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Nick

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,276
stupot07 said:
I've noticed she's got better at raisin important issues in parliament

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Shame those issues are never currant.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,277
stupot07 said:
I've noticed she's got better at raisin important issues in parliament

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Good at currant affairs though
 
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chiefdave

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,278
shmmeee said:
Yeah I can’t stand Sultana but she’s improved as she’s gone on so I’d hope she’s hit her bottom. I’d still rather she was replaced mind you. Absolute fruitcake.
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To be fair she is very visible in the community. I don't think I saw Cunningham once, or any previous MP in other places I've lived for that matter, yet Sultana has knocked on more door several times to see if there's any issues I want to bring up.

My Mum is a life long Conservative voter and thinks Sultana is the best MP she's ever had so just goes to show these things are never straightforward.
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,279
chiefdave said:
To be fair she is very visible in the community. I don't think I saw Cunningham once, or any previous MP in other places I've lived for that matter, yet Sultana has knocked on more door several times to see if there's any issues I want to bring up.

My Mum is a life long Conservative voter and thinks Sultana is the best MP she's ever had so just goes to show these things are never straightforward.
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Found her very standoffish and cliquey when she came to a CLP meeting o was at. And generally don’t like her tone in Parliament, all a bit performative, but she’s toned it down from her first few months. Still a fucking Liverpool fan born in Brum and representing Cov though. Can’t get past that.
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,280
chiefdave said:
To be fair she is very visible in the community. I don't think I saw Cunningham once, or any previous MP in other places I've lived for that matter, yet Sultana has knocked on more door several times to see if there's any issues I want to bring up.

My Mum is a life long Conservative voter and thinks Sultana is the best MP she's ever had so just goes to show these things are never straightforward.
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Yeah you only ever really saw Cunningham at election time but he was fucking brilliant on the doorstep though
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,281
Good thread on why Labour shouldn’t get excited:

 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,282
shmmeee said:
Found her very standoffish and cliquey when she came to a CLP meeting o was at. And generally don’t like her tone in Parliament, all a bit performative, but she’s toned it down from her first few months. Still a fucking Liverpool fan born in Brum and representing Cov though. Can’t get past that.
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Maybe voters don't really care about tone and parliamentary language
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,283
fernandopartridge said:
Maybe voters don't really care about tone and parliamentary language
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I'd be pleasantly surprised if most normal voters even see must speeches in parliament
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,284
fernandopartridge said:
Maybe voters don't really care about tone and parliamentary language
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They probably don’t. And what I think doesn’t matter as I’m not in her constituency any more. But I got the impression when I was she wasn’t particularly popular.
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,285
shmmeee said:
Good thread on why Labour shouldn’t get excited:

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Not really that good as it ignores the effect the change of leadership will have on the 2019 tory vote.

I'm sorry but I just can't see Sunak or Truss etc. having the same pull for former labour voters in the northern "redwall" seats
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,286
David O'Day said:
Not really that good as it ignores the effect the change of leadership will have on the 2019 tory vote.

I'm sorry but I just can't see Sunak or Truss etc. having the same pull for former labour voters in the northern "redwall" seats
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Has the perception of Labour in these areas changed enough from being the party of students and cosmopolitan London?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,287
fernandopartridge said:
All the n Shropshire vote shows is that in a free hit protest vote Tories are prepared to vote Lib Dem to send a message. It'll be a Tory seat again in 2024.
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That's my take on it. huge Tory majority in government so doesn't matter and they can show a bit of dissatisfaction. next GE it will go back to the Tories.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,288
David O'Day said:
Not really that good as it ignores the effect the change of leadership will have on the 2019 tory vote.

I'm sorry but I just can't see Sunak or Truss etc. having the same pull for former labour voters in the northern "redwall" seats
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Sunak is local to the area around many of those seats, mind. Granted, his has been as safe Tory as it's possible to be, but still.

Don't discount the ability of the Conservative Party to reinvent themselves either, the new leader bounce, and the perception of renewed competence could be worth a fair amount.
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,289
Deleted member 5849 said:
Sunak is local to the area around many of those seats, mind. Granted, his has been as safe Tory as it's possible to be, but still.

Don't discount the ability of the Conservative Party to reinvent themselves either, the new leader bounce, and the perception of renewed competence could be worth a fair amount.
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Yeah but there is a massive difference between Richmond and Bishop Auckland.

I don't see anyway that a more "traditional tory" tory party has the same appeal in Blyth as Johnson
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,290
David O'Day said:
I don't see anyway that a more "traditional tory" tory party has the same appeal in Blyth as Johnson
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Can be offset by renewed confidence in them in the south, however, and picking up a couple of Scottish seats from disenfranchised SNP haters. It may very well not be as large a majority as now, but it would be seismic for them to lose their majority in entirety.

Wonder if there are any parties still ready and willing to support them in a coalition...?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,291
David O'Day said:
Yeah but there is a massive difference between Richmond and Bishop Auckland.

