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Grendel

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,311
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The SNP idea is even more laughable
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Well the SNP would demand a vote for independence- to be fair the Tories would be as likely then I guess
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,312
Grendel said:
Well the SNP would demand a vote for independence- to be fair the Tories would be as likely then I guess
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Getting into any kind of coalition or agreement with an anti UK party should be off the table in all circumstances
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,313
 

JAM See

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,314
skybluetony176 said:
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Boris Johnson:

"It will be a full and fair investigation your honour. I rest my Case"

This has gone beyond farce now.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,315
Anyway remember when chuckles tried to tell us no one cared about parties?
 

stupot07

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,316

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Grendel

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,317
stupot07 said:

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Has to be true if Dickie says so
 

stupot07

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,318
Grendel said:
Has to be true if Dickie says so
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He is repeating what the FT is saying.

Rishi Sunak cuts short US trip to tackle Covid crisis in UK hospitality

Pub and hotel bosses express frustration over chancellor missing online roundtable meeting with them
www.ft.com

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Finham

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,319
David O'Day said:
Not really that good as it ignores the effect the change of leadership will have on the 2019 tory vote.

I'm sorry but I just can't see Sunak or Truss etc. having the same pull for former labour voters in the northern "redwall" seats
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Truss, now there's a thought to send a shiver down the spine. And we'd thought we'd had our "Trump Candidate" already!
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #9,320
So apparently Case told Johnson he'd been at a party himself, yet De Pfeffel still told him to lead the investigation. The mind boggles.
 
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BodicoteSkyBlue

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  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #9,321
Boris is a dead man walking, gone by Easter I reckon.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #9,322
PVA said:
So apparently Case told Johnson he'd been at a party himself, yet De Pfeffel still told him to lead the investigation. The mind boggles.
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Crazy decision. I’m not sure all of these are what I’d call ‘parties’ though
 

stupot07

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  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #9,323
PVA said:
So apparently Case told Johnson he'd been at a party himself, yet De Pfeffel still told him to lead the investigation. The mind boggles.
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Apparently the the new investigator whilst well respected is well know to be good at burying things you don't want to come out.

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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #9,324
At this stage I’m past the point of caring. They’ve had the negative political impact which is well deserved but do we really want people (and potentially police) wasting their time, cost and everyone’s focus on this unless there had been some big old rave (rather than team gatherings after work)
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #9,325
CCFCSteve said:
At this stage I’m past the point of caring. They’ve had the negative political impact which is well deserved but do we really want people (and potentially police) wasting their time, cost and everyone’s focus on this unless there had been some big old rave (rather than team gatherings after work)
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Considering there are currently members of the public being prosecuted, with some receiving fines of 10k, then yes, the police should pursue these tossers in the same way.

Either that or drop all current cases and refund anyone who's been fined.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #9,326
clint van damme said:
Considering there are currently members of the public being prosecuted, with some receiving fines of 10k, then yes, the police should pursue these tossers in the same way.

Either that or drop all current cases and refund anyone who's been fined.
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Agree, if there are people being prosecuted for similar things. I’ve never agreed with the level of action/penalties anyway though.
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #9,327
CCFCSteve said:
At this stage I’m past the point of caring. They’ve had the negative political impact which is well deserved but do we really want people (and potentially police) wasting their time, cost and everyone’s focus on this unless there had been some big old rave (rather than team gatherings after work)
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Yes as it was a crime other people are in court for
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #9,328
CCFCSteve said:
At this stage I’m past the point of caring. They’ve had the negative political impact which is well deserved but do we really want people (and potentially police) wasting their time, cost and everyone’s focus on this unless there had been some big old rave (rather than team gatherings after work)
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In other words let them get away with things the average person was getting not inconsiderable fines for last year.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #9,329
David O'Day said:
Yes as it was a crime other people are in court for
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From investigations a year ago ?! I’m not defending what happened, it’s pretty indefensible but I just think theres better use of resources especially in current climate.

Do I think police would've entered workplaces and fined/arrested people for after work gatherings/Xmas quizzes last year ? No. Do I think the police would investigate any suggested breaches of rules from a year ago if I rang them up today ? They didn’t even bother to come to my house after two attempted burglaries so I doubt it very much.

