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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Today at 12:47 PM
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fernandopartridge said:
I am by no means defending Johnson and Hancock but they will just argue that they had to balance the other consequences of a stronger intervention. Although Britain's economic performance has lagged behind a lot of Europe anyway.
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Johnson who said ‘let the bodies pile high’?
 

Captain Dart

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  • Today at 12:53 PM
  • #61,777
Grendel said:
History may not look that favourably on them but equally I think there will be bewilderment about the whole lockdown strategy
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The whole episode was tyrannical combined with medical experimentation on the populus.
 
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Grendel

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  • Today at 1:00 PM
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Captain Dart said:
The whole episode was tyrannical combined with medical experimentation on the populus.
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I fully supported vaccinations that’s not my issue but I worked all through Covid as did all my employees as normal. The draconian measures must never happen again
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Today at 1:03 PM
  • #61,779
Captain Dart said:
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No words.
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It is one of the worst things I have read in a while.

Girl gets put in care. Gang raped, likely by migrants who were in the same shared accommodation. Mental health services basically abandon her. She tries to kill herself. Becomes paralysed. Still don't help her, but then they offer to euthanise her instead and sell her organs for millions.

It is an absolute disgrace. That BBC headline can get to fuck as well.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Today at 1:22 PM
  • #61,780
Captain Dart said:
The whole episode was tyrannical combined with medical experimentation on the populus.
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More conspiracist crank nonsense.
 
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PVA

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  • Today at 1:33 PM
  • #61,781
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
It is one of the worst things I have read in a while.

Girl gets put in care. Gang raped, likely by migrants who were in the same shared accommodation. Mental health services basically abandon her. She tries to kill herself. Becomes paralysed. Still don't help her, but then they offer to euthanise her instead and sell her organs for millions.

It is an absolute disgrace. That BBC headline can get to fuck as well.
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The whole thing is tragic beyond words.

But there is no evidence of her being gang raped my migrants.

The right seem to have made it up and are using the tragedy to further their agenda. Pretty sick.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Today at 1:46 PM
  • #61,782
PVA said:
The whole thing is tragic beyond words.

But there is no evidence of her being gang raped my migrants.

The right seem to have made it up and are using the tragedy to further their agenda. Pretty sick.
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This whole post is very low from you and you should probably consider deleting it. I will just leave it at that.
 
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PVA

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  • Today at 1:51 PM
  • #61,783
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
This whole post is very low from you and you should probably consider deleting it. I will just leave it at that.
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What the fuck, you're the one pushing a conspiracy theory with zero evidence to push your agenda against immigrants.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Today at 2:25 PM
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Captain Dart said:
The whole episode was tyrannical combined with medical experimentation on the populus.
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There is no definitive evidence it was caused by the vaccine, she has suffered with anaphylaxis but unclear whether it was to something in the vaccine or not. The woman says she "sometimes" needs to use a wheelchair, so the headline is highly misleading. Here she is stood up:

 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Today at 2:27 PM
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fernandopartridge said:
There is no definitive evidence it was caused by the vaccine, she has suffered with anaphylaxis but unclear whether it was to something in the vaccine or not. The woman says she "sometimes" needs to use a wheelchair, so the headline is highly misleading. Here she is stood up:

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What people like him don’t accept is that real COVID was the alternative to being vaccinated. Allowing that to ‘let rip’ would really have been a medical experiment.
 
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wingy

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  • Today at 2:27 PM
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Johnson who said ‘let the bodies pile high’?
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Any government stimulus just goes to the capitalist anyway.
 
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wingy

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  • 59 minutes ago
  • #61,787
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What people like him don’t accept is that real COVID was the alternative to being vaccinated.
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I'm convinced I had it in that summer before it became a thing but I willingly had the vaccine and it has as far as I can tell done me any harm,yet , benefit haven't really had a cold as yet?
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • 54 minutes ago
  • #61,788
wingy said:
I'm convinced I had it in that summer before it became a thing but I willingly had the vaccine and it has as far as I can tell done me any harm,yet , benefit haven't really had a cold as yet?
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There was a study of 20-30 million jabs that showed a statistically significant increase in the rate of cardiac incidents in those who had the jabs.

What it also showed was that increase was even larger in those who had actual COVID. If people want to argue that getting the real virus is better than getting an mRNA vaccine they can try, but it’s absurd.

It was one of the greatest modern scientific achievements of our time to produce effective vaccines so quickly.
 
