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wingy

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  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,381
rob9872 said:
Really really disagree with this so strongly and not because of who it is, I'd be the same if it was Starmer or previously Corbyn. Whatever we do or don't think of them, politics has no place in football.

Especially at a time when we're trying to eradicate divisiveness based on race, religion, gender or sexual preference, adding politics to the mix brings a whole new level of hatred and is unnecessary and unacceptable. Support your team.
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Give over you Wally.
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,382
rob9872 said:
You're only saying that because you agree with them. Take a step back, as I've said in my edit, it's divisive. You'd agree I'd hope if it was on race or religion etc and wouldn't dismiss it as ok down the pub. It gas jo place in football.
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I do agree with them but that's not the point.

If Jurgen Klopp came out and said Boris Johnson is a twat then whilst I would agree with him I would agree with you that it's not on for someone like him to say that

You can't compare it to race etc. Of course singing about race is out of order, singing about someone being a twat (who chooses to be a twat) is totally different

What about when fans sing songs about the ref being a wanker, or someone being fat, is that divisive?
 

rob9872

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  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,383
PVA said:
I do agree with them but that's not the point.

If Jurgen Klopp came out and said Boris Johnson is a twat then whilst I would agree with him I would agree with you that it's not on for someone like him to say that

You can't compare it to race etc. Of course singing about race is out of order, singing about someone being a twat (who chooses to be a twat) is totally different

What about when fans sing songs about the ref being a wanker, or someone being fat, is that divisive?
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The ref is part of the game. Boris has nothing to do with it. Why cause divisiveness among your own fans? I wasn't the only one in the country who voted for him so a lot of people would be feeling alienated. It has nothing to to with the game. Is it okay to sing anti Muslim songs on the terraces after a terror attack? No it isn't and neither is this.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,384
rob9872 said:
Really really disagree with this so strongly and not because of who it is, I'd be the same if it was Starmer or previously Corbyn. Whatever we do or don't think of them, politics has no place in football.

Especially at a time when we're trying to eradicate divisiveness based on race, religion, gender or sexual preference, adding politics to the mix brings a whole new level of hatred and is unnecessary and unacceptable. Support your team.
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I'm inclined to agree. (Awaits someone reminding me what my profile picture is!).

Though I think that's a bit different.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,385
clint van damme said:
I'm inclined to agree. (Awaits someone reminding me what my profile picture is!).

Though I think that's a bit different.
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Why?
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,386
rob9872 said:
The ref is part of the game. Boris has nothing to do with it. Why cause divisiveness among your own fans? I wasn't the only one in the country who voted for him so a lot of people would be feeling alienated. It has nothing to to with the game. Is it okay to sing anti Muslim songs on the terraces after a terror attack? No it isn't and neither is this.
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Singing anti Muslim songs after a terror attack is nothing like singing the PM is a c**t, not remotely comparable

I'm not saying it should be encouraged, but if it reflects the general mood of the general public (which it does) then freedom of speech and all that, I wouldn't say it's bringing politics into football - like I say, someone in authority saying it would be though.
 

oakey

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  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,387
I'm against people pissing against hedges and walls outside events but there's f¥€£ all I can do about that so chill at political chanting.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,388
As Dimonic Raab stated this week Freedom of speech requires for a segment of society to be offended.
It's simple derision.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,389
clint van damme said:
I'm inclined to agree. (Awaits someone reminding me what my profile picture is!).

Though I think that's a bit different.
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Pretty much agree with what Rob said in his initial post.
It's not something that overly bothers me but I agree with Rob on this occasion.
 
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rob9872

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  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,390
PVA said:
Singing anti Muslim songs after a terror attack is nothing like singing the PM is a c**t, not remotely comparable

I'm not saying it should be encouraged, but if it reflects the general mood of the general public (which it does) then freedom of speech and all that, I wouldn't say it's bringing politics into football - like I say, someone in authority saying it would be though.
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You dont think it's comparable, I do. Politics like religion is not related to what you're watching.

Either way, you've gone to watch football so why not just support your team instead of pissing off a decent chunk of your own following?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,391
Why would somebody be pissed off that Boris Johnson is being called a c**t?
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,392
rob9872 said:
You dont think it's comparable, I do. Politics like religion is not related to what you're watching.

Either way, you've gone to watch football so why not just support your team instead of pissing off a decent chunk of your own following?
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It's only a very a small minority now that doesn't think BJ is a c**t
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,393
rob9872 said:
You dont think it's comparable, I do. Politics like religion is not related to what you're watching.

Either way, you've gone to watch football so why not just support your team instead of pissing off a decent chunk of your own following?
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I don't think it is remotely compatible. One is showing displeasure at a privileged man who is leading the country and is perfectly able to cope with being disliked by a proportion of the population. The other is targeting a minority who are disadvantaged and likely to suffer harassment.

Also one is illegal and the other isn't.
 