Should ministerial teams and civil servants be held to higher levels of judgement/criticism as they put in place OTT rules and penalties, on a moral level, yes. But that’s not what we’re talking about
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #9,330
You know there’s still more to come out on this.

Allegedly there’s also more on the ITV tape about other skeletons in the cupboard that the media has been reluctant (until now) to report.

Next few weeks could be interesting if true.
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #9,331
The Met have said they will investigate the Shaun Bailey party, but not some of the others.

There's no consistency.

The Met are bent as fuck.

Johnson and Dick, what a pair of knobs.
 

chiefdave

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  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #9,332
CCFCSteve said:
From investigations a year ago ?! I’m not defending what happened, it’s pretty indefensible but I just think theres better use of resources especially in current climate.
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I think there's a question to be answered about why nothing was done at the time even if they don't take action now. There's police on the door and everyone going in and out is logged so the police claiming there's no evidence and they had no idea it was going on is laughable.

Not to mention there were reports yesterday that at one of the parties they tripped an alarm which caused a further police presence.
 

chiefdave

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  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #9,333
BodicoteSkyBlue said:
Boris is a dead man walking, gone by Easter I reckon.
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They'll try and keep him until covid is sorted then get rid I reckon. Then blame every covid / brexit issue on him as if nobody else in the party was around when it was all taking place.
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #9,334
chiefdave said:
They'll try and keep him until covid is sorted then get rid I reckon. Then blame every covid / brexit issue on him as if nobody else in the party was around when it was all taking place.
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Yes and it'll probably work unfortunately.

The only thing is none of the contenders can win votes like Johnson can (/did).
 

SBAndy

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  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #9,335
chiefdave said:
They'll try and keep him until covid is sorted then get rid I reckon. Then blame every covid / brexit issue on him as if nobody else in the party was around when it was all taking place.
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Just like when Johnson was campaigning about what the Tories would do in government and how they needed to repair the country…ignoring the fact the Tories had been in power for 10 years.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #9,336
SBAndy said:
Just like when Johnson was campaigning about what the Tories would do in government and how they needed to repair the country…ignoring the fact the Tories had been in power for 10 years.
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Heard one pollster being interviewed who said their data showed this was a hugely successful tactic for the Conservatives in the last election so they are certain to repeat it.
 

oakey

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  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #9,337
chiefdave said:
Heard one pollster being interviewed who said their data showed this was a hugely successful tactic for the Conservatives in the last election so they are certain to repeat it.
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It's a brilliant double, which the tories and supporting newspapers relentlessly push - Blame + Trust
Blame - foreigners, EU, welfare scroungers, Labour overspend/waste your money WE ARE NOT TO BLAME
Trust - only tories are patriotic, will lower taxes and cut back wasteful public sector, TRUST US
Sadly it works on enough voters to win under FPTP
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #9,338
chiefdave said:
Heard one pollster being interviewed who said their data showed this was a hugely successful tactic for the Conservatives in the last election so they are certain to repeat it.
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Yeah, bizarrely and not sure how but he managed to successfully distance himself from previous governments and suggested reversing decisions and actions those governments took. He won’t be able to do it again...but a new leader might try !
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #9,339
FFS

Absolute state of these idiots


'Weak' opposition responsible for govt slip in standards, Tory MP confesses

This Conservative MP suggests an ineffective opposition has led the government to believe they can do what they want unchallenged.
www.lbc.co.uk
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #9,340
PVA said:
FFS

Absolute state of these idiots


'Weak' opposition responsible for govt slip in standards, Tory MP confesses

This Conservative MP suggests an ineffective opposition has led the government to believe they can do what they want unchallenged.
www.lbc.co.uk
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Ahhh! The opposition. The new bogey man to blame on the failures of the sitting government.
 

JAM See

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #9,341
Frosty the Go-Man.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #9,342
oh dear…

 

JAM See

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #9,343
He did a shit job over the NI protocol.

He knew he'd done a shit job over the NI protocol.

He's resigned, stating concerns over Covid regulations.

What a complete coward.

Shameful.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #9,344
Another pro EU merchant who jumped on the Brexit bandwagon and made a complete c**t of it.
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 18, 2021
  • #9,345
What a fucking clown Frost is.

Done all sorts of damage and then jumps the sinking ship like all the rats do.
 
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