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PVA

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,066
Grendel said:
His whacking majority mainly came because the clueless idiots in labour denied the public a general election

Their strategy is always a disaster. Who votes for a party who itself doesn’t think it’s capable of government?

Now all starmer cares about is a party with some games and forensically crawling through if the police should investigate - he’s an idiot and now is ensuring the legislation goes through next week despite he saying he doesn’t agree with it and 80 Tories going against it as their constituents don’t want it
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Imagine the PM breaks the law and you're more concerned about the LOTO holding him to account than the actual law breaking.

Good grief.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,067
Marty said:
I don't have a hat in either party, I don't believe a word politician's say. Labour and tory are different sides of the same coin.

Furthermore, I knew the newspapers have agendas, and tried to push their side but I believed it was based on truth, but the outright lies they continue to push of a certain case has opened my eyes to them too.

We deserve so much better then we have.
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There are some wonderful public servants but I agree with the last sentence
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,068
Sky Blue Pete said:
There are some wonderful public servants but I agree with the last sentence
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No you get what you deserve
 
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chiefdave

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,069
PVA said:
Good example of Tory double standards.

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Baker was on Marr this morning. Doing his best to make the Conservative & Labour front benches look like they're full of geniuses. The talent pool in parliament is astonishingly poor.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,070
Grendel said:
His whacking majority mainly came because the clueless idiots in labour denied the public a general election

Their strategy is always a disaster. Who votes for a party who itself doesn’t think it’s capable of government?

Now all starmer cares about is a party with some games and forensically crawling through if the police should investigate - he’s an idiot and now is ensuring the legislation goes through next week despite he saying he doesn’t agree with it and 80 Tories going against it as their constituents don’t want it
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He got it because Corbyn agreed to something stacked in the government’s favour when he didn’t have to. Then ‘Get Brexit Done’ apparently overrides a decade of incompetence and cuts and was heavily rewarded by a part of the country the Tories laid waste to in the 80s and disregarded in the 2010s.

Now these northern Tories have suddenly clocked on to him being a full of shit charlatan and the seats he helped con for them are precarious. They owe their positions to him and are pretty much tied to his fate
 
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shmmeee

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,071
skybluetony176 said:
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They’re curtains…
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,072
Brighton Sky Blue said:
He got it because Corbyn agreed to something stacked in the government’s favour when he didn’t have to. Then ‘Get Brexit Done’ apparently overrides a decade of incompetence and cuts and was heavily rewarded by a part of the country the Tories laid waste to in the 80s and disregarded in the 2010s.

Now these northern Tories have suddenly clocked on to him being a full of shit charlatan and the seats he helped con for them are precarious. They owe their positions to him and are pretty much tied to his fate
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No your analysis is wrong
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,073
shmmeee said:
They’re curtains…
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It'll be curtains for the Prime Minister soon more like! Lolololol
 

Sick Boy

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,074
It was a disgrace that Johnson was ever elected PM, none of what’s going on should be a surprise.
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,075
Sick Boy said:
It was a disgrace that Johnson was ever elected PM, none of what’s going on should be a surprise.
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Yeah I'm not sure what people thought would happen if you elect a disgraced journalist as PM because he got stuck on a zipline and has funny hair.

Tragically thousands of people died unnecessarily as a result.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,076
Grendel said:
No your analysis is wrong
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Ok well that’s me told
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,077
Sick Boy said:
It was a disgrace that Johnson was ever elected PM, none of what’s going on should be a surprise.
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There really isn’t for the average person much going on is there
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,078
Grendel said:
There really isn’t for the average person much going on is there
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Really?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,079
Grendel said:
There really isn’t for the average person much going on is there
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Disagree, while there’s worse going on from them at the moment, this is the sort of thing that resonates with the wider public.
 
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Marty

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,080
PVA said:
Yeah I'm not sure what people thought would happen if you elect a disgraced journalist as PM because he got stuck on a zipline and has funny hair.