I don't see anyway that a more "traditional tory" tory party has the same appeal in Blyth as Johnson
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Maybe but the duck has been broken with these people now. You must have seen that interview with people in Hartlepool who were voting Tory because they blamed Labour for the local police station and A&E being cut. How do you deal with that?
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,292
fernandopartridge said:
Maybe but the duck has been broken with these people now. You must have seen that interview with people in Hartlepool who were voting Tory because they blamed Labour for the local police station and A&E being cut. How do you deal with that?
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Yes but they are the idiot outliers.

Most people aren't like that but aren't a great story.
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,293
Deleted member 5849 said:
Can be offset by renewed confidence in them in the south, however, and picking up a couple of Scottish seats from disenfranchised SNP haters. It may very well not be as large a majority as now, but it would be seismic for them to lose their majority in entirety.

Wonder if there are any parties still ready and willing to support them in a coalition...?
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Can be which why the anyone but tory tactical voting would be important as there are also a lot of tory lib dem marginals in the south.

No one should be crownig Labour now but there are now for the first time green shoots and a path now
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,294
Being reported that the man Boris has put in charge of investigating last year’s Xmas party hosted an Xmas party himself in his office.

In other news Boris thinks that they lost the by election because the press are reporting on everything they do not just the things Boris wants them to report.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,295
David O'Day said:
Can be which why the anyone but tory tactical voting would be important as there are also a lot of tory lib dem marginals in the south.

No one should be crownig Labour now but there are now for the first time green shoots and a path now
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QT was interesting last night. The Tory representative was getting dogs of abuse from the Stoke on Trent audience, especially when he started talking about the “levelling up” funds being made to the area and suggesting that their 3 new Tory MP’s are doing a terrific job for them. Lisa Nandy in contrast got a good response to pretty much everything she said, especially when slating the Tories. If QT was anything to go by Stoke has buyers remorse at electing Tory MP’s.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,296
skybluetony176 said:
Being reported that the man Boris has put in charge of investigating last year’s Xmas party hosted an Xmas party himself in his office.

In other news Boris thinks that they lost the by election because the press are reporting on everything they do not just the things Boris wants them to report.
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Not a million miles away from what I predicted!
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,297
clint van damme said:
Not a million miles away from what I predicted!
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One guy in the audience who claimed to not be a labour voter had him good on levelling up. I think Stoke has £54M or there abouts in levelling up fund, he pointed out that cross rail has a budget of £19B and challenged him to throw those sort of budgets at areas like Stoke and see how much they can achieve. Transport and connectivity in the region (apparently Stoke on Trent is 3 separate towns) seems to be a hot topic in Stoke and all the Tory could muster was the re-opening of a leisure centre that had closed under Tory austerity cuts as levelling up.
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,298
skybluetony176 said:
QT was interesting last night. The Tory representative was getting dogs of abuse from the Stoke on Trent audience, especially when he started talking about the “levelling up” funds being made to the area and suggesting that their 3 new Tory MP’s are doing a terrific job for them. Lisa Nandy in contrast got a good response to pretty much everything she said, especially when slating the Tories. If QT was anything to go by Stoke has buyers remorse at electing Tory MP’s.
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Nandy was a great move to her new role. Yes it is technically a demotion my she is ina role where she will be much more visible to the people Labour need to win back.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 17, 2021
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David O'Day

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,300
skybluetony176 said:
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He's fucked now and he knows it. Proper spoilt kid at xmas vibes at the end from him.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,301
I don't mean to sound overly patronising (or maybe I do!) but... should we be worried about his health?!?


He's never been overly dapper but, my word.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,302
Deleted member 5849 said:
I don't mean to sound overly patronising (or maybe I do!) but... should we be worried about his health?!?


He's never been overly dapper but, my word.
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He’s trying to look more like a clown to distract people. Will turn into Pennywise by NYE
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,303
He's balding massively and keeps his hair longer these days, so he ends up with... that.

Imagine looking at that and thinking 'yeah that's the guy I want leading my country'
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,304
Deleted member 5849 said:
I don't mean to sound overly patronising (or maybe I do!) but... should we be worried about his health?!?


He's never been overly dapper but, my word.
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It’s a distraction. The more atrocious he behaves the worse he has to look to distract from the bad news.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,305
CON -4%
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,306

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Deleted member 9744

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  • Dec 17, 2021
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Deleted member 5849 said:
I don't mean to sound overly patronising (or maybe I do!) but... should we be worried about his health?!?


He's never been overly dapper but, my word.
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How he looks is the least of our worries. It's what he does or fails to do that the problem.
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 17, 2021
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PVA

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,309
Stupid fucking idiots


 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,310
18m ago18:11

Yet more difficult news for the prime minister. The Times has this:
The new head of the charity watchdog quit today before officially taking up his post after The Times uncovered how “inappropriate behaviour” led to his resignation from an aid agency.
Martin Thomas, 58, a friend of Boris Johnson, was confirmed as chairman of the Charity Commission last week by the culture secretary Nadine Dorries.
He was due to begin work on December 27 but stepped down after The Times raised questions about his appointment in the wake of his role in a bullying investigation this year when he was chairman of Women For Women International UK.
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