Ian1779
Well-Known Member
And what of it Captain Whataboutery? Are they posters on SBT?
And what of it Captain Whataboutery? Are they posters on SBT?Jeremy Corbyn, John McDonnell and Diane Abbott had character references read out in court didn’t they?
And what of it Captain Whataboutery? Are they posters on SBT?
Marty made a point (badly) that the people on this topic had buried the Claudia Webbe story which was bollocks.Im not sure what your point is. Marty made a point that’s correct and exposes hypocrisy- this person is a criminal isn’t she and the left of the Labour Party staunchly defend her as a decent honest person with integrity who stands up for women. That’s what they said isn’t it?
Marty made a point (badly) that the people on this topic had buried the Claudia Webbe story which was bollocks.
Then you’ve weighed in with some irrelevant whataboutery crap that has no connection to anything that was discussed.
Speaking of hypocrisy - still waiting for you to demonstrate where you called out convicted sex offender Charlie Elphicke on this board…. Interests of balance and all that.
The only people that gather round to defend sex offenders are the Tories (see also Jimmy Saville)I assume if Mr Elphicke was a labour MP and the left gathered round to defend them in the same way they have the odious Ms Webbe you’d be opposed and yet you seem to have not condemned their defence of Ms Webbe. Do you agree with their staunch defence of the acid chucker?
The only people that gather round to defend sex offenders are the Tories (see also Jimmy Saville)
As for Miss Webbe - who threatened to chuck acid of you wish to be pedantic, her political persuasion is irrelevant. It’s only you (as usual) trying to gain mileage out of it as a distraction.
As she’s a criminal which this person isn’t
Why don’t you post the character references on here, we can all have a look and then debate from there.with respect it’s you that’s distracting and not answering a question - do you think the character references are appropriate in a court of law from sitting MPs - I’ve asked 3 times - please answer
Why don’t you post the character references on here, we can all have a look and then debate from there.
Also, as you are no doubt aware - 4 MP’s gave character reference for the convicted sex offender Charlie Elphicke. Bob Stewart, Sir Robert Gale, Adam Holloway, Theresa Villiers as well as peer Lord Freud.
There were also a number of references for him from local Conservative Party councillors and members, business leaders from his local area. I’ve attached a link for your perusal.
https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/R-v-Charles-Elphicke-Character-References.pdf
And she was immediately kicked out of her party rather than her party trying to change the rules to get her off.
Classic Grendel, no answer when push comes to shove. No wonder you’re a Tory sycophant.Ian I’ve linked the references and asked you to discuss but you’ve decided not to and thrown Tory examples in
classic whatabotery
Labour also didn’t reinstate the whip like the Tories did with Elphicke only to have to withdraw it again when he was charged a year later.Why don’t you post the character references on here, we can all have a look and then debate from there.
Also, as you are no doubt aware - 4 MP’s gave character reference for the convicted sex offender Charlie Elphicke. Bob Stewart, Sir Robert Gale, Adam Holloway, Theresa Villiers as well as peer Lord Freud.
There were also a number of references for him from local Conservative Party councillors and members, business leaders from his local area. I’ve attached a link for your perusal.
https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/R-v-Charles-Elphicke-Character-References.pdf
Classic Grendel, no answer when push comes to shove. No wonder you’re a Tory sycophant.
With respect you should probably sit down as all the spin and deflection has probably made you dizzy.with respect I’ve asked you several times. As ever the left spit, snarl, insult and patronise. Then wonder why they are political nonentities
With respect you should probably sit down as all the spin and deflection has probably made you dizzy.
I assume if Mr Elphicke was a labour MP and the left gathered round to defend them in the same way they have the odious Ms Webbe you’d be opposed and yet you seem to have not condemned their defence of Ms Webbe. Do you agree with their staunch defence of the acid chucker?
He didn’t actually face a criminal prosecution- bizarre comparison
Classic deflection and whataboutery.
The facts are he wasn't Labour. He was a Tory. Who reinstated the whip after having previously removed it when the allegations came to light. After having it removed again he was then convicted and imprisoned.
Do you support that move to reinstate him or do you think your beloved Tories did something heinous in allowing a sex offender back in and thus showing staunch support for him?
No he was just corrupt. So something actually relevant to his role as an MP instead of just being a mental girlfriend.
You realise they’ve u-turned right? You’re out on your own defending this shite at this point.
the facts are dumbo the Webbe case was raised first and Ian changed the subject
he was tried and convicted so that’s process
I vote Tory as it gives me the lifestyle that suits me and my family and a labour government would personally disadvantage me so actually if you really want the brutal truth I don’t give a flying fuck about him the acid chucker or anyone else
I care about me the people whose jobs rely on me and my immediate family. No one else
the facts are dumbo the Webbe case was raised first and Ian changed the subject
he was tried and convicted so that’s process
I vote Tory as it gives me the lifestyle that suits me and my family and a labour government would personally disadvantage me so actually if you really want the brutal truth I don’t give a flying fuck about him the acid chucker or anyone else
I care about me the people whose jobs rely on me and my immediate family. No one else
no it wasn't. Marty raised it to try and deflect from the Patterson story being being discussed again after another change of heart from the world u turn champion. .
I care about me the people whose jobs rely on me and my immediate family. No one else
If this has been posted I apologise.
And there it is.
Classic Tory.
I'm alright Jack. Fuck everyone else.
Unless its enough disposable income to buy a Land Rover or Jaguar.He loves low living standards does Grendel. Hates disposable income.
I care about me the people whose jobs rely on me and my immediate family. No one else
Which person? You?As she’s a criminal which this person isn’t
Usual question for anyone of this mindset:
If walking down the street one day they, god forbid, see a child hit by a car, a woman assaulted by her partner or even an old dear struggling on some black ice would they ignore it simply because they weren't family?
In those immediate incidents sympathy is required. Tories are quite good at sympathy so would probably assist.Usual question for anyone of this mindset:
If walking down the street one day they, god forbid, see a child hit by a car, a woman assaulted by her partner or even an old dear struggling on some black ice would they ignore it simply because they weren't family?
Usual question for anyone of this mindset:
If walking down the street one day they, god forbid, see a child hit by a car, a woman assaulted by her partner or even an old dear struggling on some black ice would they ignore it simply because they weren't family?
Yes, exactly the same. As analogies go, that's up there with one of the worst I've seen on this forum.Usual question for anyone of this mindset:
If walking down the street one day they, god forbid, see a child hit by a car, a woman assaulted by her partner or even an old dear struggling on some black ice would they ignore it simply because they weren't family?
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