skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
I think he actually might be a worse human being than Boris
The public will really remember this oneBig Tory rebellion today.
Labour could vote against the government and inflict an embarrassing defeat on the Prime Minister but thankfully they are above playing party politics at the expense of public health.
The public will really remember this one
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They won't. But that's the whole point.
They certainly would remember if Labour voted against it and thousands of people start dying in a few weeks.
I don't know why you're so keen for Labour to vote against life saving measures. It would be disastrous for them.
The Tories are eating themselves alive at the minute. Labour don't need to do much other than sit back and watch the carnage unfold. Voting against this is just not an option
I don’t know why you wouldn’t want Labour to use this rebellion to secure financial protection for the people that will be adversely affected by having to adhere to these measures. It’s all very well Labour supporting the government (which I get why they should) but they should also be fighting for the rights of the people that get the worst of any restrictions.They won't. But that's the whole point.
They certainly would remember if Labour voted against it and thousands of people start dying in a few weeks.
I don't know why you're so keen for Labour to vote against life saving measures. It would be disastrous for them.
The Tories are eating themselves alive at the minute. Labour don't need to do much other than sit back and watch the carnage unfold. Voting against this is just not an option
I don’t know why you wouldn’t want Labour to use this rebellion to secure financial protection for the people that will be adversely affected by having to adhere to these measures. It’s all very well Labour supporting the government (which I get why they should) but they should also be fighting for the rights of the people that get the worst of any restrictions.
That’s not party politicking - that’s serving the very people you want to represent and lead.
Exactly, it would be a massive trap to fall into and morally reprehensible in my view as it would delay impirtant measures to protect the public. Johnson looks even weaker this way as he is only getting the measures through because of Labour's sensible approach.I don't think they'd get anything though. I wouldn't put it past the government to let the vote be lost and then using they press they can start to tell the public who support the measures that Labour stopped them.
I’m not sure that Labour supporting the measures makes Johnson look weaker at all - and there is no way that assertion will play out in the media.Exactly, it would be a massive trap to fall into and morally reprehensible in my view as it would delay impirtant measures to protect the public. Johnson looks even weaker this way as he is only getting the measures through because of Labour's sensible approach.
I’m not sure that Labour supporting the measures makes Johnson look weaker at all - and there is no way that assertion will play out in the media.
An opportunity to try to a) maximise compliance with financial support where appropriate and b) look like a party with not just a plan but supporting mechanisms to boot has been lost IMO.
They should despite what I’ve said still back the measures.
Ultimately you may well be right - but where is the harm in asking, and then shouting from the rooftops that the Government don’t give a fuck about supporting people that are asked to comply?they would not give anything like that though
Not with a chancellor who is kicking off about the cost of the booster program
Sunak warns over multibillion cost of booster programme
Exclusive: Chancellor said to not have opposed jab regime but warned of spending cuts or tax rises to pay for itwww.theguardian.com
I'm not asking them to vote against anything, they are in a position where they might be able to secure concessions to make the restrictions more manageable for ordinary people and ultimately more effective.They won't. But that's the whole point.
They certainly would remember if Labour voted against it and thousands of people start dying in a few weeks.
I don't know why you're so keen for Labour to vote against life saving measures. It would be disastrous for them.
The Tories are eating themselves alive at the minute. Labour don't need to do much other than sit back and watch the carnage unfold. Voting against this is just not an option
Everybody stick a fork in him apart from the opposition101 Tory rebels apparently. Ouch. Stick a fork in Johnson.
Everybody stick a fork in him apart from the opposition
Everybody stick a fork in him apart from the opposition
The Human Rights Act thing is really concerning. Aligning with Belarus rather than the EU.Also the government have revealed their reforms to the Human Rights Act today and its not gone down well, as I'm sure you can all imagine.
More movements towards trying to make themselves untouchable.
Why bother - he’s an idiot
they would not give anything like that though
Not with a chancellor who is kicking off about the cost of the booster program
Sunak warns over multibillion cost of booster programme
Exclusive: Chancellor said to not have opposed jab regime but warned of spending cuts or tax rises to pay for itwww.theguardian.com
Yeah you get to be Director of Public Prosecutions easily by being an idiot whereas you need to be really intelligent to write stupid populist nonsense in right wing newspapers.Why bother - he’s an idiot
Did an alarm alert police to a Downing Street Christmas party? | ITV News
The revelation raises questions about how much security staff and police knew about the event at the time. | ITV National Newswww.itv.com
Yeah you get to be Director of Public Prosecutions easily by being an idiot whereas you need to be really intelligent to write stupid populist nonsense in right wing newspapers.
Good job the shadow chancellor goes right along with the all "taxpayer's money" nonsense then isn't it, makes it much easier to oppose this sort of thing.
I was referring to PVA
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Oh dear,is that that wank Shaun Bailey, who's always banging on about law and order?
What a hypocrite.
14 December last year when we were all on lockdownAssuming that picture does show what they say it does, how fucking stupid would you have to be to have a picture taken of all of you knowing that the country is under restrictions?
Good job the shadow chancellor goes right along with the all "taxpayer's money" nonsense then isn't it, makes it much easier to oppose this sort of thing.
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