Tragically thousands of people died unnecessarily as a result.
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It was a choice of a bumbling idiot or a terrorist sympathiser. Neither Johnson or Corbyn should have been anywhere leadership roles. Without being too deep into politics, I've always thought Andy Burnham has come across well when I've seen him speak.
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,081
Grendel said:
There really isn’t for the average person much going on is there
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Fucking hell
 

chiefdave

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,082
Marty said:
the outright lies they continue to push of a certain case has opened my eyes to them too.
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I might regret asking this but what case are you referring to?
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,083
Sick Boy said:
Disagree, while there’s worse going on from them at the moment, this is the sort of thing that resonates with the wider public.
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For a few days
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,084
Grendel said:
For a few days
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Again disagree, especially for those who have lost loved ones.
 

Marty

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,085
chiefdave said:
I might regret asking this but what case are you referring to?
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Kyle Rittenhouse, I followed the trial while I had nothing to do at work. What the media told us and the facts presented to the court aren't even close.
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,086
Marty said:
It was a choice of a bumbling idiot or a terrorist sympathiser. Neither Johnson or Corbyn should have been anywhere leadership roles. Without being too deep into politics, I've always thought Andy Burnham has come across well when I've seen him speak.
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I agree it was a dreadful choice.

It was choice between chopping your leg off or being kicked in the nuts. One of those is worse than the other.

I can't stand Corbyn. I didn't vote for Labour because I wanted Corbyn as PM, I voted for Labour because I didn't want Johnson as PM. I think I've been vindicated in that choice.

Not that it mattered, my constituency is a safe Tory seat.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,087
Marty said:
It was a choice of a bumbling idiot or a terrorist sympathiser. Neither Johnson or Corbyn should have been anywhere leadership roles. Without being too deep into politics, I've always thought Andy Burnham has come across well when I've seen him speak.
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I agree on that last point, but don't see how he'll become leader any time soon.
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,088
If anyone was present at the Downing street quiz they'r giving out the answers later this evening.

 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,089
clint van damme said:
If anyone was present at the Downing street quiz they'r giving out the answers later this evening.

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Surely he's just carrying out this year's quiz? I'm ready for the Spock question this time.
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,090
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Surely he's just carrying out this year's quiz? I'm ready for the Spock question this time.
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to elect a floppy haired lying fuckwitted opportunist to run your country, that is illogical.
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,091
Pre recorded, so no questions from journos. No new restrictions being announced so just a cowardly way of telling us how wonderful the vaccine rollout is to deflect away from the ongoing shit show. So transparent
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,092
PVA said:
Pre recorded, so no questions from journos. No new restrictions being announced so just a cowardly way of telling us how wonderful the vaccine rollout is to deflect away from the ongoing shit show. So transparent
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Thats what I thought when I saw 500k+ boosters administered yesterday. I’d imagine it will be that and re-enforcing need for people to get jabbed/boostered

Needs to align himself to positive news
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,093
Told us nothing. Pure attention seeking
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,094
Deleted member 9744 said:
Told us nothing. Pure attention seeking
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A million booster target a day is nothing - ok
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,095
Deleted member 9744 said:
Told us nothing. Pure attention seeking
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I do think it was at least partially political as PVA suggested earlier, however, there’s no harm reiterating the message...some people don’t appear to be able to make decisions for themselves unless there’s a tv briefing/statement to tell them what to do. Hopefully this will be the kick up the arse they needed
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,096
Deleted member 9744 said:
Told us nothing. Pure attention seeking
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Distraction

 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,097
skybluetony176 said:
Distraction

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The statement is not really going to distract for long though. Any other party info will come out in coming days and get plenty of coverage. Johnson will be praying for a successful increased Booster roll out and no further restrictions to at least salvage/secure some political goodwill

More party news, significant hospitalisations and further restrictions and he’ll be really struggling
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,098
CCFCSteve said:
The statement is not really going to distract for long though. Any other party info will come out in coming days and get plenty of coverage. Johnson will be praying for a successful increased Booster roll out and no further restrictions to at least salvage/secure some political goodwill

Party news, significant hospitalisations and further restrictions and he’ll be really struggling
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Cant see how 19 million jabs will be done in 18 days
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,099
Grendel said:
A million booster target a day is nothing - ok
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It's a target. Telling us does nothing. They just need to get on with it.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #9,100
Grendel said:
Cant see how 19 million jabs will be done in 18 days
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Nor me but either way programme will be ramped up and if hospitalisations can stay under control and no further restrictions are necessary (both big IFs !) it will be political points for government, or that’s what Johnson will be praying for…whether it was due to boosters or fact Omicron is just milder !
 
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