
  • #9,525
PVA said:
'Stand up if you hate Boris' rings out at the darts

The whole country hates him now and you love to see it
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How many there voted him in I wonder
 
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Ian1779

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  • Dec 20, 2021
  • #9,526
Brighton Sky Blue said:
How many there voted him in I wonder
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Stand up if you hate Boris, no sit down if you voted for him… like the shittest game of Guess Who ever.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Dec 20, 2021
  • #9,527
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I don’t really see how you integrate people whose identity has just been erased at the ballot box. When the Free State was formed the unionists in the South just upped and left, who knows what those in a UI actually do.

What’s clear to me is it wouldn’t be happening or even on the table if Westminster governments over the years had given a damn about the place and not just hoped for it to sort itself out.
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That’s why it’s such an issue and not as straightforward as is being claimed on here in terms of the vote.
I agree, the British government couldn’t care less about the north of Ireland - I’m all for reunification.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Dec 22, 2021
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Nick

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  • Dec 22, 2021
  • #9,529


Let's face it, the huge majority of them will be hypocritical bellends when they can try and make things political.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Dec 22, 2021
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Liquid Gold

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  • Dec 22, 2021
  • #9,531
skybluetony176 said:
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Brave little cis boy
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 22, 2021
  • #9,532

the honeymoon period is over
 
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stupot07

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  • Dec 22, 2021
  • #9,533
Nick said:


Let's face it, the huge majority of them will be hypocritical bellends when they can try and make things political.
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To be fair they've probably had to do a lateral flow and show their covid passport to attend that. I had to a when I went to watch the Charlatans over at the o2 academy in Birmingham 4-5 weeks ago way before Boris introduced the new rules.

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Nick

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  • Dec 22, 2021
  • #9,534
stupot07 said:
To be fair they've probably had to do a lateral flow and show their covid passport to attend that. I had to a when I went to watch the Charlatans over at the o2 academy in Birmingham 4-5 weeks ago way before Boris introduced the new rules.

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Yeah but then again are you also saying how unsafe you feel because of other political people aren't wearing them?
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 22, 2021
  • #9,535
stupot07 said:
To be fair they've probably had to do a lateral flow and show their covid passport to attend that. I had to a when I went to watch the Charlatans over at the o2 academy in Birmingham 4-5 weeks ago way before Boris introduced the new rules.

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Yeah but that doesn't fit Nick's narrative.
 

Nick

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  • Dec 22, 2021
  • #9,536
David O'Day said:
Yeah but that doesn't fit Nick's narrative.
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Nah it is clear as day. That's the issue when you only come on a football site to talk politics, you get a bit entrenched.

Woman is a hypocrite and clearly chats shit to try and be topical, I can see why you are sticking up for her.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Dec 23, 2021
  • #9,537
Looks like the campaigning to replace Johnson is gathering pace.

Liz Truss: the new Iron Lady?

If there’s a leadership race any time soon, there is one candidate the Tory faithful keep talking about. Charlotte Edwardes speaks to Westminster insiders about the most powerful woman in politics
www.thetimes.co.uk
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 23, 2021
  • #9,538
chiefdave said:
Looks like the campaigning to replace Johnson is gathering pace.

Liz Truss: the new Iron Lady?

If there’s a leadership race any time soon, there is one candidate the Tory faithful keep talking about. Charlotte Edwardes speaks to Westminster insiders about the most powerful woman in politics
www.thetimes.co.uk
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Not really. Her attempts to impersonate thatcher are pathetic.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 23, 2021
  • #9,539
Grendel said:
Not really. Her attempts to impersonate thatcher are pathetic.
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Too much of a Republican for you, I'd guess.
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 23, 2021
  • #9,540
Deleted member 5849 said:
Too much of a Republican for you, I'd guess.
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At least when Thatcher turned up in a tank she did it when there was some risk and everyone thought she was barking mad. Truss is a publicity seeking Pygmy by comparison
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 23, 2021
  • #9,541
Grendel said:
At least when Thatcher turned up in a tank she did it when there was some risk and everyone thought she was barking mad. Truss is a publicity seeking Pygmy by comparison
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So basically PM material then. By the current standards at least.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 23, 2021
  • #9,542
We’re in a weird situation where Boris needs to go and you look at the Tory benches and the only person I see on them who doesn’t completely strike fear into me at the prospect of taking over is ex PM Theresa May.