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wingy

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  • 53 minutes ago
  • #61,789
India's finance minister sounds like she may suspend or not increase any duties on fuel,,has Rachel been paying attention?
 
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wingy

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  • 50 minutes ago
  • #61,790
Brighton Sky Blue said:
There was a study of 20-30 million jabs that showed a statistically significant increase in the rate of cardiac incidents in those who had the jabs.

What it also showed was that increase was even larger in those who had actual COVID. If people want to argue that getting the real virus is better than getting an mRNA vaccine they can try, but it’s absurd.

It was one of the greatest modern scientific achievements of our time to produce effective vaccines so quickly
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
.Boris Johnston is the ginua pig for that.
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Something went wrong with that.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • 49 minutes ago
  • #61,791
Brighton Sky Blue said:
There was a study of 20-30 million jabs that showed a statistically significant increase in the rate of cardiac incidents in those who had the jabs.
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My take on this is that a significant number of people had the virus with no symptoms. They said Covid affects the heart, theres every chance that it wasn't the vaccine directly but just a result of the virus. It was a superspreader.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • 47 minutes ago
  • #61,792
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
My take on this is that a significant number of people had the virus with no symptoms. They said Covid affects the heart, theres every chance that it wasn't the vaccine directly but just a result of the virus. It was a superspreader.
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Sure, but I think even if you say all those vaccine cases in the study did trigger heart problems, it remains that the virus itself triggered even more. Don’t need to give the conspiracists ammo on that one.
 
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wingy

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  • 45 minutes ago
  • #61,793
Brighton Sky Blue said:
There was a study of 20-30 million jabs that showed a statistically significant increase in the rate of cardiac incidents in those who had the jabs.

What it also showed was that increase was even larger in those who had actual COVID. If people want to argue that getting the real virus is better than getting an mRNA vaccine they can try, but it’s absurd.

It was one of the greatest modern scientific achievements of our time to produce effective vaccines so quickly.
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How did say Sweden fayre?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • 42 minutes ago
  • #61,794
The economic situation in the UK is going to be incredibly grim over the next few months or years.
The prospects for businesses from April are bad enough with the increase in business rates due to hit, this will be compounded by greater inflation pressures.
Consumer spending will take a hit from the same inflationary pressures, especially as working people will be given no support to deal with increased energy bills.
 

Grendel

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  • 29 minutes ago
  • #61,795
fernandopartridge said:
The economic situation in the UK is going to be incredibly grim over the next few months or years.
The prospects for businesses from April are bad enough with the increase in business rates due to hit, this will be compounded by greater inflation pressures.
Consumer spending will take a hit from the same inflationary pressures, especially as working people will be given no support to deal with increased energy bills.
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one of our customers said they are closing in two months as they can’t afford to renew their lease as the rates are doubling
 

chiefdave

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  • 19 minutes ago
  • #61,796
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
My take on this is that a significant number of people had the virus with no symptoms. They said Covid affects the heart, theres every chance that it wasn't the vaccine directly but just a result of the virus. It was a superspreader.
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This is the thing a surprisingly large number of people seem to have failed to grasp. You could be perfectly healthy, get covid with zero symptoms, and it still have a long term impact.

A pro hockey player on the team I support got covid with the mildest of symptoms, pre-vaccines, and ended up with a two year fitness battle that resulted in him having to retire.
 

Grendel

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  • 17 minutes ago
  • #61,797
chiefdave said:
This is the thing a surprisingly large number of people seem to have failed to grasp. You could be perfectly healthy, get covid with zero symptoms, and it still have a long term impact.

A pro hockey player on the team I support got covid with the mildest of symptoms, pre-vaccines, and ended up with a two year fitness battle that resulted in him having to retire.
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As with people who had side effects from vaccines it’s still a very small percentage
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • 10 minutes ago
  • #61,798
chiefdave said:
This is the thing a surprisingly large number of people seem to have failed to grasp. You could be perfectly healthy, get covid with zero symptoms, and it still have a long term impact.

A pro hockey player on the team I support got covid with the mildest of symptoms, pre-vaccines, and ended up with a two year fitness battle that resulted in him having to retire.
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What’s also worth remembering is the vaccines were being administered by humans having to give huge numbers a day. I’m sure some of the negative reactions could well come from how they were administered.
 

fernandopartridge

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Grendel said:
one of our customers said they are closing in two months as they can’t afford to renew their lease as the rates are doubling
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The core underlying issue is the successive governments have practically encouraged investment into property both domestic and commercial.

This in turn has driven up rents which in turn drives up RV.
 
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