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rob9872

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  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,394
Nick said:
Why would somebody be pissed off that Boris Johnson is being called a c**t?
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In the same way a few at Huddersfield sang fk the Tories. It pissed me off for a start. I don't travel and spend my hard earned to hear our own chanting that and has fk all to do with watching City.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,395
rob9872 said:
In the same way a few at Huddersfield sang fk the Tories. It pissed me off for a start. I don't travel and spend my hard earned to hear our own chanting that and has fk all to do with watching City.
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People take politics too seriously. MPs are all cunts though.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,396
clint van damme said:
Pretty much agree with what Rob said in his initial post.
It's not something that overly bothers me but I agree with Rob on this occasion.
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I agree. It just feels/looks a bit weird at the football. Think they should be venting their anger at their team and manager after recent performances. Arsenal could’ve had a shedload yesterday
 
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JAM See

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  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,397
rob9872 said:
Really really disagree with this so strongly and not because of who it is, I'd be the same if it was Starmer or previously Corbyn. Whatever we do or don't think of them, politics has no place in football.

Especially at a time when we're trying to eradicate divisiveness based on race, religion, gender or sexual preference, adding politics to the mix brings a whole new level of hatred and is unnecessary and unacceptable. Support your team.
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Couldn't disagree with your argument more.

Broad generalisation against people because of their race, religion, gender or sexual preference is obviously wrong.

Having a go at a specific person when they are in a position of power (and being perceived to abuse said power) is fine in my book.

The former is punching down, the latter is punching up and I'm okay with that.
 
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FulltimeWum

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,398
JAM See said:
Couldn't disagree with your argument more.

Broad generalisation against people because of their race, religion, gender or sexual preference is obviously wrong.

Having a go at a specific person when they are in a position of power (and being perceived to abuse said power) is fine in my book.

The former is punching down, the latter is punching up and I'm okay with that.
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JAM See said:
If you don't vote you are a c**t.



There, I said it.



True fact that.
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You can call whoever you wish whatever you wish as you are special.
 
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rob9872

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  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,399
JAM See said:
Couldn't disagree with your argument more.

Broad generalisation against people because of their race, religion, gender or sexual preference is obviously wrong.

Having a go at a specific person when they are in a position of power (and being perceived to abuse said power) is fine in my book.

The former is punching down, the latter is punching up and I'm okay with that.
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You couldn't have missed the point more. It's not about Boris, nor the merits of him or not but the wider aspect of bringing politics to a football game. It has no place.
 

JAM See

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  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,400
FulltimeWum said:
You can call whoever you wish whatever you wish as you are special.
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Thank you very much. Not enough people acknowledge my genius.

You're obviously a good judge of character.

Chapeau.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,401
rob9872 said:
You're only saying that because you agree with them. Take a step back, as I've said in my edit, it's divisive. You'd agree I'd hope if it was on race or religion etc and wouldn't dismiss it as ok down the pub. It has no place in football.
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There is nothing divisive about it at all, the division between people who voted for the Tories and who didn't is already there and doesn't cause any problems. People can sing about him if they want to.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,402
He is a c**t. Just ask any of his ex wives, mistresses, girlfriends, children he has nothing to do with, children that will have nothing to do with him.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,403
rob9872 said:
You dont think it's comparable, I do. Politics like religion is not related to what you're watching.

Either way, you've gone to watch football so why not just support your team instead of pissing off a decent chunk of your own following?
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Snowflake
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,404
rob9872 said:
In the same way a few at Huddersfield sang fk the Tories. It pissed me off for a start. I don't travel and spend my hard earned to hear our own chanting that and has fk all to do with watching City.
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Snowflake
 
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JAM See

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,405
rob9872 said:
You couldn't have missed the point more. It's not about Boris, nor the merits of him or not but the wider aspect of bringing politics to a football game. It has no place.
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I've met your type before.

Next you'll be calling for the players to not wear poppies to remember our brave boys every November.

Because politics has no place in sport.

Puerile.
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,406
FulltimeWum said:
You can call whoever you wish whatever you wish as you are special.
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Talking to yourself is the first sign of madness
 

JAM See

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  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,407
Grendel said:
Talking to yourself is the first sign of madness
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Yawn.
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,408
Number 10 spokesman last week: There was no social event at number 10 on 15th May

This week: photographic evidence of social event, including the PM

Why oh why do they keep denying it. So fucking stupid.

Actual photographic evidence of the Prime Minister breaking his own rules

 

rob9872

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  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,409
JAM See said:
I've met your type before.

Next you'll be calling for the players to not wear poppies to remember our brave boys every November.

Because politics has no place in sport.

Puerile.
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Do fk off you wum
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,410
rob9872 said:
Do fk off you wum
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Appropriate
 

JAM See

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  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,411
rob9872 said:
Do fk off you wum
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Sparkling wit and repartee. Lovely.

Are you available for parties?
 

rob9872

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  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,412
fernandopartridge said:
Snowflake
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Thanks sweetie
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,413
JAM See said:
Sparkling wit and repartee. Lovely.

Are you available for parties?
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I do admire multi tasking - logging into multi accounts must be taxing - though COV seems to have stopped now
 

JAM See

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,414
Grendel said:
I do admire multi tasking - logging into multi accounts must be taxing - though COV seems to have stopped now
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Yawn.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 19, 2021
  • #9,415
Chant at Leeds v Arsenal causes forum kick off- never change SBT!
 
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