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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (14 Viewers)

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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,206
wingy said:
Well well well,Shropshire.

34% swing.
Labour under 4k
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Is that good?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,207
David O'Day said:
The Labour vote doesn't really matter as it shows he official progressive alliance/vote for the party most likely to beat the tories is working.

the knives are going to get even sharper for the PM
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Lol
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,208
All the n Shropshire vote shows is that in a free hit protest vote Tories are prepared to vote Lib Dem to send a message. It'll be a Tory seat again in 2024.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,209
fernandopartridge said:
All the n Shropshire vote shows is that in a free hit protest vote Tories are prepared to vote Lib Dem to send a message. It'll be a Tory seat again in 2024.
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100% the only downside is we have a gurning Ed Davy for a few days coming out with every cliche under the sun
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,210
fernandopartridge said:
Lol
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That is the exact same reaction I keep having at the absolute drivel you have been coming out with.

So swings and roundabouts
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,211
fernandopartridge said:
All the n Shropshire vote shows is that in a free hit protest vote Tories are prepared to vote Lib Dem to send a message. It'll be a Tory seat again in 2024.
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Lol
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,212
clint van damme said:
A least he's got some morals, unlike most of the others.
If this enquiry into Hardings appointment finds that laws were broken I wonder if any one will fall on their sword?

The way things are going Johnson may already be impaled by then.
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If any of them had a moral sense of duty they wouldn’t be waiting until they got caught to step down.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,213
Grendel said:
100% the only downside is we have a gurning Ed Davy for a few days coming out with every cliche under the sun
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At least it’s got him off his yoga mat for a bit
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,214
Brighton Sky Blue said:
At least it’s got him off his yoga mat for a bit
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He’s got COVID so at least he’s not in every TV studio but still “it’s a watershed moment in British politics”

ok Ed
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,215
It's not a protest vote

It's a catastrophic defeat in a seat that's been blue for 200 years ffs
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,216
Both in-laws are in that constituency as it goes, both voted Lib Dem for the first time ever and are usually bread and butter Tories. They’ll probably switch back in a few years
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,217
David O'Day said:
That is the exact same reaction I keep having at the absolute drivel you have been coming out with.

So swings and roundabouts
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Ok Dave, don't be upset mate
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,218
Grendel said:
He’s got COVID so at least he’s not in every TV studio but still “it’s a watershed moment in British politics”

ok Ed
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He’s trying to cure it with green tea the last I heard
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,219
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Both in-laws are in that constituency as it goes, both voted Lib Dem for the first time ever and are usually bread and butter Tories. They’ll probably switch back in a few years
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Have they not heard about the progressive alliance then?
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,220
Why did Labour select a candidate who looks like a spitting image puppet of Ed Milliband as a schoolboy?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,221
fernandopartridge said:
Have they not heard about the progressive alliance then?
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They don’t give a toss about that, just wanted to flip off Boris. Their words
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,222
Deserved result for the Tories, after the arrogance shown by Paterson and then subsequently Johnson, in particular in relation to Paterson.
 

Ian1779

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,223
Grendel said:
Why did Labour select a candidate who looks like a spitting image puppet of Ed Milliband as a schoolboy?
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And one that used to work for Owen Paterson to boot.
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,224
fernandopartridge said:
Ok Dave, don't be upset mate
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I'm really quite happy but if you want to play for likes off the weirdo squad then so be it
 
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David O'Day

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,225

ummmm
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,226
David O'Day said:

ummmm
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But lads there was no progressive alliance/anyone but the tories voting
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,227
anyway while North Shropshire may turn Tory again there are a lot more a lot closer seats that are now at risk for the tories (and Sheffield Hallam)
 

JAM See

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,228
David O'Day said:

ummmm
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The problem is this.

In the past I would probably have held my nose and voted Lib Dem/SDP/Liberal party (showing my age here) if it meant defeating an incumbent Tory.

Then Nick Clegg got into bed with David Cameron in 2010.

I don't trust the fuckers anymore.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,229
JAM See said:
The problem is this.

In the past I would probably have held my nose and voted Lib Dem/SDP/Liberal party (showing my age here) if it meant defeating an incumbent Tory.

Then Nick Clegg got into bed with David Cameron in 2010.

I don't trust the fuckers anymore.
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That is an issue for a lot of people
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,230
Progressive alliance is a load of cringey nonsense. If Labour have aspirations to run a country they need to encourage people to vote for them, not for the Lib Dums.

Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
 
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Moff

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,231
David O'Day said:
But lads there was no progressive alliance/anyone but the tories voting
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the only problem with that is getting people to collectively work together at a general election.
It’s easier in a by election, but when a general election comes around people often become more tribal again.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,232
JAM See said:
The problem is this.

In the past I would probably have held my nose and voted Lib Dem/SDP/Liberal party (showing my age here) if it meant defeating an incumbent Tory.

Then Nick Clegg got into bed with David Cameron in 2010.

I don't trust the fuckers anymore.
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That pretty much sums up my position as well. I've never been a vote for a particular party no matter what person, I've always looked at what policies they are pushing at each election and voted accordingly but what Clegg did in 2010 means there's no chance they'll get my vote.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,233
Grendel said:
Why did Labour select a candidate who looks like a spitting image puppet of Ed Milliband as a schoolboy?
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Because they knew they had zero chance of winning probably.

Why did the Tories put up a candidate who didn't even know where in the country he was running?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,234
TomRad85 said:
Progressive alliance is a load of cringey nonsense. If Labour have aspirations to run a country they need to encourage people to vote for them, not for the Lib Dums.

Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
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Cringey or not its the best way for Labour to get in power.

They won't win if they battle against Lib Dems in tight constituencies.

Thankfully people finally seem to be seeing sense and realise that the best way to get the Tories out is for the majority of the country who don't want a tory government to work together, not against each other.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,235
David O'Day said:

ummmm
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Ed Davey played down the idea when he was interviewed on the radio earlier.
 

jordan210

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,236
Dont think labours campaign leaflet worked haha

 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,237
David O'Day said:
My comments would be you are 100% wrong and predicting a 100% turnout?
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Should have said "a proportion of the residual 53%" in case someone might have taken it literally just to be obtuse.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,238
jordan210 said:
Dont think labours campaign leaflet worked haha

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That’s the one - sack the clown that made it.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,239
David O'Day said:
But lads there was no progressive alliance/anyone but the tories voting
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What swung it wasn’t a thousand Labour votes going the other way but an enormous number of pissed off Tories.
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #9,240
PVA said:
Cringey or not its the best way for Labour to get in power.

They won't win if they battle against Lib Dems in tight constituencies.

Thankfully people finally seem to be seeing sense and realise that the best way to get the Tories out is for the majority of the country who don't want a tory government to work together, not against each other.
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"People" in ONE constituency out of 650.
 
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