Seriously. Who else is going to be an improvement on Boris? Which is in itself a shocking question given how low the bar currently is.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 23, 2021
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skybluetony176 said:
We’re in a weird situation where Boris needs to go and you look at the Tory benches and the only person I see on them who doesn’t completely strike fear into me at the prospect of taking over is ex PM Theresa May.

Seriously. Who else is going to be an improvement on Boris? Which is in itself a shocking question given how low the bar currently is.
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We were in an odd position in the leadership contest, where Jeremy Hunt seemed an ideal PM, and someone you'd feel the health service was safe under.

That's just how low we've sunk(!)
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Dec 23, 2021
  • #9,544
Grendel said:
Not really. Her attempts to impersonate a human being are pathetic.
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Fixed
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Dec 23, 2021
  • #9,545
Deleted member 5849 said:
We were in an odd position in the leadership contest, where Jeremy Hunt seemed an ideal PM, and someone you'd feel the health service was safe under.

That's just how low we've sunk(!)
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Do you mean the same Jeremy Hunt who called for the NHS to be replaced with a US style insurance system in Direct Democracy: An Agenda For A New Model Party?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 23, 2021
  • #9,546
skybluetony176 said:
We’re in a weird situation where Boris needs to go and you look at the Tory benches and the only person I see on them who doesn’t completely strike fear into me at the prospect of taking over is ex PM Theresa May.

Seriously. Who else is going to be an improvement on Boris? Which is in itself a shocking question given how low the bar currently is.
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There must be someone with half a brain among the back benchers, perhaps one of the northern ones who owe him their seat. In truth though I think Gove must be the favourite as he does at least seem the most intelligent
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Dec 31, 2021
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Tony Blair knighted in the New Years honours.
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #9,548
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Tony Blair knighted in the New Years honours.
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Fucking shocking.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #9,549
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Tony Blair knighted in the New Years honours.
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Think they had a spare after Jimmy Savile forfeited his.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Dec 31, 2021
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clint van damme said:
Think they had a spare after Jimmy Savile forfeited his.
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Phillip Green, Jimmy Saville now Teflon Tony. These fuckers sure know how to pick them.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Dec 31, 2021
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Terry Gibson's perm said:
Tony Blair knighted in the New Years honours.
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That saves me checking why war criminal and the Hague are both trending on twitter.
 
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Mild-Mannered Janitor

Kindest Bloke on CCFC / Maker of CCFC Dreams
  • Jan 1, 2022
  • #9,552
Funny, we moan now about pandemic rules being broken by attending events, drinks, kissing etc but someone who took us to war without evidence and continues to lie about, killing people unnecessarily and spending billions it is given even greater status in the honours list, it’s incredible
 

clint van damme

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  • Jan 1, 2022
  • #9,553
Mild-Mannered Janitor said:
Funny, we moan now about pandemic rules being broken by attending events, drinks, kissing etc but someone who took us to war without evidence and continues to lie about, killing people unnecessarily and spending billions it is given even greater status in the honours list, it’s incredible
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It's the same system that's facilitated both.
 
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Mild-Mannered Janitor

Kindest Bloke on CCFC / Maker of CCFC Dreams
  • Jan 1, 2022
  • #9,554
clint van damme said:
It's the same system that's facilitated both.
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I know, I wonder whether we will see a newer party come forward in the next few years to tackle the moral and ESG elements in a far better way and offer genuinely something different but I’m not sure it will sadly
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jan 1, 2022
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Terry Gibson's perm said:
Tony Blair knighted in the New Years honours.
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Criminal. Both him and the decision to give him a knighthood.
 
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